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For exampele, I did not call you a racist

Indeed not. Please indicate where exactly I said that you did. I suggested that this conversation would be better continued in the "racism" thread, which is increasingly inaptly titled, because not actually about racism. If you can point to a place where I say that you have called me a racist, do so. If not, explain why it is important to make clear that you did not call me a racist. You also did not, to my knowledge, call me a sexist or an Islamophobe, you know?

Also, how is your quoting of a post of mine in another thread two days ago "on-topic" to this thread?

It is not. It is relevant to your threadrot of this topic. It is relevant, specifically, to the part where in that thread you subject people to a series of posts that are at best opaque and at worst abusive, repeatedly claiming the right to behave as if you have been called a racist and a fascist (neither of which was the case, which reading issue redtara seems to have problems with there as well), which is somewhat ironic given your demand above. Then the part where you undertake to go away and have a think before posting any more about this question of the treatment of race. Then the part where you pop up here and start, rather wonderfully, trying to have a conversation about the possible xenophobic content of my posts, which is both offtopic and I would say given the broader context unwise.

There are other issues - I don't think your distinction of joking/not joking is useful or relevant in this context or in the general discussion of treatment of race on Barbelith. Your post invented entities - such as the "UK clique" - just as your post this time around has invented the entity of a suggestion by me that you had called me a racist. However, I think these issues are comparatively minor in the face of the main issue, which is that I don't think your conflict resolution efforts in the Policy right now are pitched at the right level, for Barbelith or for yourself.

Back. On. Topic.

We might compare Flyboy's Do Dirt post, or Autopilot Disengaged's plugging of It Came From the Sea. These essentially contain flyers or the details one might find on flyers. On the other hand, these are nights that a member of Barbelith has put on hirself, and I think there's a big difference between that and a link to another website containing information on a gig played by somebody who somebody who appears not to read Barbelith - pace redtara, Caleigh's position - that it is a "tool for activation" - follows the standard Grant-Morrrison's-Disapppointmentometer pattern.

I'd suggest that entry-level for entries in the Gathering should be:

a) that the title, summary or first post includes the name of the event or the purpose of the gathering (gig, club night, pub meet, neo-pagan ritual), the timescale of the event (with clock and calendar represented).

b) That if the Barbelith connection is not clear (e.g. it is a member's band or a gathering of members), some explanation of why it is being posted is given. This could be as basic as "this looks interesting. I am going on Wednesday. Anyone fancy coming along?", or as complex as "When I was 15, Roxette saved my life.... (3000 words later) anyone want to come?".

I don't think this is unreasonable. If somebody does not manage this, then they are asked to provide more detail. If they cannot manage that, the thread is locked, perhaps, unless some other kind person takes on those responsibilities.

To be honest, knowing Barbelith better than its wife ever will, I doubt that gentle correction would have been much more use in the case of Caleigh, but that's academic now and we can file under "lessons learned".

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