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We3 #1

 
  

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Yotsuba & Benjamin!
17:27 / 16.08.04
You will flat out blow up.

It's out on the twentyfif.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
18:07 / 16.08.04
Okay, after reading those five pages about twelve times and realizing that the famed two page megabomb spread is undoubtedly page 6 & 7, anyone ready call "Complete And Total Comics Storytelling Revolution" on this one?

It's very much like Manga with a T-Square, and that seems to make all the difference. As opposed to the jagged panel shapes (if there even are panel shapes) that tend to be the hallmark of contemporary Manga, framing this kind of storytelling in the rigid panel layouts that Quitely is so expert at rendering completely sells the sensation of each panel being a strobe flash of detail, the story telling equivalent of those multi camera photo montages where several pictures are taped together to form a jagged and loose larger picture. The larger picture in this case being the narrative itself.

Also, the "!" dialogue baloons are a pretty brilliant touch. When you've got someone like Quitely on the decks, so adept at crafting a series of completely static images that create such vivid motion when stapled together by your eye, I don't know of too many other artists that have completely mastered in every way, what make comics work as comics. Thus such abstract word balloons are just neon signs already broadcasting the obvious.

Back in the Kirby days, comic book panels had their own tropes, the kind of characteristics that made it easy for someone like Lichtenstein to ape them and be confident that everyone was in on the joke. Same goes for an M.F. Doom cover. You've got the small rectangle of narration in the upper left hand corner, the dialogue balloon on the right, and your protagonist under the narration. It's almost algebraic.

The ubiquity of those old panels represented comics storytelling at its most basic. It seems to me that We3, at least from a storytelling, design standpoint, and at least from the first five (and presumably 7) pages, is cobbling together everything that comics has evolved through since them and creating a new, equally ubiquitous, distillation of the comics language.

Truly, in its basic essence, a Western Manga. A storytelling that can be understood and appreciated by everyone, and whose emotional resonance is completely unrestricted by any kind of continuity or even dialogue.

I'm sure there are like a zillion examples of this already, from the silent issues of G.I. Joe to, I dunno, Peter Kuper? But this somehow strikes me as something completely new.

Maybe I'm just way too into the work of Mr. Quitely.

Anyway. Is it August 25th yet?
 
 
Sekhmet
18:45 / 16.08.04
My most pressing question: ARE THE ANIMALS GOING TO TALK?

I can't decide how I want that answered, either.

I'm far too excited about this project. Anything short of perfection is going to crush me. I need to get out more.
 
 
Michelle Gale
18:48 / 16.08.04
HARDSELL

It does look mighty purdy though, Quitely just has this mass thing going off all the stuff feels there.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
18:55 / 16.08.04
That's so exactly it. The quantifiable mass of his drawings is what really sends this shit into the stratosphere. The act of taking the storytelling techniques that are usually inhabited by the most wispy and kinetic drawings in the artform and locking it down with his art is what I was getting at. The fact that his panels are so weighted and yet when put together, tell a story so fluidly.
 
 
FinderWolf
19:01 / 16.08.04
YAY!!!! So happy to see this thread, cause that means it's coming soon.

>> But now, those three animals have seized the chance to make a last, desperate run for 'Home'.

How much you wanna bet that "HOME" is something very much other than what our cuddly friends think it will be?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
19:03 / 16.08.04
The twenty-fifth? BUT THAT'S FUCKING AGES!!!!!!!!!

Wonder if work'd notice if I just slept for a week...

I just know this is gonna be heartbreaking. For some reason, I always find George more emotionally effective when dealing with animals- the Foxy bit at the end of Animal Man, Tony in The Filth, Chubby in Seaguy... if all the main characters are animals, what chance have I of keeping dry eyes throughout?

None. That's what chance. None.

My only misgiving about the Western Manga idea... Western comics just ain't long enough to portray stuff as visually as a big thick Japanese comic can... or so I think right now. Let's see 'em prove me wrong. I hope they do. It'd be cool.
 
 
Triplets
19:03 / 16.08.04
The animals can talk. The fact that cat, rabbit and dog vocal chords aren't made for human speech means that their dialogue is going to be pumped out of exo-shell mounted speakers. Kind of like your pet dog speaking to you through your kitchen radio.

In the preview we've seen the dog, Bandit?, speaks to the Secretary of Defence in txt spk, "I M GOOD, MR WASH-ING-TON, R U GUD 2?".

Inter-squad communication will be acheived in the same way probably. 'Cept the critters will probably have internal, cochlear stimulating implants or direct inner-ear-2-inner-ear conferencing. Radiotelepathy.

I realise the above comment was a joke but I had a train of thought I need to run. It will be on time, dammit!
 
 
Triplets
19:05 / 16.08.04
Also, Dr. Birdie? Your text flows like liquid sexual verb water. Can you do the reviews/summary topics for each issue as they come out?
 
 
Triplets
19:06 / 16.08.04
And, Stoatie? Try not to read the last issue on the fucking bus. Stiff upper lip, wot?
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
19:16 / 16.08.04
I don't see any problem with that, Trips.
 
 
captainkyle
01:30 / 17.08.04
the first issue is great! they had a full b&w copy at the dc comics booth at the sdcc. i grabbed it first thing and read it, and loved it. it certainly does play around with panels, as i remember one page near the end is composed of what seemed like twenty small rectangular panels. my memory of the exact layout is rusty, since i was being jostled by fellow attendees and i was itching to get to the mattel booth to put my name in for she-ra and other merchandise crap. but i was glad i read it, since when i came back later the we3 preview was nowhere in sight.

i can honestly say it wonderful, emotional (one character has a choice to make), and i can see how this is on track to make us all sob and cry, as grant morrison predicted. i can't wait to see it in color!
 
 
CameronStewart
04:26 / 17.08.04
I can't tell you how long I've had those pages from the link above on my hard drive, and how much I've been itching to share them with everyone. I was a good boy though and kept them to myself. Glad my torture is finally over!

The first issue is brilliant, maybe even Quitely's best work ever. I weep with jealousy and awe.
 
 
LDones
06:15 / 17.08.04
Our man Quite Vincely makes my brain itch with his pretty lines and fine designs. Only he would give such a large man such tiny shorts. And I love him for it.
 
 
Optimistic
10:45 / 17.08.04
But how long is each issue?

Please, please, please tell me they're 32 pages each like Seaguy...
 
 
bigsunnydavros
14:45 / 17.08.04
Yeah, I think all of Morrison's upcoming mini-series are supposed to be 32-pages long. Makes for a decent trade size and such.

This preview rocks me, but then, I knew it would. Franky Q is the man. He's such a master of, well, everything!
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
16:20 / 17.08.04
I weep with jealousy and awe.

Fear not, Mr Stewart. We3 shall not diminish our (well, my, anyway. I'm just assuming I speak for everyone else) desire for more Seaguy.
 
 
FinderWolf
17:22 / 17.08.04
Well said, Stoatie. Hear hear.
 
 
luke hugh
18:21 / 17.08.04
ahhh look out there behind you. Oh anyway that is the best drawn comic I've seen in a long time. I'm shocked how high people are setting the comics standard these days. Well I always get giddy when grant morrison teams up with other super human talants.
 
 
Ben Danes
04:26 / 18.08.04
Wow. Great stuff.

Hopefully they print the trade manga size as well. This would look nice next to my Lone Wolf and Cub on the shelves.
 
 
Billuccho!
16:59 / 23.08.04
The Fourth Rail! Reviews! Here and here.

It sounds very nice. Certainly, if it confuses Lander it *must* be good! Aye?
 
 
miss wonderstarr
17:54 / 23.08.04
I have been "waiting for the trade" throughout my last 5 years of buying comics, but this and Seven Soldiers might break my habit.

As an example of my moral strength, I am "waiting for the trade" of Seaguy, which should be out in Jan 05. I really hope none of these GM projects go the way of Flex Mentallo, ie. anyone who didn't grab them month by month is stymied.

Reading a story episodically has its own excitement and involvement, but as I'm still in the process of storing all my thousands of Vertigo monthlies, and find it really difficult to re-read a story when the issues are all bagged in boxes, I am tempted to suggest that maybe all decent comic books should only be released as graphic novels, rather than as 3-part books that cost more put together, are more difficult to store and will come out as a collected paperback within 6 months.

Perhaps I should have made this a new thread.
 
 
alexsheers
11:53 / 24.08.04
I have to agree with you [and diverge from the point, albeit briefly] on the TPB score - I've got full runs of most of the big British creator-related Vertigo runs from the '90s, but have recently been justifying buying the trades just for ease of access.

Back to the thread, however, the Morrison/Quitely All-Stars are my dream team when it comes to comics - they just work really well together. I'm glad to hear that they're experimenting with the comic storytelling format and expanding, to some extent, on their work in the New X-Men 'Nuff Said psychic rescue issue, which was masterful.

My favourite's still Earth 2, although that may change come Thursday...
 
 
illmatic
13:40 / 24.08.04
The Stoat is right, Cameron, we still want Seaguy. Chubby will not go unavenged!

When does this ship?
 
 
miss wonderstarr
14:15 / 24.08.04
Why does Morrison call Quitely "Vince", by the way?
 
 
_Boboss
14:21 / 24.08.04
quite frankly, it's because that's his real name. don't remember the surname at the mo but a few seconds of internetage would reveal it i'm sure.
 
 
Triplets
22:50 / 24.08.04
I went round to Frank's last night and after beating him unconscious with an oyster fork and helping myself to a few copies of Flex Mentallo his passport graciously revealed his name was Vince Deighan.
 
 
_Boboss
14:28 / 25.08.04
dear americans

did promethea come out today like they said it would? i think i will save we3 til last but being able to choose is going to kick my weekend right into the premiership.

lots of love

gambers
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
14:51 / 25.08.04
Dear Neil,

Yes.

Love,
America.

P.S. Make sure that you read We3 while sitting on a toilet bowl, TAKING CARE THAT ANY UNDERGARMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN REMOVED. There are several double page spreads specifically designed to wrest control of your bowels from your already frazzled nervous system.
 
 
Simplist
21:30 / 25.08.04
B-b-brilliant. Can't say much more than that at present.
 
 
Mr Tricks
22:00 / 25.08.04
Man.. what a dense book... I thought it was over after that "1st" mission only to find that was only a 1st chapter....

que Dialogue!!!
 
 
Alex's Grandma
22:11 / 25.08.04
Ok, it's just after midnight, and I'm slightly concerned - should a grown( ish ) man really be looking forward to this so much ?

I mean I've got a vague kind of date thing later on in the evening, and I'm not honestly sure that's the major priority...
 
 
Triplets
23:52 / 25.08.04
As long as you don't try to hack into her dog using your mobiles bluetooth you should be alright.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
01:33 / 26.08.04
"Why did you text message me, '1 Know 0'? Am I '1'?"
 
 
wicker woman
07:14 / 26.08.04
Just absolutely beautiful. Hats (and more) off to Mr. Quitely for what may very well be the most stunning splash pages ever. I would pay good money to see what went through his head when Grant sent him the script for the pages divided into about 20 panels apiece, though. Heh.

The cat provides the saddest moment in the issue. "We3 no home now."

Since nearly everyone else is diverging, I think I will too for a second. This issue reminded me a little of one of my favorite bits during Morrison's run on NXM; specifically, the stupid 'silent issue' gimmick Marvel ran through all their titles. Coincidentally enough, I think that particular issue was drawn by Quitely as well.

Anyway, I just got a kick out of how the entire issue was supposed to be completely without speech, and Grant went ahead and had some at the end of the issue anyway. Nose-thumbing as an Olympic sport.
 
  

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