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Morrison's Doom Patrol in Trade Paperbacks

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08:16 / 01.02.05

Billr, I read somewhere that the third TPB should be out during next spring.

12:53 / 01.02.05

I'm so happy that they're finally giving DOOM PATROL a real set of reprints (and so sad that FLEX MENTALLO is likely to not get the same).

I have never understood why INVISIBLES got reprinted so quickly while DOOM PATROL sat in limbo (unless it had to do solely with Charles Atlas' lawsuit, it makes no sense). INVISIBLES, to me, read as a direct Gen-Xing (read: Burning Manization) of the weird humanism and references to historical oddities that made DOOM PATROL what it was. (some INV characters read as rewrites of sideline characters in DP; others read as self-insertion). DP was less "cool," less action/conspiracy/thriller-based, but had characters that were a lot more memorable and well-written, and commented more on its own medium. And fifteen years later, it's nowhere near as dated as INVISIBLES.

I just liked it and ANIMAL MAN a lot more; they read as Morrison not worrying about sales or attempting to cash in on a subculture.

The Natural Way

16:26 / 01.02.05

What? You think the Invisibles, possibly Morrison's most personal and heavily invested work to date, was about sales and cashing in? The only time Grant made a fuss about sales was when he saw the book tanking at the end of vol 1. And, anyway, the HOLLYWOOD! GUNS! SEX! stuff fed directly into the themes of volume 2 - in fact, that stuff, in many ways, was the heart of the matter.

Don't care what you think of the book (it has its limitations, sure), but that's just plain wrong, wrong, wrong.

15:20 / 21.03.05

from Vertigo discussion at WizardWorld LA:

>> There will be more Grant Morrison Doom Patrol trades if the sales are solid on the first two volumes.

WHAT?!?! Can't they tell by NOW?? Those books have been out for a good long while.

14:35 / 23.03.05

I think that means that sales so far on the Doom Patrol volumes haven't been good enough.

--Cliffy

20:48 / 23.03.05

From the Pulse:

DOOM PATROL - Sales warranting, Vertigo will release future trades of Grant Morrison's run, although Wayne quickly kicked some sand over FLEX MENTALLO having any part of those collections.

15:13 / 12.04.05

I'm happy these books are finally being released, but why is Brian Bolland doing the covers? Don't get me wrong, the man is obviously a great artist, but at least to me, it's just not Morrison's Doom Patrol if it doesn't have a gloriously whacked-out Simon Bisley cover.

The Biz covers are what drew me to Doom Patrol, as a dumb 14 year-old kid in late '89. I always hoped for the day Morrison and Bisley would collaborate on a Doom Patrol graphic novel with full-on painted art from the Biz (his pencil work has never done anything for me), but the closest we got was when Bisley drew a one-page illustration in DP #50. That was probably my favorite single issue of the series, with all sorts of madcap Legion of Dada action and a bonus section of various artists providing details from "Doom Patrol adventures that never happened," or something like that.

That being said, Bolland's covers are great, but compare them to Bisley's cover for the original "Crawling from the Wreckage" trade. I think it's more in-line with Morrison's vision for the series. In fact, I recall Morrison once gushing how Bisley could get one of his scripts and come up with a cover illustration that summed up the entire issue exactly.

I know Morrison doesn't like to revisit the past, but I wonder what the chances would be for him and the Biz to actually do a DP one-shot someday? Probably very slim.

Elijah, Freelance Rabbi

03:47 / 13.04.05

I THINK I met Rachel Pollack when i was a youngen. My mom went to highschool with a woman who became a literary agent and Pollack was one of her clients.

For some reason I could SWEAR Pollack is a man using a pen name.

Dan Fish - @Fish1k

06:22 / 13.04.05

Rachel is transgendered (I hope that's the right term), there's an interview here: http://www.gendertalk.com/real/450/gt452.shtml

"The world of science fiction writing, she says, is more accepting of gender diversity than others. She should know. She came out as transgender in 1971, and has won many accolades for her writing since then. Author of 27 books, Rachel Pollack joins us to talk about her life, activism, writing and her love for the Tarot. Her most recent novel, "A Secret Woman," features a transsexual detective, and her new book "The Kabbalah Tree" will be released in June.

Among Rachel's books:

* "Unquenchable Fire" (1988) Winner, Arthur C. Clarke Award ("best feminist novel of the decade" - The New York Review of Science Fiction)
* "Temporary Agency" (1994) Nominated for the Nebula Award, the James T. Tiptree Award, and the Mythopoeic Award
* "Godmother Night" (1996) Winner of the 1997 World Fantasy Award
* "A Secret Woman" (2002) Rachel's first mystery novel
* "The Forest of Souls: A Walk in the Tarot" (new)

For more information:

* Be sure to read "Fake Dream" and the new "Walking With Wonder" at www.rachelpollack.com
"

I could never get on with her writing to be honest, the weirdness seemed to be several notches too high, with not enough emotion to ground it in reality.

06:17 / 08.07.05

No news on a third volume ?

20:16 / 08.07.05

I don't believe so, no.

Which, indeed, sucks.

06:46 / 12.07.05

hello

i am contemplating buying the doom patrol, but seeing as the individual issues are both hard and tedious to find could anyone let me know if the following are featured in the two graphic novels that have been released?:

"...it really is bizarre. Austin Spare, Chaos Theory, Burroughsian cut-ups, the church of the SubGenius, Morrisey, Gnostic archons, the Decreator, Dada villians, bizarre cults, shadows that kill their owners, Crossing the Abyss, sentinet transvestite streets, strange aliens involved in idiotic wars, a bad-ass looking mummified hermaphrodite, an entire issue of alchemical imagery, the end of the world... This series had it all!"

someone here said that the first novel, "crawling through the wreckage" was re-released in 2004. neither amazon or chapters in north america seem to really have a fix on this re-release (they are offered but it doesnt seem to be a prominent item - if that makes sense). did it actually see the light of day? i really liked "the invisibles" and i am interested in that type of subject matter (magick etc). id rather not spend my money on the two "doom patrol" graphic novels if they are just twisted versions of superhero stories that dont feature any of the above topics... please help if you can.

i wonder if it will ever be possible to obtain morrison's entire run of "the doom patrol?"

what's up with his site anyway? he needs someone to update that thing.

08:50 / 12.07.05

Buy as much of the Doom Patrol as you can find. It's infinitely better than the Invisibles, in my opinion, and is Morrison at the top of his game. It's not as self-conscious as Invisibles and better for it. It's not "twisted superhero stories".

In the first couple of trades you have: a former race car driver whose brain has been salvaged from a crash and placed in an ugly metal robot body tries to come to terms with his predicament. He makes freinds with a girl with over 70 multiple personalities, each with a superhuman ability. They team up with a mummified psychic hermaphrodite and face perils such as the Brotherhood of Dada, who have absorbed Paris into a haunted painting that must be entered to save the city. What's not to like?

It's more playful and creative than the Invisibles, and the magic stuff is a lot less overt, but in a way I'd say it's handled better because its less heavy handed.

I'm Rick Jones, bitch

10:52 / 12.07.05

I'd say it's more that Grant had love for the characters in DP before he started loving himself too much (Invisi).

Ragged Robin is supposed to be Crazy Jane in a different hypercontext blah blah blah but really, none of the characters are as fun, loveable or heartbreaking.

Dan Fish - @Fish1k

08:43 / 18.07.05

Good News ladeez&gentz!

From the latest DC solicits:

DOOM PATROL VOL. 3: DOWN PARADISE WAY TP

Written by Grant Morrison, art by Richard Case, Kim DeMulder, Kelley Jones and others, cover by Brian Bolland.

The World's Strangest Heroes continue their adventures in this third volume collecting Grant Morrison's career-launching run on Doom Patrol. Reprinting issues #35-41 of the series,Down paradise Way features the debut of Danny the Street, the first appearance of Flex Mentallo, and, through it all, an incredible saga of cosmic war and super-evolving consciousness!

192 pages, $19.99, in stores on Oct. 12.

12:38 / 18.07.05

Crikey!

13:43 / 18.07.05

so is there any noise about this on the dc/vertigo boards or owt? this is, well, FLEX innit?

13:52 / 18.07.05

Awe. Some. Was worried this wasn't going to happen.

15:23 / 18.07.05

WAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

15:52 / 18.07.05

Woohoo! And Flex is in it? Neato.

16:43 / 18.07.05

My pocketbook!!!!!!!

18:36 / 18.07.05

No Flex??? You mean "no, you ain't going to get the supreme form of meta-narrative for the next generation"???

Bugger this. I want a better world.

20:44 / 18.07.05

Who's the weird spider-bloke with whatsername?

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

21:21 / 18.07.05

Can't remember the issue numbers, but will this one have the Beard Hunter in it?

Horatio Hellpop

22:32 / 18.07.05

the beard hunter is from 45 and the main flex story is from 42-44.

22:45 / 18.07.05

????

The World's Strangest Heroes continue their adventures in this third volume collecting Grant Morrison's career-launching run on Doom Patrol. Reprinting issues #35-41 of the series,Down paradise Way features the debut of Danny the Street, the first appearance of Flex Mentallo, and, through it all, an incredible saga of cosmic war and super-evolving consciousness!

He is in it.

22:56 / 18.07.05

Okay, those of you who've got the singles... how long was Grant's run, and how many more trades do you think it'll encompass?

22:57 / 18.07.05

Ahhh, this is a good thing. I know a number of people who have a DP-shaped hole in their lives, and no matter how much I love these people there is NO WAY I'm letting them get their unclean fingers on my issues.

23:44 / 18.07.05

Grant's Run started with issue 19 and ended around 62 or 63. I would say it would go for at least three or four more Trades. Not including the Flex Mentallo mini.

07:15 / 19.07.05

I hope it completes the series to be honest, there wasn't that many after Grant left was there? Even if there was, I liked them.

Dan Fish - @Fish1k

09:04 / 19.07.05

There were about 20 or more issues after GM by Rachel Pollack, I can't see them being much in demand to be honest.

ONLY NICE THINGS

09:05 / 19.07.05

Rachel Pollack's much-maligned run went from 64 to... hmmm. About 81, I think.

Dan Fish - @Fish1k

09:08 / 19.07.05

Sorry, that was repetitive use of the words "to be honest" wasn't it?

I expect DC will start straight on the Byrne stuff after GM collections are finished. There may have been a few nice moments in the intervening issues, but not enough to warrant the more permanent format. I bet there are legions of Byrne fans that would be willing to pay for trades too.

12:47 / 19.07.05

does this mean they got around the legal problems with Flex and the Charles Atlas estate? Not only is Flex in it but they are blatantly mentioning him in the solicits.

12:52 / 19.07.05

I seriously doubt we will see a flex mentallo trade under Paul Levitz's tenure...

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