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CameronStewart
17:00 / 12.04.05
>>>Really? I've only read the short, spoiler-free version, but I thought that pedantic fanboy nitpickery's almost exactly what it did sound like.<<<

I caved and read the extended scene-by-scene dissection, and it really does sound like shit. Adams' dialogue truncated to the point of losing everything that made it funny in the first place, apparently only one actual appearance of the Guide itself, purposeless and unresolved subplots, new jokes that clearly miss the point, etc etc...I dunno, the Stephen Fry narrated trailer gave me hope but I think it's all gone again.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
12:19 / 13.04.05
Watching the trailer and then as much of that review as I can bare makes me think the film will be much in the style of League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, it'a decent enough film but misses most of the point of the original text. I don't think it matters if Zaphod doesn't have two heads as, as Simpson admits, the extra head and arm don't do anything. But I'll be sadder if Sam Rockwell-Zaphod is really different from Mark Wing Davie-Zaphod.

But even if DNA was involved in the development of this film, he still wrote 'Mostly Harmless' didn't he? Bloody hell...
 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
11:10 / 15.04.05
HOT BUCKETS OF UNHOLY NASTY FUCKMESS!

I missed the poxy free tickets at the Vue in Leicester Square by about 10 minutes cos I had an opticians appointment I couldn't miss this morning.

I am most annoyed. Has anyone got them? If so, is there a spare for li'l me?
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
13:37 / 15.04.05
Well, you could try Finchley Road I suppose...
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
01:04 / 16.04.05
The Simpson review really is a well-written but appallingly crafted piece of shit. It constantly contradicts itself, it nitpicks about extravagant rubbish, it seems to have no idea about both the concept of an 'adaptation' and the fact that this is only the latest in a series of Hitchhiker's 'adaptations',despite qualifying that it understands both of these concepts at the beginning... it's just another example of The Fanboy's Complaint. Observe the (fat)beard behind the face.

The movie looks like a great Hollywood adaptation of the (many) texts to me.
However, I shall reserve judgement for when I see the film. And if I was the producer, I'd delete M J Simpson from any future special treatment as far as this franchise is concerned, because, while he may be an articulate man with a compendious Adams vocabulary, he is as the shit of a woolly mammoth when it comes to reviewing movies. ie Big Lumpy And Covered In Coarse Mammoth Hair.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
09:26 / 16.04.05
Positive reviews.
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
18:56 / 18.04.05
Ex-Marvin really likes it
 
 
Whisky Priestess
22:09 / 18.04.05
Oh dear. It seems that, of Saturday, Planet Magrathea (with negative review on) is closed for business. Apparently because all the shit poor old MJ got for slating the film.

What I say is, box office returns and (especially) DVD sales will prove him right. Or wrong. And then hopefully the rsource will come back online. What a terrifying example of the power of the internet. I will not be afraid to post my opinion when I see the film, while secretly thanking God that nobody here knows my real name ...
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
13:38 / 19.04.05
I was starting to feel sorry for him after that... then a friend pointed out that it was HIS Adams biography that (elaborating on an essentially well-meaning, though badly received, bit of piss-taking by Adams in the first radio series) was really rather mean about a guy (now dead) who I used to work and go drinking with, and it really quite upset him at the time. ('twas the old college friend of DA's on whom the universe's worst poetry was based, and who ended up complaining to the BBC and having his name removed). So I don't feel so bad now.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
15:49 / 19.04.05
Not to put the boot in, or anything, but:

Nobody else in the world has the network of Adams-related contacts that I have, or sufficient knowledge of his life and work to be able to put any piece of news into context,

"I am a fucking genius. Anyone who disagrees is an idiot. See these toys? See this pram?"

*boot*
 
 
wembley can change in 28 days
08:45 / 21.04.05
Well, I've got mixed feelings about the upcoming film and could see how someone would be disappointed. I mean, Mos Def is going to rock my socks, and in general I think they've done the world a whole lotta visual justice, but I've just read the script (for work purposes) and... well.

Some of it could be really, really good. Other things, well. Not so much. I won't spoil anything here, but I will say I'm annoyed about the fact that some things that take deliciously long to sink in over the course of the book are explained in poorly-constructed seconds in the film. I know that's part of the film genre these days, but I reserve my right to be annoyed.
 
 
matthew.
16:08 / 21.04.05
I've been talking about with my friends for weeks now, trying to get them to understand how big this novel is and how big the movie is by proxy. At work, whenever I see the number 42, I giggle and point and people look at me like I'm nuts. Then when I try to explain the number, they get even more confused. What is it about Adams that makes people's eyes go cross?

Anyway, fingers crossed (like people's eyes), hoping this movie kicks my ass.
 
 
DaveBCooper
07:19 / 27.04.05
Well, I saw this last night, and it was fine. If you’re looking for something to reassure and cement your nostalgic memories of the book/TV series/radio show or whatever, this probably won’t be it, but as films go, it’s more than competent.

The Book sequences are nicely done, and the opening titles are fun, and the performers all give it a good go (Rockwell, as Beeblebrox, appears to be enjoying himself immensely, and despite the rumours, his second head is NOT up his nose). The love interest’s been made into a stronger element (that’s films for ya), but there are still a lot of laughs, and the effects are generally very good. Oh, and Bill Bailey’s voice as a plummeting whale is spot-on casting.

There are a couple of tips of the hat to the TV incarnation, and the final image of the film and the dedication ‘for Douglas’ that follows it makes me feel that the people involved have tried to be faithful to the content and spirit of the books, which I think is a good approach. So generally a fun couple of hours.
 
 
nedrichards is confused
09:45 / 27.04.05
Yes. It is good and continues the marvelous streak of luck I've been having with adaptations of much loved childhood/teenage things, LoTR, Dr Who, HHGTTG... I'm holding out for Biggles.

My other comment is that there is only one scene in the entire film in which Martin Freeman is not wearing a dressing gown. This automatically puts it in my top 10 films EVAR.
 
 
ORA ORA ORA ORAAAA!!
13:06 / 27.04.05
This movie completely failed to be a horrible abuse of everything DNA's fans expected.

It wasn't the book, or the radio play (and I assume it wasn't like the TV series, either, but I haven't seen that), but it was interesting and worth seeing.

Sadly, it wasn't as funny as the novels are, in my opinion. There are some things that Adams did with words that you can't really do with visual images, so I guess that's fair.

It looks right, though.

I was left with mixed feelings, because I'm a whinging fanboy, but overall it's a good adaptation.
 
 
some guy
19:19 / 27.04.05
Saw a press screening on Monday in LA. It's a flawed, beautiful film that is going to struggle to find a mainstream audience. It's gorgeous and the cast are great, but a lot of the jokes fall flat. The new additions range from pointless (John Malkovich) to inspired (Vogsphere).

Enough has been cut for me to understand fanboy whining, but on the other hand there are enough wonderful moments to make me want to smack them for whining.
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
21:40 / 28.04.05
Well, that was one of the best movie adaptations I've ever seen. Bloody disappointing, though.

First of all, the diversions from the radio series/TV series/books were clever, well thought-out and fitted into the thing seamlessly. Fully 75% of the dialogue and set-pieces were lifted straight from the (numerous) source materiel. Fantastic production design, shot beautifully. The cast were uniformly brilliant, absolutely perfect for the movie. Freeman makes a perfect 21st century Arthur - you can see why he was invited to the kind of party that Zaphod Beeblebrox would gatecrash, and why Ford would consider him a friend, something that's been missing from previous incarnations of the character. Rockwell is dumb, gorgeous, tangential and insane, Zaphod to the hilt. Mod Def is a revelation - a laid back deadpan ironist with a camp flamboyance and a definite loose screw. Zooey Deschanel, bless her, gets nothing to do, even with an updated Trillian, but then Trillian only ever seemed to be a dry run for Adams' far superior female creation, Fenchurch. Stephen Fry makes a great replacement for Peter Jones, Alan Rickman and Warwick Davies were born to play Marvin, Bill Bailey as the voice of the whale is utterly inspired, Helen Mirren's Deep Thought is genuinely funny. And Bill Nighy's Slartibartfast is just... superb. The movie is fucking wonderful as an adaptation.

But Hitchhikers... just doesn't work as cinema. It's always been almost entirely lacking in narrative, existing as a set of amusing sketches linked by a common theme and characters. Works as a radio series, as a TV series, as a set of books - anything where the episodic, rambling nature of the thing isn't a major drawback. As a stand alone movie - well, despite a valiant attempt to give the story a shape, it's still episodic and rambling. Contrary to what you might think, not all the best gags are lifted straight from the source. The idea-smiting paddles on Vogsphere are brilliant slapstick, and Malkovitch ethereally unpleasant as usual, providing a great counterpoint to Rockwell's frankly batty Zaphod. The increased presence of the bureaucratic, reactionary Vogons works really well contrasted with our totally hatstand heroes. But it just doesn't hang together. It's wonderful nonsense, but it really didn't need to be a film, and it suffers from that central issue at a fundamental level : it was always a tremendous conceit on everyone's part - mine included, as a fan and as a potential audience for the thing - to think it could ever work on the big screen.

Everyone did an amazing job, poured their heart and soul into it. Maybe it's my fault for not thinking it through... but what a disappointment. Oh dear. Feel vaguely crushed now...
 
 
Billuccho!
23:38 / 29.04.05
SPOILERS, kids.

Saw this earlier. Not bad, but not spectacular. I kinda liked it, although some of the jokes were much weaker than what they could've pulled from the book, although a few of them were fun (was the sofa gag in the book? I don't remember that one).

Nice to see cameos by Douglas Adams, Simon Jones, and the old Marvin bot. Bill Nighy rules as Slartibartfast. Alan Rickman is the perfect voice for Marvin. The song at the beginning is quite catchy.

There were quite a few plot holes, sure: why they're drinking all the beer, why the towel's important, etc, but I can overlook most of 'em. I can even overlook stuff they left out, like "Mostly Harmless," because of the stuff they left in and the charm of the actors involved...

So, yeah, it was alright, above average, but not spectacular. Still, I'd sit through a Restaurant at the End of the Universe, I guess.

Oh, and if you're reading this and haven't seen the movie, um, don't leave before the credits end.
 
 
lekvar
22:47 / 30.04.05
I enjoyed it. The Vogons are perfect, the casting is great. Everyone who worked on it cared, and you can tell.

But I predict it will fail. Too much of the book was sacrificed to "mainstream" the movie, but it's not mainstreamed enough to appeal to a big enough slice of the American movie-going populace (can't speak for others). It's a little episodic and unfocussed. The ending is a little forced.

The rabid fans will not like it for the reasons already discussed. Their favorite jokes won't have made the final cut, and they'll spend the whole time telling themselves and anybody who'll listen about how it should have been, according to the books/radio drama/tv series.

The people who will enjoy it, I suspect, are the ones who go in free of pre-conceived notions and accept that this is Adam's final gift.
 
 
Mister Six, whom all the girls
21:05 / 01.05.05
Saw it the other night.

Hated the opening, but I'm a downer sometimes. Hearing the song reprised by Divine Comedy I enjoyed it much much more.

The guy in front of me 'knowingly' recited 98% of the lines lifted from the book/radio show. Lovely. Must've left my ears at home, buddy, thanks so much for acting as a second set.

I kinda agree that the story fails as a film, but it is still a very good movie and lots of fun. Some of the bits they kept in purely from the radio/book were a lil too forced to me. Having Trillian say she was feeling 'peckish' at the sound of a restaraunt at the end of the universe... esp after eating a giant drugged meal... made no sense.

The 'line up' of heroes vs. villains outside arthurs house v2 was also woefully forced and annoying. I think the movie just threw up its hands and said "I've no other idea of how to end this," but what else could they have done?

But still... it was a laugh and it the bit in thfactory floorroom of planets almost made me weep. The whole attitude that the world is marvelous and beautiful but the average joe/jane fixates on the details really hit me... but maybe that's my personal infinite crisis I'm having.

What happened at the end of the credits?? Clues? PM??
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
21:42 / 01.05.05
I agree with Jon Remilliard...er, Jack the Bodiless.

What I've been telling people is that watching it play out before my eyes made me realize why it shouldn't have been made. It just doesn't translate well to film.

It's brilliant as a funny wacked out SF novel, but it's impossible to recite those lines on screen with any belief. Even in most normal comedies, I can actually believe the people are thinking and saying those words as if they were real thoughts. Watching this movie...just reminded me of it being a written fiction.

Sam Rockwell, of course, rocks it as Zaphod...not EXACTLY how I imagined him but pretty close. I sort of saw him as more whacked than stupid, but this characterization works fairly well.

I definitely laughed out loud several times, but most of the time i just felt like everyone was kind of awkwardly standing around being really goofy.

And god help her, I love Zooey to death and would definitely like to buy her dinner some day, but...um...that wasn't really acting, was it?

Loved the Guide stuff, though. Interesting to see that Shynola did it all. Super brilliant way of doing the Guide. I want one! Where's my Guide!?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
00:11 / 02.05.05
It's brilliant as a funny wacked out SF novel, but it's impossible to recite those lines on screen with any belief.

Keith- did you not like the TV series either?

To be fair, I've not seen the movie yet. But the criticisms I've read HERE (which I tend to trust more than most sources, just cos I at least have some background on other stuff people on here liked/disliked) have made me mildly optimistic.
 
 
&#9632;
07:03 / 02.05.05
What happened at the end of the credits?? Clues? PM??

No biggie, it was just the guide entry on the interstellar war caused by Arthur's words falling through a wormhole.

I was very disappointed, probably because I couldn't let go of the originals. The only bits I found even mildly amusing were the bits that used Adams' original sarcastic tone about humans. Martin Freeman was Tim in a dressing gown; Mos Def had an interesting take on Ford, but just wasn't funny; Trillian was OK, but what the heck was all that captured by Vogons plot all about? It was just padding, as far as I could see. Some nice touches (Bill Nighy was excellent, Stephen Fry was perfect, despite all the funny lines being excised), but I just wonder what the point was. I wasn't expecting much, and didn't get much. Diverting, and probably great if you've no previous, but like Watchmen... why bother?
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
12:31 / 02.05.05
Stoatie
I think I found the TV series to be a lot more in keeping with the tone and spirit of the book (I have not heard the radio series, which I guess makes me a second generation fan...I started with the novels). Sure, it was horrible effects-wise, but I believed those characters a little bit more, I think.

I really wanted to like this, and I tend to be more forgiving of adaptations when it's a property I really like, but I think I just found it a bit on the stale side...

There just seems to be a disconnect between the actors and the lines they are saying.

On the "why didn't they have this bit?" topic...I think for me, the biggest missed opportunity was the opening scene of Arthur sleepily looking out his window multiple times, failing to process the trucks outside his window. That's a pure sight gag that is MADE for film.
 
 
Mr Tricks
17:55 / 02.05.05
I dug it...

it's been so long since I've read the books I just let it wash over me in good humor. Great cast & I thought Mos Def was, well . . . perfect
 
 
XXII:X:II = XXX
07:49 / 03.05.05
I saw HHGTTG Thursday night at the Ziegfeld here in NYC. I liked it very much, but I knew I should have been absolutely LOVING it, and wasn't. It was just good enough. That might sound like faint praise, but compared with some other adaptations I've seen, it puts it head and shoulders above many of its peers.

I will say that the first two thirds are much stronger than is the last act. The problem, as I see it, is that HHGTTG is less plot-driven than Hollywood likes its big budget offerings, instead being a string of ridiculous vignettes which are more thematically linked than anything else. So they grafted on the annoying plotline with the Empathy Gun (or whatever the hell it was called) and Zaphod's stalker/vice-president. Malkovich stops being relevant at the end of his sermon, and Trillian gets arrested for no apparent reason, and the whole wrong-headed continuation of the fledgling romance between her and Arthur, which was just a bad move, and was perhaps the most cheapened aspect of the source material. By the time they actually land on Magrathea my amusement had dwindled. The whole sequence where Arthur and Slartibartfast see the planet workshop should have been overwhelming, but it was kind of emotionally flat to me.

That all said, I thought the interpretations of some of the classic gags were inspired, like the manifestations of the Improbability Drive on the Heart of Gold, and the surprise aspect of Zaphod's second head and third arm (which made it all the more frustrating when they come up with a reason to do away with those devices). I also thought that Sam Rockwell's portrayal of Zaphod as a rock n' roll edition of George W. Bush was brilliant, and was not played up nearly enough. Also, Marvin ought to have played a larger role (and that which he plays in the climax feels forced, like the whole climax), though his typically disgruntled reaction to having his arm removed as a gun surrogate was priceless.

Four direct references were made to the TV series, as far as I could tell: the same narrator for the Guide, or at least a soundalike; the theme song for the series plays right after the Earth is destroyed (that's not a spoiler; it's the whole premise of the story); the original Arthur as Magrathea's answering machine (with the added new classic: "Your destruction may be monitored for training purposes") and the original Marvin is on queue on the Vogon homeworld. Also, keep a sharp eye out for a two second cameo by Jason Schwartzman as Zaphod's shrink, delivering the classic line: "Zaphod's just zis guy, you know?"

Perhaps I'm more charitable since I didn't have to pay to see it, and I did have major complaints with it, but all in all it's a far better film than what could have emerged from the Hollywood filmmaking process. So just try to be happy with it, and maybe the DVD cut-scenes will sort out some of the confusion. If we support it, we might see a far superior rendition of Restaurant at the End of the Universe.

/+,
 
 
nedrichards is confused
12:03 / 03.05.05
Indirect homage I suspect but the quarry they land in on Vogosphere seemed remarkably low budget 80s BBC.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
13:03 / 03.05.05
Appparently, Hammer and Tongs had specified that no location should be a quarry in Wales, but that one slipped through. They claim it is accident rather than homage.

the same narrator for the Guide, or at least a soundalike

It's that ol' transatlantic magic again. The original voice of the book was Peter Jones, who died at the ripe old age of 80 some years back. The voice of the book in the film is Stephen Fry, who emerged from the "Peter Jones soundalike" market in the 80s but has gone on to carve out a moderately respectable career as an actor, comedian, chat show host, talking head, essayist and novelist. The closest thing you lot have to compare is probably Kelsey Grammer (except actually quite clever rather than just possessed of a lovely voice) or Wallace Shawn (but more likely to waste his powder narrating Harry Potter novels).
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
14:13 / 03.05.05
(off-topic)- why do I like Stephen Fry so much? On paper (meaning in theory as opposed to in print- he's, a damn fine writer too) he's the sort of person I should utterly despise, and condemn to a level of hell only slightly above the one I'd send Tony Slattery to, but in fact... I think he's fucking ace.(/off-topic)
 
 
Whisky Priestess
22:14 / 03.05.05
Here's another tribute to the original TV series (having just watched the first ep again - nostalgiatastic, and some great lines I'd forgotten) - the appearance of the Vogons.

Original BBC Vogon:


H2G2 film version


According to the director, inspiration for the Vogons' look included Ian Paisley, various cartoons and ... duh, I dunno, maybe the original TV series?

Nothing wrong with acknowledging your sources, Hammer & Tongs, but don't try to claim you made them up right out of your own heads. Naughty, naughty ...
 
 
ghadis
23:22 / 03.05.05
(off-topic)- why do I like Stephen Fry so much? On paper (meaning in theory as opposed to in print- he's, a damn fine writer too) he's the sort of person I should utterly despise, and condemn to a level of hell only slightly above the one I'd send Tony Slattery to, but in fact... I think he's fucking ace.(/off-topic)


Well Stoats, thats because he IS ACE!! A Bit of Fry and Laurie is one of the best comedy sketch shows to come out in the last thousand years!! Is there a DVD yet? If not, there should be. Havn't seen any of them in a long time but the bookshop sketch where Fry returns a book because it is 'Piffle' and 'doesn't make any sense' is one of my favourite comedy sketches ever. And Jeeves and Wooster was great. And he made a pretty good Wilde.

Slattery, of course, should be shot. In fact i'm sure it was him serving me in the pub tonight. With a limp. Making a big show of it. The twat.

Back on topic. HHGTTG. Saw it yesterday. Thought it was pretty crap to be honest. Some ok bits. Ford and Zaphod were pretty good and other sections of the film kind of worked. Went with my son, who thought it was the crappest film he's seen all year and he's DEFINATLY NOT GOING TO READ THE BOOKS NOW DAD! and my girlfriend who slept through 75% of it. They both thought it was really, really shit and i kind of think it was my own nostalgic love of the books and the TV series that got me through. Most people walking out of the cinema at the end of it just seemed to be baffled and thought it was just bad. Still, i enjoyed bits of it and i imagine i'll enjoy it more if i watch it again.
 
 
at the scarwash
00:15 / 04.05.05
I'd have to say that it was very disappointing over all. The gags just weren't wacky enough, and the pathos that makes the books function is leached out entirely, except for the whale bit, which seems out of context as a result. Arthur Dent does not snap to and realize that hey, he really does sort of dig being yanked about the universe after all. He wants to go home to a home that doesn't exist, and he wants a decent cup of tea.

Ford Prefect yammering on about how useful a towel is does not make for an interesting character. The score was crap, twee we're-making-a-daffy-Brit-comedy nonsense (except for Neil Hannon singing "So Long..." at the end, which was the best part of the film), and Zaphod verging on homicidal lunacy makes him pretty unlikeable. I kept not trying to compare it to the books or any of its other incarnations, but I couldn't help being constantly reminded of how much more apt the storytelling decisions made in them were. The worst part of it all was that the casting was excellent, the design was lovely, and nothing at all worthwhile resulted.
 
 
ghadis
01:00 / 04.05.05
It has made me really want to watch the TV series and read the books again though so it has some redeeming features.
 
 
nedrichards is confused
08:24 / 04.05.05
Appparently, Hammer and Tongs had specified that no location should be a quarry in Wales, but that one slipped through. They claim it is accident rather than homage.

How can you accidently turn up in a quarry? Surely it's well marked on maps and similar Ordnance Survey products? Wasn't Wales a clue?

Anyway, other bits to like: Deschanel's glasses. Also, the pub. In fact I thought the bit from the start right up until they got onto the Vogon ship was very deftly handled indeed.
 
 
nedrichards is confused
08:27 / 04.05.05
Not a particularly great shot but, those glasses in full.
 
  

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