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Big Brother: Revenge of the Sixth.

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STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

07:35 / 25.05.05

you lot were at least as entertaining as the show itself.

Yes, I don't watch the show, but I always read the thread. What have I doine with my life?

All Acting Regiment

09:06 / 25.05.05

Although it's a fairway back up the topic, I'd like to adress where someone asks me if I'm trivialising the concentration camps by comparing them to this. No, I'm not, if that wasn't obvious.

Ganesh

10:25 / 25.05.05

In that case yes, Big Brother is indeed similar to Nazi concentration camps - in the same way as me locking myself in the bathroom, putting a bag on my head and having a wank is similar to Abu Ghraib.

Spaniel

17:15 / 25.05.05

PRE-EMPTIVE RANT ALERT.

Just so everyone's clear.

(Newbies pay attention)

Unless Sun Tzu is a contestant this series, excessive and unexamined talk of game-plans will result in head-punches.

Tryphena Absent

17:44 / 25.05.05

excessive and unexamined talk of game-plans will result in head-punches.

Not just from Boboss. I too will head punch you. With nails. Metal ones.

Spaniel

17:51 / 25.05.05

That's right: Nina'll punch you too.

And I'm gonna put on my soveriegn ring.

Regrettable Juvenilia

17:57 / 25.05.05

I know that the Big Brother television program is not the same as a Nazi atrocity; you don't need to tell me that-

Legba, if this is true, then why did you mention your visit to the site of a former concentration camp in Poland? Are you unaware that in English the construction "having done x, I can no longer y" usually means that one's inability to do y is a result of having done x (having sprained my ankle, I can no longer dance the tango to championship standard)? Or were you using it in the archaic sense of "just before I did y, I did x" - eg "having eaten my dinner, I left the house" - which nevertheless tends to imply that action x had to be accomplished before y was possible?

Regrettable Juvenilia

17:58 / 25.05.05

Oh, and Boboss, don't worry, I won't talk about gameplans.

We all know the producers of the show write all the dialogue and carefully script what happens and who goes when, anyway.

Tryphena Absent

17:59 / 25.05.05

I'm not claiming any kind of insight other than the personal feeling that the whole setup of people being imprisoned and watched for fun is just wrong

1)they choose to go in
2)they can leave at anytime
3)they are perfectly aware that they are going to be filmed everywhere
4)they are not starved or tortured
5)the house is perfectly hygenic
6)Remember rich house-poor house, they had the opportunity to climb over the wall and they didn't. The had the opportunity, no one in Belsen had that.

so if you could now explain to me the correlation between an internment camp or prison of any kind and the Big Brother house I would be grateful because your comparison is not cutting it in any way at all Legba. If you don't like it that's fair but if you're going to rationalise it then it wouldn't be amiss to try to apply some rational thought to your rationalising.

Spaniel

18:03 / 25.05.05

We all know the producers of the show write all the dialogue and carefully script what happens and who goes when, anyway.

Thank you my very good fren, Flyboy.

Dear readers, Fly has just sketched another particularly annoying train of thought that will bring you nothing but gunishment [sic].

Scrubb is on a downward spiral

18:51 / 25.05.05

Moving on...is there a website up yet giving full glorious detail of our little captive piglets?

Ganesh

18:54 / 25.05.05

No, because the first programme hasn't aired yet. Friday 9pm, which is a pisser 'cause I'm off to see Theatre of Blood. Will have to video it and avoid this thread until I've absorbed every detail...

Mourne Kransky

20:13 / 25.05.05

From Le Guardian

Heat-seeking, duvet-penetrating cameras poised to record every fumble under the bedclothes, plus a glass-walled house whose lack of privacy is surpassed only by its claustrophobia, await the latest Big Brother contestants when the programme begins on Friday...

"There will be 13 housemates in the house [and] it will become apparent quite soon that the 13th housemate will be the unluckiest housemate ever," the show's executive producer, Sharon Powers, said during a tour of the house yesterday.

"You will have to wait and see how that will transpire. It will be exciting for us to watch, but not so exciting for the chosen housemate," she said.

The Puck

09:56 / 26.05.05

I refuse, im going to be using the words game-plan so often it may well become my catchphrase.

I find your censoring similer to the nazi propaganda machine used in the occupation of france during the second world war, a conceit that im not going to back up at all.

Ive been watching E4 and i am disgustingly excited about BB now, the producer have got a difficult task themselves this year, how are they going to get the contestants to kick-off in such a news inch grabbing way while simultainuosly making it seem that the last thing they want to happen?

Spaniel

12:30 / 26.05.05

You're right, Puck, I'm acting like a Nazi. Nazi's are everywhere these days thanks to Big Brother.

ONLY NICE THINGS

14:14 / 26.05.05

I am sure that the Dutch creators of the concept, whose nation was occupied and many of whose citizens were sent to the death camps (you may have heard of Ann Frank - she's a bit of a celeb over there) have nowhere near as intuitive an understanding of the sensitivities of this issue as a tourist doing a bit of sightseeing in Poland, Legba, but...

Although it's a fairway back up the topic, I'd like to adress where someone asks me if I'm trivialising the concentration camps by comparing them to this. No, I'm not, if that wasn't obvious.

Yes. You are. Which is obvious.

You probably didn't intend to, because you believed your point was wise and sensible, but honestly if your first thought here is that "people being imprisoned (in a house in Bow) and watched for fun" is somehow comparable with the death camps (where people were imprisoned and killed) then you probably need to cut down on the idiot pills.

Tryphena Absent

15:21 / 26.05.05

I think you'll find that the house is in Elstree and not Bow nowadays.

Five hundred points to Slytherin!

Mourne Kransky

19:38 / 26.05.05

Faction infighting in the Big Brother thread already and the show hasn't even begun. Yay, restores my faltering faith!

I'm firmly in the Legba-wtf? camp. I don't think I need to explain further, this being the Lith and all.

Eloi Tsabaoth

19:43 / 26.05.05

52 posts already and it hasn't even started yet. This year's Barbebrother thread promises to be the most exciting and entertaining ever!
The show will be the same desperate warmed-over bollocks, obviously.

Mourne Kransky

20:17 / 26.05.05

The show will always be but a shadow of the Barbelith commentary. Unless there are Barbelites in the House. But I think they call that The Newsnight Late Review.

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

22:54 / 26.05.05

I'm actually almost tempted to watch the thing this year. But I won't. That would only spoil the thread for me.

pear

09:13 / 27.05.05

In my bleary-eyed state this morning, the GMTV tv review chap mentioned two gay housemates, two bisexual housemates, one housemate who's had a boob job, and one housemate in a very high profile job

This may have all been imagined, but then I'd have to seriously start worrying about the content of my dreams.

Ganesh

09:48 / 27.05.05

Would these be Big Brother-issue "bisexuals"?

Whisky Priestess

10:13 / 27.05.05

What, "straight" people who are secretly hoping Big Brother will turn them gay, and then run screaming (but not in a good way)?

Ah, Spamboy. How we loved his frowny, defensive confusion.

Whisky Priestess

10:14 / 27.05.05

Or girls who have snogged their best friend while drunk?

pear

10:16 / 27.05.05

Ah, here we are... from ITV's website:

"Two of the contestants are gay, two bisexual and three were born outside the UK.

One had a "high profile occupation", another was in a parachute regiment, and one of the 13 used to be a professional windsurfer and basketball player. "

Ganesh

10:23 / 27.05.05

The Big Brother variety of bisexual is almost always female, and almost always reverts to exclusively heterosexual attraction within the house itself. Brett Anderson, basically, with added 'might snog girlfriend' titillation.

Alex's Grandma

11:21 / 27.05.05

Brett Anderson, basically

You'd 'do' him though, wouldn't you, if you had the chance ?

Ganesh

12:37 / 27.05.05

He's about as far from my 'type' as it's possible to get, I think.

DaveBCooper

12:39 / 27.05.05

Can I just assuage-before-the-event by reminding everyone that BB’s always dullish for the first few weeks, until they start culling the less memorable contestants (you know the ones, the ones who you actually forget are taking part in it). Then, when it’s down to about eight or fewer people, it usually gets more lively and interesting to watch.

But, in the spirit of pre-speculation/comment : another woman who’s had a boob job ? How representative is this of the nation ? Do they give out application forms with saline or something ?

Alex's Grandma

15:44 / 27.05.05

Dr G;

So the whole pale, wasted and interesting thing doesn't exactly float your boat ?

Whisky Priestess

17:12 / 27.05.05

Well, as types go, I quite fancied Dan off BB 2005, and being a gay man he's pretty definitively not my type.

However, Ganesh (and The World), with the greatest respect, unless you have seen Mr. Anderson and Suede strut their mutual stuff on stage from a distance of a few metres (same goes for Jarvis Cocker and Pulp), you cannot truly know the meaning of desire.

Tom Tit's Tot: A Girl!

19:15 / 27.05.05

Derek. Shit. Someone to hate already.

Tom Tit's Tot: A Girl!

19:19 / 27.05.05

Nix that. I forgot how the hateful scale is on BB.

1)Merely Obnoxious - Derek

2)Actively Irritating

3)Hateful

4)Rage-Inducing

5)Lesley

■

19:26 / 27.05.05

Ok, four pricks in the house so far. Maxwell appears to be an annoying prick (can you say Barley?), but it's a front that will get worn away pretty quickly, I think.
Jesus, though: Lesley?

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