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Vertigo Pop: London: mister six returns.....

 
  

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yawn - thing's buddy
11:49 / 07.11.02
this looks nice. scored today, will read tonight.

art is beautiful tho badly coloured I reckon.

milligan and bond.

milligan sure gets to work with all the best 'pop' artists out there dunt ee?

mccarthy, ewins, bond, allred, pope, hewlett, cooke

not surprised.

he's a genius.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
11:55 / 07.11.02
what I meant to say was the lead character is a ringer for sixy!
 
 
kid coagulant
12:53 / 07.11.02
'King Mob' gets a namecheck as well. But not that 'King Mob', the other 'King Mob'.

And Milligan, genius, yes.
 
 
Murray Hamhandler
14:54 / 07.11.02
Yes, I am so happy to have our old Milligan back again. Is such a warm and fuzzy feeling. And we can just pretend now that Elektra/Magneto/bla bla bla never never happened...

This has the feel of early Vertigo (that's a good thing in my world). Has Milligan worked w/Bond since Shade? Because they really should more often.
 
 
louisemichel
16:53 / 07.11.02
yes, they should !
Buy it, read it, it's worth it !
I love Phil Bond.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
17:17 / 07.11.02
ooh. ooh. I've been looking forward to this for ages. Must get soon.

As someone once said about something else, I'd read a shopping list if Phillip Bond illustrated it.
 
 
Mr Tricks
17:54 / 07.11.02
When did Bond illustrait SHADE?

The guy WAs a dead Ringer for Mister 6.... think that was intentonal?

reminded me of the old Vertigo Verite series...
anyone remember GIRL?
 
 
kid coagulant
18:06 / 07.11.02
Bond did an issue or two w/ Shade and Agent Stringer back on Meta, I think it was between issues 50-60 or thereabouts. I think Lenny and her daughter were in it as well.

What else has he done lately? Would love to see what he could do w/ 'New Xmen'.
 
 
uncle retrospective
19:20 / 07.11.02
That was one great first issue, I’m hooked. It's been a while since I picked up something that gave me a big wow and it felt great.
Milligan at his best and you have to love Philip Bond.

As for what is Vertigo Pop (The question is in the abstract), I have no idea? Have they said anything about what they're trying to do with it? Was the Tokyo story any good?
 
 
Jack Fear
20:01 / 07.11.02
Vertigo Pop is like Oni Lite, but in color: comix for da yoof, with a dollop of pop culture and pop muzik as plot points--DC cutting into the Hopeless Savages and Blue Monday market.

VP: Tokyo was pretty good: all about an American dude getting involved with a fame-hungry Japanese schoolgirl and her yakuza brother, who are both interested in a gothy J-Pop star, though for different reasons. It's a caper, essentially. Lots of culture-clash fun, with a light touch and wonderfully stylized Seth Fisher artwork.

London looks to be a little darker than that.
 
 
_pin
20:11 / 07.11.02
I belive it's just them telling storys about cities in a big, overblown, POP! kinda way. Like everything you ever thought the city was about, but it goes up to 11.

I think. Maybe. Having never read any of any of them, I can only go on what The *hawk SPIT!* Face told me.
 
 
Murray Hamhandler
22:47 / 07.11.02
"reminded me of the old Vertigo Verite series...anyone remember GIRL? " -Mr. Tricks

That's actually just the title I had in mind when I referred to "old Vertigo".

The big V. really needs to collect their multitude of uncollected Milligan one-shots and minis (possibly excluding Egypt, which is okay but considerably subpar on the Milligan Scale of Excellence) for those unfortunate enough to have not read them. Not to mention Shade, of course...
 
 
Murray Hamhandler
22:59 / 07.11.02
Ooh (veering slightly off-topic)...reminds me, for those interested. Peter's Tank Girl work is being reprinted in the current series of TG TPB's. And Hewligan's Haircut will be reprinted sometime w/in the next month or two, apparently.
 
 
Mr Tricks
23:26 / 07.11.02
Hey... I liked EGYPT Great art... albet uneven, and a wonderful twist ending...
Certainly much better than GIRL IMO... though I Liked GIRL for sure!!!

AND SHADE SHOULD CERTAINLY be collected!!!
 
 
gergsnickle
02:11 / 08.11.02
At the X-Statix thread I asked for Milligan suggestions. And Lo. I've just started reading Shade and am looking for more. I will definitely check these out. Thanks. Anymore?
 
 
rakehell
03:32 / 08.11.02
Apparantly the Vertigo Pop series was going to examine the effect of American pop culture on various countries.

As for Milligan suggestions - apart from Shade - I'd put Enigma at the top of the list, followed by The Extremist - has that been collected? Paradax was great as was Rogan Gosh, though they can be very hard to find.
 
 
sleazenation
07:09 / 08.11.02
another milligan pop gem done with jaimie Hewlett - Hewligan's Haircut

At the vertigo panel at Britains Comics 2002 festival the main questions being asked were "is X going to be collected" - while most series garnered a standard "no plans at this time" response Shade seemed to provoke favourable mutterings...
 
 
Harhoo
10:34 / 08.11.02
I heart me Egypt loads as well. Goodo story and art plus the lead dood is the sexiest Milligan character this side of Lenny.

Talking of great tricky-to-get-hold-of Milligan books: Face is a superb example of Milligan noir which some rainy afternoon I'm going to turn my comics collection upside down to find.

That reminds me, isn't Skreemer reissued now? Has anybody got it and does it date well?

Oh, and to try and not be totally threadrotacious, the Vertigo Pop line seemed to be a fairly desperate flail. VP: Tokyo failed to stir up any interest; the idea was supposed to be a fresh look the city by a Yanqui whose lived there for, like, ages. And then it was about the yakuza and teen pop stars. Yawny. I'm probably still going to get VP: London mind.
 
 
rizla mission
10:50 / 08.11.02
Only so far seen one panel from this comic - but it sounds like a recipe for cool-ness. Will get.
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
11:24 / 08.11.02
'Enigma' was really what got me into Vertigo in the first place, the first collection I bought.

As for 'Tokyo', started okay and went downhill from there. By issue 3 stuff was happening randomly for absolutely no reason, all the characters were charicatures which I assume is some kind of 'oh-so-clever' metacommentary on life in Tokyo in general and I have absolutely no intention of buying the last issue when it limps into the shops.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
11:46 / 08.11.02
Milligan knows about story structure, its true. I love the foreshadowing of the body swap - we get Rocky going from being an early twenties spunk factory to being thirty in India to being 60 years old right here just now. I could feel a jolt as each transition was made. Then Rocky dun wenten swapped bodies with a new young spunk factory on the last page of this stunning, brilliant, ultra-fash comic book. This is how I want my comics to be. All the time.

Fun. glamourous. intelligent. thoughtful. soapy.

with strong characters. and great dialogue (and trialogue and beyond - I loved the garden party discussions and Bond - spot on: you render mother and daughter in a convincing fashion (check their noses, comicrades) - therefore this: Bond, you are great.)

Trixies 'talk' with the reader was sensational. economical. lush and discreet. My favourite character in the book.

Milligan writes well about men. Freakwave, Skreemer, Enigma, Sooner or Later etc. loads of others.

But he does girls so well too. re: xforce and thissun here.

The video projector idea was smart and familiar. The 'present' to yourself in the future really quite powerful, no?

yes.

So: the story: typical milligan. body swaps. brain swaps. young boys and girls. and the sense that the 'story' itself is a character.

As for the drug you smoke to swap bodies: what I want to know is: Did the swami make a PERMANENT jump into Rocky's thirty year old frame way back when?

finally, this:

'Because...Because you're a Drummer. And Drummers...they're not meant to have life-changing transcendental experiences...'

when comics are this good - nothing else compares.
 
 
glassonion
11:36 / 10.11.02
but guitarists are. i want to know what the manzarekesque blonde-fellow been doing for thirty years...the line should have read 'Brian too out of it to know or care'...[i reckon rocky would've been far more interested in what the dandy seeker had to say than the piss/skag-head axe-strangler.] and the busker getting the oasis words wrong and...all brilliant. did anyone else's issue have loads of nearly-nude lady rasslers in it tho? vertigo pop=vertigo stories w. popstars in. no-more, no-less.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
13:10 / 10.11.02
there was a george harrison thing going on as well eh?

thing is: is rocky not fucked now? no-ones going to beleive he's in the young body - so does he lose his house, wife, etc?

king foward to see how ill again sorts this mess out.
 
 
rakehell
01:08 / 11.11.02
y'know what's also cool? It's the first time in aaaaages I've seen a writer use captions despite everyone else saying how unkewl and 80s they are.

I think that too often comics without captions are read too quickly... though that could be just because they're crap and this one wasn't.
 
 
CameronStewart
13:24 / 12.11.02
>>> and the busker getting the oasis words wrong and...all brilliant.<<<

Are we convinced this is intentional? I'm not entirely. It could be a) an intentional misquote to avoid legal hassle (you wouldn''t believe the number of times this has been a problem for me - the merest hint of a real-world logo or person and I'm asked to change it) or b) Milligan not being an Oasis fan and merely writing from memory, and fluffing it a bit. Had it been an obviously incorrect, amusing misquote I'd think it was intentional, but it's not, really, it's just a bit off. I didn't even catch it until it was pointed out.

That's a lot of typing for something so inconsequential. What's wrong with me today?

Bond's artwork was lovely. I was worried he was losing it a bit when I read Angel And The Ape (weird, animalistic noses on all the girls and awkward, stiff characters) but he's back on form here...
 
 
glassonion
19:10 / 12.11.02
yeah you're right really. i've no idea if the words i reckon are the right ones are right at all. i've never heard any two buskers sing the same words to the song tho' there's a chap in this town it's the only song he knows. i love captions. personally i'm looking forward to the late-eighties/early nineties revival, all guns and captions, there's never enough fighting in comics any more.
 
 
The Falcon
01:09 / 13.11.02
True dat, l'onion.

I want god-men brawling. With tanks and buildings.

Read Morrison's JLA. It's good, brilliant even, but there's just not enough panels of fighting.

There should be more fights in books, too.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
07:07 / 13.11.02
you are perpetuating the braveheart image dunc.
 
 
The Falcon
14:18 / 13.11.02
Aye.

Don't know if that's a good thing, like.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
19:45 / 13.11.02
was worried he was losing it a bit when I read Angel And The Ape (weird, animalistic noses on all the girls and awkward, stiff characters) but he's back on form here...

Know what you mean, but I reckon that's all about the writing. Bond was completely wasted on A&TA, with the single exception of that double-page spread of them dancing in the club (if anyone cares, that's where I nicked the idea for the end of Name's Not Down from) - having him draw cute punk kids is such a no-brainer.

Anyway, point is I think this is the best use of his art since Kill Your Boyfriend - Milligan's a smart guy. Love the details of the clothes - yes, that is how aging rock stars dress... Love that panel of Rocky looking pissed off - best wordless Bond panel since the one where the boy and girl sip champagne and exchange a look in KYB. Love the way he gets the different parts of London right.

I want to marry Philip Bond. Seen those Kirrin Beer ads? Awesome.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
10:55 / 18.11.02
First thing I've read in ages where I'm *waiting* eagerly for the next one..

(Captions. Exclamations!! Yes!)

Ooh - lovely.

Very simple idea/set-up with loads of possibilities... Interested a in what's going to happen with the wives/daughter now he's got the young stud body...

Loved the photo-op scenes, the thing about 'being the bohemian rock 'n rock non-nuclear family'... And the close-up on Rocky's face when he's switched from 'Finsbury Park speed to Chelsea acid' is a great representation of someone tripping...Really simply done, not o-t-t.

Use of the Rolling Stones is spot on; they're your archetypal 'still groovin' rock dinosaurs - a perfect image to have in mind when you start to hear about Rocky's need to relive his youth/take back the lost time...

Oh, and I want Phillip Bond Boy Hair.
 
 
The Natural Way
11:06 / 18.11.02
Oh, look, it really is good, this. Reminds me of 2000AD and revolver and Deadline and all that early 90's Brit fabness. Mmmmm. I think I'm gearing up to give superheroes the big FUCKOFF. We'll wait and see, but after NXM....who knows?
 
 
invisible_al
12:12 / 18.11.02
Picked this up and read it over the weekend, what a change of pace for Vertigo. Just a good story with some damm fine art, none of that re-heated Gaiman that Vertigo have been pushing for too long.
I loved the Trixie monolog, the words and the art introduced the 'real' trixie to the reader perfectly. And some great one-liners 'Drummers don't get transcendental life changing experiences'. Bond gets so much character out of some of the faces he draws, Roxy's ex-wife, young rocky, old rocky, lovely.

Bond and Milligan, two great tastes that go well together .
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
14:03 / 18.11.02
Bond gets so much character out of some of the faces he draws

Yep - the way his drawing is cartoony and ultra-realistic at the same time is fab; check the contrast between the eyes of young and old Rocky, how all the spark and hope has just drained out of them over the years.
 
 
The Natural Way
14:05 / 18.11.02
Yes! Yes!

Oh, he's just great....
 
  

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