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Videogames Thread 3 - Dark & Gritty Subtitle of Publisher Dullness

 
  

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invisible_al
13:53 / 25.04.05
Damm you Mr Slightly for tempting me back to UFO Enemy Unknown. Dammmm yoooou *shakes fist*.

...oh my god, they've got Little Big Adventure as well. Well that's my next month gone *ho Hum*. .
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
16:21 / 25.04.05
Ooh, UFO Enemy Unknown. A fucking classic if ever I saw one.

Anyone play that Tron game on the PC a couple of years back? Just picked it up for four quid in HMV. I remember the demo I had of the Light Cycles was pretty cool. And had the advantage of having better graphics than the movie it was based on.
 
 
doglikesparky
17:50 / 25.04.05
I played that Tron game to death a couple of years back and loved it.
For four quid you've definitely got a bargain there, Stoat, hope you enjoy yourself as much as I did.
I was just discussing that very game with a IRL friend the other day and we remembered that at the time the game developers were making quite a lot of noise about a sequel but since then I've heard nothing. Anybody shed any light on that?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
17:21 / 28.04.05
I'm thoroughly enjoying Tron so far... though Doom 3's still got me.
And I got Jade Empire on the XBox yesterday- so far it's looking kind of cool- it's Bioware's new RPG with real-time combat. I'm finding it all a little inconsequential (in the sense that yes, it's fun and pretty, but nothing really seems to MATTER so far) at the moment, but that was the case with the first couple of hours of KOTOR, and once that "clicked" you couldn't tear me away. (I feel a bit traitorous for using martial arts on pirates, of course... but it's all just pretend so it's okay).
 
 
Withiel: DALI'S ROTTWEILER
17:32 / 28.04.05
MDK!
I followed the link to abandonia from this thread, and found this absolute classic: everything about this game is perfect.
Sheer joycore, from the uberninja-ribbonsuit-sniperhat gameplay, to the levels that still manage to look fucking gorgeous eight years later, to the fact that you're a leather -clad death machine whose sidekick is a cute anthropomorphic dog. It's eaten about 4 hours of my life so far, and it's the best thing I've played since Earthworm Jim.

Whatever happened to Shiny, anyway?
And does anyone else rave about the original Max Payne?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
17:37 / 28.04.05
Max Payne is clearly one of the greatest games EVER. Max Payne 2 is better in every way. God, I love those games. And that theme tune... man, it's ace.
 
 
Withiel: DALI'S ROTTWEILER
17:53 / 28.04.05
Yes! Just the excuse I need to buy the sequel...you've just got to love a game where the main character hallucinates being in a game halfway through...
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
17:58 / 28.04.05
Actually, the dream sequences in the original, while they were very well done and very atmospheric, were the only time the game dropped out of playability heaven into frustration hell. Thankfully, this isn't a mistake they make in the sequel. But don't worry- there's just as much (if not more) weirdness- a lot more about the "Address Unknown" TV show, as well, which I was finding as fascinating as the actual plot I was involved in!

Hmm... maybe it's time for another run through them both... I can hear the music already...
 
 
Withiel: DALI'S ROTTWEILER
19:28 / 28.04.05
"Mirrors are more fun than television".
The dream sequences were indeed hellishly unplayable and tedious, but the graphic novel scene with the self-reflexivity made me laugh spasmodically for ages, as did the bit where Max autocritiques briefly.
/stops rotting thread
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
20:34 / 28.04.05
I wouldn't worry, withiel... I don't really see that discussing videogames in a thread about them constitutes threadrot!

Yes. BUY Max Payne 2. (Or steal it, or whatever). Seriously, if you like the first, you'll absolutely adore the second. It's as short as the first, but I don't really see that as a problem when the content is so good. I'd rather watch a short good movie than an epic shit one, if you know what I mean.
 
 
iamus
23:47 / 28.04.05
All this talk of abandonia has got me thinking.

Does anybody know where I can find Maniac Mansion? I need it to complete my ScummVM collection, but all the abandonware sites have Maniac Mansion Deluxe nowadays, which is a completely different kettle of fish (it's a fan remake, which doesn't run under ScummVM and I don't have a PC to play it normally). This is really getting on my tits because, try as I might, I just can't find it. I even managed to find the talkie version of Loom ferchrissakes, but no Maniac Mansion.

If somebody can tell me how to read my old ST version onto the mac, that'll do just as well.
 
 
Triplets
00:15 / 29.04.05
"I had a dream of my wife. She was dead. But it was alright".

Thubs up on the Address Unknown sideplot, one of the things that makes MP great is the level of enviromental "noise" that floats in and out of the foreground as you play. Hell, I'd be up for playing an AU point-and-click adventure.

Two-fisted gunplay, femme fatales and a happy ending that involves the death of everybody. What's not to like?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
16:42 / 29.04.05
And not forgetting the goon saying "for I am a rain dog too" in MP2... that was awesome.
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
00:02 / 02.05.05
That is indeed awesome. It's just a shame that the PS2 version of the game is such a pile of shit. Really bad camera, and framerate that chops like fuck. I loved the series, but wish I'd played MP2 on PC or something.

Speaking of retro, I too have a copy of Arcanum on my PC. I'm also turning through Zak McKracken & The Alien Mindbenders (thanks, DosBox), American McGee's Alice and Deus Ex. Ps2wise, I'm playing through the two Prince Of Persia games, Clock Tower 3 (which sucks) and Cold Fear (which is surprisingly atmospheric, but a bit dry.) Not liking Shinobi at all, and I'm glad that I only paid ten bucks for it.

I've yet to start my GTA 3, VC & SA marathon, and am a bit daunted by it.
 
 
iamus
00:15 / 02.05.05
Rothkoid, you might be better running Zak through Scumm VM.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
00:21 / 02.05.05
I can feel Jade Empire "clicking" now... I knew 'twas but a matter of time. Still not far through it, just looking for fights and going into the swamps and stuff, but I'm actually starting to give a shit about what happens. Niiiiice.
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
03:28 / 02.05.05
Dah. ScummVM is what I am indeed using for Zak. I'm using DosBox for shit like Mean Streets. Wow, it's just like digitised music through a PC speaker!

Erm.
 
 
Baz Auckland
00:21 / 03.05.05
I am loving Abandonia. I spent the weekend replaying Hero Quest (before accidentaly deleting it. Oops.), and am now enjoying Transport Tycoon, which I think I'll always love just for the eye-pleasing graphics...
 
 
iamus
00:41 / 03.05.05
Okaaaaaaaay.

Now I've found the original Maniac Mansion in both German and Italian but not in English.

-sobs-

Anybody?
 
 
iamus
01:05 / 03.05.05
More Zelda anyone?
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
03:20 / 03.05.05
Download the remake of MM here. It's pretty neat. I'm fairly sure that people voluntarily pulled the original versions after this one became available...
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
03:21 / 03.05.05
You can get a C64 version here.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
11:36 / 03.05.05
Hey, kids! Do you like games created using the Source engine? Do you like the labyrinthine, layered, multi-option and fatally bug-ridden games of the now-defunct Troika development studio? Then why not try Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines?

I gave up on Arcanum, primarily because the Fallout-style control system made it so increddibly slow to achieve anything as to make the whole thing unplayable, combined with the knowledge that, as has been mentioned before, you're basically playing D&D, which made combat incredibly repetitive. VTM:B seemed am interesting combo of the open-ended, quest-based play of the aforementioned and some Half Lifey goodness.

It's an interesting game, although it crashes ever 20 minutes or so, which is a little wearing. _Insanely_ ambitious - it seeks to be a full-on RPG, with quests, experience points and so on, and an FPS, _and_ a third-person platformer.Pretty much inevitably, it fails. I'm not that far in, but the combat system is already showing itself, although far more interactive than Fallout or Arcanum, unwieldy and arbitrary - ultimately, you're reduced to button-mashing while trying to keep your opponent in your field of vision. I'm not sure how much freedom the game ultimately gives you, either - it looks like you can suceed or fail at quests in various different ways, but once you get to a certain waypoint you can close off a section and be given an entrance to another section...

It looks quite fabby, though- not a patch on Half Life 2 for background prettiness, and the animations and character models are significantly less good (clipping is also a problem - extremities stick through doors and walls with far too much regularity), but the facial modelling during the many and involved conversations are really very impressive - in terms of interacting with synthetic humans, this is as impressive as HL2, although the added versatility does mean less focus on individual lines and a far less cinematic feel. It's hella goth, too. Sometimes that works, sometimes you want to clean the streets of every bit of stupid hair going.

Plus, I have beaten somebody to death with a severed arm. You can't fight that feeling.
 
 
nedrichards is confused
12:06 / 03.05.05
Shiny now make the Matrix games. Yes, I'm sorry too.
 
 
admiral sausage
17:49 / 03.05.05
Havent tried it yet, will in a miniute, cant contain my excitement.

"As visually striking today as it was upon release in 1991, Delphine's Another World is now freely available thanks to the generosity of original creator Eric Chahi and GBA programmer Cyril Cogordan. The legally downloadble ROM is the latest build of a GBA conversion that features the full game with soundtrack, menus and credits.

Having originally rejected the title, Virgin Games later distributed Another World (known in North America as Out Of This World) across a variety of console formats including Super Nintendo and Megadrive. A sequel entitled Heart Of The Alien was developed by Interplay in 1994 exclusively for MegaCD, but for most the game's spiritual successor remains Delphine's own Flashback, released for Amiga in 1992.

Either a GBA emulator or writeable flash cart is required to run the conversion, the former being readily available from sites such as Zophar's Domain. The game itself can be downloaded here."

Game: http: //www.foxysofts.com/index.php?l=content/gba/anworld.inc

Emulator (for Mac): http://www.pure-mac.com/emu.html
 
 
admiral sausage
17:59 / 03.05.05
Damnit... "error occuring while expanding the file another world" any one else getting this ?
 
 
Tezcatlipoca
18:56 / 03.05.05
Admiral, I can sort you out with a copy of Another World for Amiga, along with an Amiga emulator and the necessary kickstart ROMS, if you like. I can't promise the graphics will realy be any prettier than the version released on the early consoles, but at least it works.

And on a more up to date front, I've recently dusted off Sim City 3000, which is great fun...

...even though the sims who occupy Tezville are whinging, ungrateful, over-privileged little bastards. They get massive funding to essential services, and still complain about traffic density and water pollution. Bah! I've a good mind to summon a meteor shower on them.
 
 
admiral sausage
20:22 / 03.05.05
Tezcatlipoca, That would be even better, Thanks !
 
 
The Strobe
18:34 / 04.05.05
For all you Max Payne fans: first clips/shots of Remedy's latest game, the beautiful-looking Alan Wake.

It is, in short, Twin Peaks: The Game. For serious.
 
 
Triplets
19:20 / 04.05.05
Thubs up on the Address Unknown sideplot, one of the things that makes MP great is the level of enviromental "noise" that floats in and out of the foreground as you play. Hell, I'd be up for playing an AU point-and-click adventure.

...

It is, in short, Twin Peaks: The Game. For serious.

I think I'm going to pop like a toad.
 
 
The Strobe
21:34 / 04.05.05
It's not quite Address Unknown - it has the rural flavour of Twin Peaks, but it's also described as a psychological action adventure so it may be less violent than Max Payne but about as involved, narratively speaking. But yeah, yum.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
23:01 / 04.05.05
Finished Phantom Brave's main story, now just power levelling so that I can beat the less forgiving hidden bosses. Same as with Disgaea, I'm surprised at just how addictive seeing how stupidly huge you can get the stats is. Found out a couple of days back that the PAL version of La Pucelle Tactics has a few additions over the US and original JPN editions which lets you go through its story as many times as you want, only keeping your characters and items at the same levels as they were when you finished it the last time, Disgaea-style, so that's now an absolute definite. When I finally tire of PB, natch.

Just got myself the Xbox version of Morrowind GOTY, now that it's peanuts. Had the PC game since release, never been able to do much in it because my machine can't handle the populated areas at anything more than five frames a second. Love the freedom, hate the way that you're bombarded with information from the moment you set foot in the world. Lack of structure can be a good thing, but it's far better if you don't immediately add to the player's overwhelming sense of confusion by throwing page upon page of backstory at them. It's like they've overcompensated for the lack of structure in the gameplay by going mental with the structure of the narrative.

Also grabbed a second hand copy of Xbox Moto GP2, which is supposed to be my replacement for Halo 2, now I'm starting to tire of that again. Completely alien sense of control, given that every other motorbike game ever has featured vehicles which feel just like cars. Keeps you hooked by promising that there's almost infinite room for personal improvement. Love it - will be quite a while before I really feel confident enough to take it online, mind. What I really wanted was Amped 2, given how much I still get from the first game (even if, once again, I'm stuck in it), but it's currently impossible to find.
 
 
hanabius yamamura
19:33 / 05.05.05
... currently in the formative levels of doom 3 on xbox which is very groovy loving the atmosphere it creates with a 'total-recall / welcome-to-the-offworld-colonies / soft-american-voiceover' kinda vibe ... that, and the fabulous shotgun ... mmmmmmmmm, take a bite a' peach - apologies to any fellow spaced fans

... one tiny quibble is the default positions of the PDA button, ie black button, and the flashlight button, ie white button ... so many times I've frantically accessed the PDA when I'm actually trying to flash the torch in to some dark creepy corner ... I know I could change them round but white just seems right for a flashlight ... ... ...

... on the subject of the PDA, fabulous little touches eg the voicework on the audio logs and the nice 'welcome to mars ... ' video bits sweeeeet

... also in the formative stage of midnight club 3 ... seriously good fun and nice and faaaaaaaaassssssssst ... not quite at Burnout 3 levels but nice and tasty just the same with the added bonus of whzzing through some lovely rain-streaked busy city streets ... ... ... and it has bullet-time

... and you can pimp your motors to a ridiculous neon-laden green-flamed spoiler-filled madness

h x
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
19:51 / 05.05.05
hanabius... just wait'll you got the chainsaw. It rules. Its only problem is that it's perhaps a little TOO powerful, and will kill pretty much anything... but my God it's ace.
 
 
hanabius yamamura
21:02 / 05.05.05
... cue duff-man type voice ... oooooooooooooo, yyyyeeeeaaaahhh - hanabius NEEEEEEEEEEEEDS a chainsaw - oooooooooooooo, yyyyeeeeaaaahhh
 
  

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