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Michael Jackson arrest warrant

 
  

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Loomis
09:18 / 15.03.05
Oh, I'm not disagreeing with that. My gut response is certainly to hope, if not quite believe, that his sleepovers are not about sex. But even assuming he hasn't touched them up, I still think he knows that it at least *looks* dodgy to others.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
09:26 / 15.03.05
But if you do understand those objections and you are in the public eye than you either stop doing the thing that people object to or, if it's serious enough, you go to court. The point being that if Michael Jackson understood what he was doing and carried on than surely this is compulsive and not reasonable. Either that or he feels compelled to destroy himself in the public eye, which is terrifying.

although I'm pretty sure that Peter Sutcliffe, Harold Shipman and even Tony Blair understood that they were harming people (even if it was for the greater good), but I'm just not convinced that that's true of MJ.

Now that is a huge assumption. Shipman killed hundreds of people, how do you know that he considered himself harming people? Blair has emphasised that he felt he was working for the greater good over and over again, even if killing some people was a little wrong he believes he was enacting a greater right and thus in the long term providing for rather than harming and making his action not wrong but right. Admittedly Michael Jackson could believe the same thing- the point being that the defense you've spun can't work because we cannot know if Jackson is 1)harming people or 2)capable of the awareness of harm.
 
 
Smoothly
09:51 / 15.03.05
Oh, yeah, I'm not saying that they understood their actions to be wrong, only that they understood their actions would *harm* people (even though it might be justified). I'm not convinced, on the other hand, that MJ thinks his behaviour is even harmful, to anyone in any way. Quite the opposite, in fact.
 
 
Smoothly
09:58 / 15.03.05
I posted before your moderations to that post went through, Nina. So my response might seem a little off target. I think it still stand though.
 
 
Smoothly
10:08 / 15.03.05
the point being that the defense you've spun can't work because we cannot know if Jackson is 1)harming people or 2)capable of the awareness of harm.

Except to say that if MJ is incapable of awareness of the harm he is doing, then though that makes him dangerous, perhaps not as morally culpable as someone who harms in full cognisance of the harm they are doing.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
11:02 / 15.03.05
But we're talking about something that we just can't draw any conclusions on. Even at the end of this case our conclusions are going to be uncertain. I do feel sorry for Michael Jackson, mostly because I don't see how he can ever get any help from anyone.
 
  

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