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Wow - is this still Barbelith etiquette 101.

This thread is yacky! I think that your coming off as a nasty clique of London plastics. There I've said it. This is the umpteenth thread were I have found one person defending themselves (resonably trying to answer critisims in the spirit of open discussion)from personal attacks and behavior far worse than the quite innocuous comment or habbit that has swept up the shit storm.

Justification of overreaction by spinning weight of offence. It's the zeitgeist kids.

Do I have to fuck off now too? You are being sooo rude over nothing. I think there is an obsession with petty deviations from complex subtle conventions that is more obstructive and tension making than some of the aberrations. And a predispossition to project antaganism.

Haus 'No amount of protest about how we are STUPID and just go down to the PUB and don't like REAL culture is going to change that, nor will it make the people on Barbelith in New York want to hang out with you more. Maybe if you keep it to point (3), without the whiny bit at the end? I think part of the joke is that most of us _do_ know who Psychic TV are, for reference.'

I thought that Caleigh was drawing attention to frequency of london'lith meetings and asking why his were not acceptable events? I didn't think he was in anyway denegrating the fine tradition of going down the pub. That post is mean though Haus

Our Lady 'It's considered polite to give people some context for what you're talking about. You clearly know who PTV are, so you're being lazy, so why should anyone give a damn about meeting up with you?'

Is there any need to start name calling.

Why do they always have the same vocabulary? Is there some sort of stroppy, arrested American phrasebook?

And Haus that is fucking rascist. And before you start with a load of contextual mitigation, you have made a generalisations about the intellect of a nation and projected it onto one indevidual that you know NOTHING about in an attempt to deminish their opinion. Racism is what it is. Being so vociferous in policing racism agianst people from the African diaspera means that you should avoid it completley. You can't dabble with it one minute and then flame people on a regular basis because they've crossed your racism line. Caleigh lives in New York and has all the power? Yeh right.

Boboss was rude, and apologised. Everyone else has really been surprisingly patient, given that it turns out that you seem primarily interested in posting to Barbelith to tell us how crap it is. Might I suggest that you go away, maybe have a little nap and then maybe come back and try to form some actual relationships not based on being a cause of mild irritation? If you just disappear for a bit everyone will start feeling guilty about having been mean to you - always works.

This is shit. Is this self imposed banning we're going for here? I say we 'cos you were deffinatley setting yourself up as my spokesperson. And for the record you're not. This speaking for everyone might be what makes people think your posts might make others feel picked on. Being confronted with a voice that has the authority of time served and claims the mandate of the boards posters is pretty intimidating.

The thing is, I have a confession to make, for what it's worth. A few years ago when I, briefly, played on Barbelith I was visiting London with my sister. I wanted to go visit the Tate and she wanted a shag. I had a magical day. It was mothers day and I spent it alone in said gallery then I jumped some trains to somewhere I think it was brixton and then i walked to a pub and waited with a paper. The man next to me at the bar notice my accent and we got talking, within seconds we had established our six degrees and chatted about mutual aquaintances for two hours. That night I met a group of very charming generous folk. A woman with long hair who had just had trapeaze lessons and had brought a non'lith mate with whom I danced to dirty drum and base most of the night. She let me lurch back to her flat and kip on her couch. Angel. I remember a few other people and often wonder who is still posting.

I don't understand why people who were so welcoming and open are being so fucking grumpy about dick all. Well you don't think it's dick all but explain to me why it's worth this amount of fuss? What's the worst that could happen if there is a spate of gathering threads that just have a link to an event. How is it worse than all this fucking meaness. It really does give the impression that this is the lingua franca of the board. The tone this sets is what's scorching all the forums. An observer might be forgiven for thinking that this is about a persons perceived newness. It feels like hyenas picking off those on the perifery of the heard. I wont sugest that you wouldn't take more familiar posters to task, but I'd bet that you would frame your comments with less spikeyness.

I rearrived just before Shadowsax was dealt with and have seen things progress through 33. I remember, when I used to play out here, there was some house keeping going on then. Which is as it should be. I'm pretty robust and can dish it and take it. I flatter myself that I also know when to shut up. I've made my point over agressively and had it pointed out. I think someone new to the board might be forgiven for thinking that semantic and robust discourse, complete with cat calls, is the name of the game or not want to take part.

For the record I find this tag team rudeness offensive. It's smacks of incrowds and 'others'. Is this where I open a thread in policy called Rudism and we flame each other untill our mutual animosity is almost the stuff of legend, or one of us just appologises to keep the peace.

I think Caleigh has done their best to set out their view of things and I think they make some really resonable points in a reasonable manner in the face of provocation. I would have opened a can of woop ass on you Haus half a page ago, so count yourself lucky my lad. Don't forget I know where you drink and your not too big to go over my knee!

I don't know whether to just delete this, whether this is just more fuel to all this conflict. I feel compelled to say something, but i'm not sure this is useful. Still better out than in, eh?

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