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Matrix Reloaded - SPOILERS

 
  

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Yotsuba & Benjamin!
04:22 / 16.05.03
Okay. Fuck the action sequences. They're cool and all, they're not bad, but that's not why we're here. The Wachowski Brothers have most definitely read their Invisibles. The Matrix only hinted at it and that's why so many people loved and so few people love this one. The Philosophy is full blown. people are walking out of this movie feeling suckered and most of them are right. They wanted an action movie. they didn't want to question who or what controls them, what's behind instinct and what drives our choices. They want to see more kicking. I have to say I was actually more into the "boring talking" parts than the XBox theatricals (which were cool and fun, but, you know, fleeting). I really think that the WB want to do exactly what Grant wanted to do in The Invisibles, only they lucked into coercing Joel Silver to get behind them. Imagine what Grant could've done with him. If you thought the first one was a rip-off than this will come off as nothing less than an almost identical facsimile. It's different in a huge amount of ways. The WB have read a lot more PKD than the three books Grant's "skimmed through". It's much more about mechanical and technological control than it is about the spiritual kind. They'd probably argue that "spiritual" ideas are nothing more than variations of code, like that "A New Kind Of Science" book that that genius self published last year? The really really thick one? You know the one I mean. Anyway. People will inevitably hate this movie because most people would hate going to a philosphy seminar. The WB tried to sweeten the pill with slo-mo Kung Fu but that only goes so far. The Matrix was a dime. Reloaded is a twenty. I'm expecting Revolutions to be something along the lines of a credit card.

There's a lot to digest and a lot that i feel I've missed, so I'll be seeing it a second time, and probably taking my pee breaks during the fighting and driving and running around.

Oh. They even had the balls to drop this line:

"It's only a game."
 
 
Tamayyurt
06:07 / 16.05.03
Yeah, I've seen this twice and I'm so glad I didn't pay for either time.

I think this movie had two major problems:

1)I agree with Benjamin B. The action left me cold. It was amazing, for about five min., then it just got tedious. Every action sequence goes on for waaay too long... it's like oral sex that just 'aint happening' and it's starting to hurt.

2)It was two hours of Neo getting talked to. And although I find all that shit interesting, it was done horribly wrong. It felt more like a seminar than entertainment. And that the difference between GM and the WB. GM weaves his "big ideas" brilliantly into a story. The WB didn't.


I did like that someone in the movie pointed out that the humans need the machines more than the machines need the humans.

And I liked all the flying bits.

Going to bed now.
 
 
Tamayyurt
06:09 / 16.05.03
Oh, one more thing, I loved seeing Jasmine. She is love.
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
06:11 / 16.05.03
A link to a bile-filled post on my weblog.

I really didn't enjoy it. It just struck me as overblown, full of "we can really get away with fuck-off action sequences now, even if they don't fit" disdain for the concept of storyline. Weak script, badly-chewed scenery, and a CGI-Keanu that only just lets the real thing surpass it.

I think that this and the next one are gonna be like most double-albums. Pare them down and you'd get a pretty good single, but as they are... nah.
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
06:16 / 16.05.03
People will inevitably hate this movie because most people would hate going to a philosphy seminar.

No, people hate going to philosophy seminars where the main text is Descartes for Fucksticks. Assuming they're actually interested in philosophy in the first place. That's what the philosophical ramifications of this series is: pop-phil-lite. It's blow-shit-up gunporn clad in PVC, masquerading as enlightenment - it ain't Bible II.
 
 
that
06:32 / 16.05.03
impulsivelad - The action left me cold. It was amazing, for about five min., then it just got tedious. Every action sequence goes on for waaay too long... it's like oral sex that just 'aint happening' and it's starting to hurt.

Without having seen the film, I just know that's going to be so true.
 
 
Rage
07:10 / 16.05.03
Koid: that was fucking hilarious. Thank you. I didn't even see Reloaded and I can't stop laughing.
 
 
01
07:43 / 16.05.03
First things first. Everyone that is going to pick this movie apart and hate it just on some elitist-snobby-anti-hollywood-for-the-sake-of-it
-stay-ahead-of-the-curve-by-bashing-it--more-
Barbelith-than-thou-pseudo-intellectual level, go fuck off and start your own thread about how much how enlightened and bitter you are. This movie ruled.

I agree with Bennie B. These Wachowski cats have read the Invisibles, and good for them. The parallels are definitely there. Didn't catch the "It's just a game," line but yeah, its there for sure. The part with the Architect was great, reminded me of Dane meeting the Blind Chessman. The speech was rapid fire acedemia and only caught the gist, so I'd like to see that part again. The part at the beginning of the speech, saying to Neo "You're human, some of this you'll understand, some you won't. You might just watch my lips move, but I'm going to say it anyways", was a direct barb to the audience and the "masses". Walking out of the super-mega-plex theatre I passed a line up of pop culture patrons who this would probably apply to. One of them was a really hot blonde girl with a nice rack who should be a dancer on a Chrisina Aguilera video.

This is the brilliance of the movie and the series. In essence,exposing The Invisibles to the masses. I recently got the Invisibles companion and there's an interview with Grant Morrison where he's bitching about the Matrix "ripping him off." Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of his work, but if he's so concerned about everything that he wrote about in the three volumes and totally believes it, he should be fucking doing backflips that the Matrix is doing what its doing, (exposing people to this shit, and 'helping the baby larvae universe be born' and all that) and not be fucking suing them. Fucking ego.

So many points to be made. The yin and yang element between the Architect and the Oracle. Simple as black and white. Opposites.

The scene at the French restaraunt. The dude's speech about the ingrained programming we all have and bringing it down to sex was awesome. A fucking green on black matrix version zoom up on the chick's, well, sexual chakra took the cake. The Twins hanging back and smoking, casing everything ruled. Hell the Twins in general ruled. The fight scene with Morpheus and them in the garage although very brief was probably one of my favourites. Also the battle on top of the semi was wicked.
The "camera angle" of Trinity zipping against traffic on her motorbike was too much. Under trailers, through oncoming speeding volvos. Whoa.

I agree again with B. While the action completely rocked my socks off, it was the the cerebral elements that I found really engaging and was blown away by the fact that this was in a big budget Hollywood blockbuster. Talk about "Invisibles the game." Totally made me think about what Morrison is talking about with the interplay between fictional reality and reality. Once again back to the Architect's speech about the Matrix being reloaded six times, Morpheus realizing the the prophecy was false, Neo repelling the insect robots and Agent Smith infiltrating "physical reality" implying the whole box within a box, as above so below scenario with what is physical reality does it exist and what are the implications anc consequences reality aswe know it.

More later.
 
 
01
07:58 / 16.05.03
Like the themes of "what is it's nature, what is it's purpose?" will come into play probably in the third movie. Neo and Agent Smith seem to be each other's antithsis that will eventually be part of a new synthesis. My friends said that after the credits of the movie rolled there was a tralier for the third movie and sure enough there was. One scene that stood out was of Neo and Agent Smith running at each other full tilt almost joust like in front of a long line of multiple Smiths. They then each connect a massive shot, Superman/Doomsday style and send each other back reeling. This will probably be that synthesis: where they knock the shit out of each other realizing that "hey, us vs them is dead" join forces and view the playing field from a higher vantage point taking us with them. Like Swamp Thing #50 where the dark, evil, boogly hand meets the glowing, ethereal, angelic hand and everything goes wonky. Where "everything and nothing have changed."
 
 
that
08:03 / 16.05.03
zerone - I think people have started picking it apart due to the fact that it is a) vacuous b) boring or c) offensive. Like, because they don't like it rather than because they feel the need to protect their supercool image...

But I have not seen the film, so I'll shut up now.
 
 
straylight
08:08 / 16.05.03
Rothkoid, I had a friend reading me blurbs from the absolutely climbing-all-over-itself-with-praise Salon review as I read this thread, and your Descartes for Fucksticks quip was the best antidote. Thank you.

In short: I really, really wanted to like this movie. I thought the first one was cool, if madly derivative, and I wanted this one to blow that out of the water and make something really new. But I couldn't possibly like it. A handful of good scenes and nice moments can't make me overlook the bad dialogue, the forced foreshadowing, the lack of character depth, the lack of emotional impact (Morpheus discovering that everything he's believed is very likely untrue should have had weight, dammit), and the sad fact that though the fight scenes are cool, they're very repetitive.

That's the short version, because I've been talking about this awhile already. More later. Probably.
 
 
True Art
08:57 / 16.05.03
This movie lacked the alienation and angst of the first. A sequal would of course HAVE to reveal more details about the nature of this world - so it took away the mystery and discovery which made the first film so interesting. In the begining of the first movie you have absolutely NO idea who this superhot latex clad women is and how she is able to do such magnificent kung-fu. Is she a bad guy, is she a good guy? You don't know - you find out as Neo does. I don't know if this film could carry that off into a sequal, but I expected that it couldn't. I agree some action scenes were at times tedious. Perhaps the speeches in Zion could have been edited down. Perhaps the oracle should have remained slightly more cryptic. I LIKED the french guy -- but that went on a bit too long. Having said all that - I still enjoyed it. And the best fight scene was Morpheus on the semi-truck.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
09:41 / 16.05.03
Walking out of the super-mega-plex theatre I passed a line up of pop culture patrons who this [the term 'the "masses"'] would probably apply to. One of them was a really hot blonde girl with a nice rack who should be a dancer on a Chrisina Aguilera video.

Congratulations, Matrix Reloaded - in zerone, you've found your target audience!
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
11:38 / 16.05.03
Impulsive: It was indeed sloppy prostelytizing (sp?) but I was incredibly impressed that they even tried. Most sci-fi films tend to be very arms length about the ideas that, philosophically, are behind it. At great cost to its narrative tension as a movie, the WB decide to just lay it out there full blast, much to the chagrin of a very large amount of people.

I wouldn't really qualify myself as a fuckstick, but I'll admit I haven't even read the Matrix's website's articles on philosophy much less any other independently produced works on philosophy so I'm not taking this film as any kind of, you know, Republic. I think it's a lot more simplified than that, as complicated as the exposition is. I completely disliked the first movie the second Morph tells Neo "The question is not where are you, but when." And the moment Neo walks into the Architect's room surrounded by himself, it totally justified everything. "The only way we'll be able to make this point is through this ridiculous temporal 'here's the future and the machines have taken over' story." It's a lot like the reason why I actually like the ending to A.I. "You want a fairy tale ending? Okay. You'll just have to wait for humanity to be completely extinguished for it to happen."

I have a distinct feeling that, philosophically, it's going to be a lot like Pulp Fiction was for me. Completely mind blowing until actually sit down and watch Goodfellas and realize how ham handedly QT ripped him off whole cloth. I'm not ready to sell myself that short yet, though.

Oh, and I definitely think Morpheus will have much inner turmoil in the next film. He's just found out his belief system is basically a prop for effective battery recharging five minutes ago. We get the sixth minute in November. He and the guy from Get On the Bus are going to have a lot to talk about.
 
 
Sax
11:49 / 16.05.03
I haven't seen it yet but I'm hoping the movie answers the question that bugged me after the first movie - why the bother inventing The Matrix at all?

Were I a machine hive consciousness with a world-sized battery farm of humans to power my physical bodies, would I go to the effort of creating a virtual world for their minds to wander in while I waited for them to grow up and I could start melting them down into their component resources?

Would I fuck. I'd just sedate them (which they have to be to be plugged into the Matrix anyway) and sod 'em. Why bother giving the humans the illusion of comfort? All it does is create the means for rebellion.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
11:59 / 16.05.03
I'm pretty sure it was to stimulate the brain and get the most bioeletric bang for their buck. In the Second Renaissance animated short you see the machines poking around in human brains (still connected, naturally) and making them laugh and cry, et al, presumably checking the levels of energy generated.
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
12:52 / 16.05.03
First things first. Everyone that is going to pick this movie apart and hate it just on some elitist-snobby-anti-hollywood-for-the-sake-of-it
-stay-ahead-of-the-curve-by-bashing-it--more-
Barbelith-than-thou-pseudo-intellectual level, go fuck off and start your own thread about how much how enlightened and bitter you are. This movie ruled.


So, essentially someone who doesn't agree with your view of the film as being grrrreat is an exemplar of snobby elitism?

Riiiiiiiight.

I bash the movie because it was shit, not because of its philosophical tenets, or because of its big-business background. Criticism is life: welcome, as Morpheus might say, to the Real World.
 
 
Capitalist Piglet
13:57 / 16.05.03
I was not impressed for all the reasons stated above. I only give it a 7 out of 10 because it IS the MATRIX, but that's about it. Neo's naked ass scares me.
 
 
Mike-O
14:31 / 16.05.03
I expected shit, honestly. But I think if you remove a few of the overdone elements, such as the 20min long fight seens that aren't really working (ie: 100 Agent Smiths, wtf this didn't need 10min!) the film has a great deal of credibility. At the very least it has a great effort. I think the only real flaw is a little bad dialogue and the plot not flowing COHESIVELY. The first film paced wonderfully... this one, not so much. But if that ball can be picked up, the third film still has a great deal of potential. And that's not to say this one wasn't entertaining: it was for me, absolutely. Architect scene was beautiful, highway chase was fabulous, French Guy stole the film. But, it could have been much, much better.

I hear the whole Grant Morrison facsimille bit, but honestly he's not the only person with ideas like his... the Brotheres W. are prolly just fans trying to find their own vision of ideas he takes interest in as well. Just my opinion.
 
 
Tamayyurt
15:05 / 16.05.03
Actually my friends aren't snobby elitists and they prefer big budget Hollywood movies and they hated the matrix (more so than I did) half of them were confused and the other half didn't like it's snobby tone. (i.e. both you and neo are dumb asses so lets lecture to him and you.)

And their favorite movie this year is still X-Men 2 (and they've never read a comic.) And my little brother pointed out..." Magneto could fucking destroy the Matrix in a second, right? Why's Noe having such a hard time?" I of course told him that wasn't a fair comparison.

So yeah, I think this movie is losing the mainstream audience the first Matrix picked up.
 
 
some guy
15:15 / 16.05.03
I was surprised how bad the effects were compared to the first one. It was fun listening to the entire fucking theater bitch about how much the movie sucked as they exited and see the worried faces start to creep over the people who were waiting in line for the next showing.

"I love you too damn much!"

Complete crap, on every possible level. Anyone who sees "philosophy" in these films needs a second brain cell.
 
 
cusm
15:39 / 16.05.03
On a completely different side of it, I really liked the fantasy bits. Wearwolves watching an old Dracula movie, Chinese Ghosts flying around through shit, rebel gods, and Hades being a right proper prick. The genre wasn't overexposed, just introduced enough to let you know its there, too. And the rave scene was right hot.

Oh, and its still the Kult RPG, even more than the first movie. Complete with the messiah getting fucked and enlightenment being a lie bits. And big knobby gears in Metropolis/Zion. Fuck Morrison, this is ripped from before his time, and adapted quite nicely.

I'd also just like to give them another gold star for continuing to cast the black guy not as the sap who gets killed first, but as many of the important leaders. They managed to avoid ethno-centricity to a degree rarely seen in hollywood. Probably completely unnecessary to mention, but its nice to see a film manage to handle that issue well enough that it comes off as though it wasn't even considered at all, that's just how things are.
 
 
Jack Fear
15:57 / 16.05.03
Oh, it seems obvious to me that the race angle was calculated to bits: because, you know, black people are badass—like rappers, man: they're so cool. Public Enemy, the whole thing. Totally revolutionary.

And of course the black people are more in touch with reality, because they're so spiritual, you know? So free. Untouched children of nature, and all that.

And man, can they dance! It's that natural rhythm, man.
 
 
The Natural Way
16:00 / 16.05.03
Impulsivelad, wasn't it you who described TTT's visuals as "boring". Hmmm, I don't trust you on the spectacle thing.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
16:01 / 16.05.03
Jack,

Then what was Cornel West doing there? He would've smelled that shit a mile away.
 
 
Jack Fear
16:08 / 16.05.03
...because Black Studies professors are inherently incorruptible and immune to flattery, and never sell out for the Tall Dollar or the blowjob of fame? Isn't that another pernicious stereotype?

I'm only half-serious.

Which means I'm only half-joking.
 
 
cusm
16:24 / 16.05.03
Right. Because Morpheus is ever so grounded in reality...

Actually, you get a pretty even spread of badassitude among race. Noone is a token anything, which is the point of how to handle that right. I'm sure it was calculated - calculated to be less noticable. Noone particularly stood out for being of their race in their position, and there's no character I can refer to easily as being "the X guy". That's how you know it was handled well.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
16:33 / 16.05.03
Well, not just cause he's a "Black Studies professor". I read Race Matters and Mr. West spoke at my commencement. Didn't strike me as one who even felt the need to sell out. But, yeah, people are fallible. He made a choice and choices are, as we all know now, the lynchpin of the Matrix itself...

At least I think that's what it was...
 
 
Mr Tricks
16:34 / 16.05.03
Well said Cusm:

Saw the Movie wednesday night in a PACKED thearter in OAKLAND (city where portions of that car chase where filmed)... EVERYONE in the thearter had a BLAST!!! a hella-good time... so much so I sort of feel sorry for those who paid to see it and didn't enjoy it...

Great Specticle...X2 had more heart.

Funny that Kungfu die-hards are already complaining about the fight choreography brought to the film by one of the masters. I thought it was great stuff... Neo actually looked like he knew Kungfu (wires or not)... the Camera work on those scenes where PHAT, long wide shots where you could see what was going on (rather than endless jump-cuts). And the escalation scale was classic. Neo starts with 2 "upgraded" agents---next level Agent Smith---next level the scary monster guys with weapons (was expecting someone to turn feral)--- Agent Smith at higher stakes--- then out of the matrix all together(I'm still expecting him to wake up and find out THAT real world is still in the matrix).
That scale also worked for Morpheus & Trinity as well...

Morpheus had all the best lines & Neo didn't say "WOAH"

Loved the Alex Grey reference WRT "He who protects that which is most important"

White guilt aside... I dug the "people of Color" presence in the flick...

& Yeah ZION's the place to party... Irie Vibes & Phat beats...

Anyone else get a glamorised sence from the post-matrix "plugs" particularly the NEO-TRINITY love-fest...

Also the pulling the bullet out scene & of course the Cakegasim...

The FRENCH HADES was great!!! stole all of those scenes...

Plenty of Invisible stuff for sure... Back doors and all.

As for the Agent Smith vs. Neo fight... I totally felt that there was an intentional movement towards X-boxesque visuals as the fight continued...

and come-on... "Neo's doing his Superman thing"

hahahaha great!!!
 
 
Thjatsi
16:35 / 16.05.03
I'd just sedate them (which they have to be to be plugged into the Matrix anyway) and sod 'em. Why bother giving the humans the illusion of comfort? All it does is create the means for rebellion.

Why bother with the humans at all? Just execute them, launch a shuttle, and set up solar panels in space. This allows you to:

A: Generate almost an infinite amount of power, unbounded by a human carrying capacity.

B: Not have to worry about the one shutting down the matrix every one hundred years or so.

C: Prevent any more attacks from the humans.

D: Leave the exiles without a place to hide.
 
 
iconoplast
16:39 / 16.05.03
I liked this movie. Not as much as I wanted to, but I did.

Admittedly, while the constituent parts were all 'more' than the first movie, they didn't add together as well.

The special effects aren't as mind blowing - fair enough. Can't expect them to do something as cooler than bullet time than bullet time was to what came before it. And I thought the fight sequences were, yeah - a bit too XBox. At times, I was in the theater wondering if the fight scenes had been done by the guys who did Shrek.

The philosophical questions raised, though, are way more interesting. The plot's gotten way squirrelier. I'm not sure if Neo is the messiah or not, if he is what it means, which side he's fighting on, if there are sides, or what. Plus, how it is that 'Matrix Powers' (Smith's posession/replication, Neo's Raise-my-hand-and-stop-things schtick) are suddenly translating into meatspace.

Basically - the first Martix, I felt, was using its piecemeal Gnostic mythology to justify the action sequences. In this movie, it felt more like the action sequences were there to justify the questions raised.

In either case, the albino twin wraith things were amazing. The keymaker was a great conceit - this movie is pulling from a lot more sources, and its confronting us with a Matrix world that's really different from how we understood it.

The Zion sequences were sort of predictable, with the exception of Cornell West's Cameo (What's the matter - did Baudrillard turn them down?), but I thought the dancing scenes were, well, way hotter than the sex scenes they were intercut with.
 
 
cusm
16:47 / 16.05.03
Anyone catch the numbers of how many men and women it was who were to repopulate the world? I missed that.

As for the Neo vs 1000 Smiths fight, I'll have to say that while cool there was just way too much going on to appreciate the kung fu. I was basicly watching for the occasional flying body slamming into buildings. I imagine the DVD will come with multiple angles to play with for that one.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
16:52 / 16.05.03
Something like 23 fellas and 14 women? This is the part I need to see again for sure, or find the script somewhere.
 
 
diz
16:53 / 16.05.03
i'm going to weigh in on the side of liking it overall, though with significant criticisms.

the phiolosophy was pretty elementary, and the delivery of such was more than a little tedious and forced at times. when they sat down at the Merovingian's table and he immediately started launching into his cause-and-effect spiel i was reminded of Waking Life, which is a really bad thing in my book. it wasn't profound, it wasn't especially watchable.

however, what the Wachowski's are doing deserves major credit. the overall effect of the movie is to break down the simple dualistic moral paradigm that is at the heart of the action genre by blurring the lines between the monolithic sides (human vs machine) and by undermining the moral and intellectual integrity of the "good guys" position.

they know that they're working in an action movie context, and they know that the movie they're making is one of the most eagerly anticipated sequels of all time. knowing that, they deliberately throw a bunch of roadblocks into the path of the action movie formula by questioning the overall purpose of the hero's actions at every turn and assaulting the moral clarity of "good guys vs bad guys" that lies at the base of the action movie genre. essentially, they've lured in the audience with "gun porn," if you want to call it that, and then set about attempting to destroy the genre.


the key on that front are the continuing issues relating to free will, choice, and control. in the first movie, everyone trusts the Oracle as this font of unquestioned wisdom, and everything revolves around her and her prophecy. this is in keeping with action movie and sci-fi/fantasy genre conventions to the point of being cliche. i mean, who in the audience doubted that the Oracle was trustworthy in the first one? who really believed for a second that Neo wouldn't end up being revealed as The One at the end of the Matrix? it's practically impossible to even conceive of the possibility of a mainstream Hollywood sci-fi action movie where things would go some other way.

now, right off the bat, when Neo goes to her, essentially to get instructions on what to do in the present crisis, the Oracle flat-out tells him that he has no real reason to trust anything she says. the Merovingian tells Neo, Trinity, and Morpheus that they're only doing what they're doing because that's what they were told to do (and, subtextually, because that's what genre convention and the script dictate). finally, the Architect reveals that the entire rebellion and the illusory freedom of Zion is essentially just a safety valve for the Matrix - some small number of human anomalies will inevitably rebel against the Matrix, so they just channel those rebellious forces through a structure of their own making.

(i would even go so far as to say that this is at least in part a self-critical move on the WB's part: they are aware that the film's "rebel chic" is part of the commodification of youthful rebellion by the society of the spectacle.)

this leads Neo to the point where he drops the bomb not only on Morpheus but also on the viewing audience:

"The Prophecy was a lie. It was just another system of control. I'm sorry."

in my book, that one line takes the action movie genre and throws it on its head, and that makes this movie successful on some important level.

i think it also serves to eliminate the usefulness of Neo as a Christ surrogate and the series as a whole as a CS Lewis-style pop culture Christian allegory, and, boldly for a conservative American audience, implies that Messianic religion is simply a means of control.

other things i liked:

- the complication of the humans vs machines dichotomy with the introduction of independent programs with their own agendas (the Merovingian, the Oracle, Seraph, the Twins, the Keymaker, Agent Smith).

- the increasing acknowledgement of machine/human interdependence (i'm not sure how much i bought the Architect's insistence that the machines didn't need humanity and that they were willing to accept the possibility of a reduced baseline-level existence - i think he was bluffing)

- Morpheus' place in human society. I was not at all expecting him to be who he was to their society: a sort of charismatic religious leader with a massive cult following on the fringes of the official military, the mad captain of a ship with a reputation for having a sort of pall of doom hanging over it. He's like the bastard child of David Koresh and Captain Ahab. seeing him move between being a virtual pariah in high-level government meetings to addressing the cheering throngs at the massive temple rally like some prophet out of the Old Testament was amazing.

- on a more shallow note, the Twins were the fucking bomb.

- pretty much all the fight scenes that Neo wasn't in, especially when Morpheus and the Twins started mixing it up in the garage.

what i didn't like:

- overall, too much of the philosophizing was forced, awkward, and elementary in actual execution, no matter how much i liked that it was being done at all.

- any fight scene with Neo in it, especially the Burly Brawl, which, despite being one of the big "action centerpieces," was a really good time to leave the theater to go and take a shit if you were so inclined. yawn. you know he can't lose. what's the point?
 
 
Hieronymus
16:54 / 16.05.03
Those albino lads sold out too, y'know
 
  

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