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The Filth #4

 
  

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primaeval soup
19:38 / 06.10.02
fenris10111: Maybe the whole thing can be mapped on a tree of life
1-10 are sepheroth and 11-13 are the "negative veils"
1 starts with a twin earth, the Malakuth/[whatever the qliphotic equivilent is.]
and so on...


Okay.

#2 – Yesod, right? The astral? And in this issue Ned gets properly shown around the “world beneath the world”. In fact, bits of this one read very like the Promethea tour-guide shtick.

#3 – Uh, whatsitcalled – can’t remember – anyway, this is the Thoth-Hermes-Mercury Sephiroth right? (Or is it Sephira?) The intellect, and stories, and so on. And we get lots of stuff about comic books, and playing around with the narrative of Secret Original’s homeworld. And we’re introduced to a character called Mercury! But its all seen thru the miserable nihilism of S.O.

#4 – Um, again, can’t remember the name of this one. But it’s the Venusian Sephiroth, yeah? But instead of healthy sex-vibes, we’re treated to mountains of old porn magazines, and stories of people dying in the quest for harder kicks. Instead of the love between two blood-brothers, we get its Qliphothic parody in a couple of piss-brothers.

If fenris10111 ‘s theory works out, then the next issue should be the shadow-sephiroth of Tiphareth – and Tiphareth’s the one where you meet your Holy Guardian Angel, isn’t it? Full-on, feel-good mystical ecstasy? So its evil twin ought to be pretty damn nasty…Is there a Qliphothic equivalent of the HGA?

As I’m sure you’ve gathered from the above, I possess a vast and awe-inspiring knowledge of Qaballistic doctrine (and before you ask – no, I’m not the Head of the Illuminati, but it’s an understandable error).
The insight that I’ve been granted, however, may be a little spotty in places. Half-remembered bits of Promethea only get you so far, I’m afraid. So c’mon – I know there’s got to be Kaballah-heads out there who can do a proper job on this. (I’m sure as fuck not going to set aside the next few years of my life for study of the Seffir Yessirak or whatever just so’s I can grasp the subtext of a damn comic book, for fuck’s sake.)

No. Seriously. I’m curious. Thirsty for knowledge. If anyone can recommend a book or website about the Dark Side of the Tree of Life, I would thank them. I’d say “Thank you” – like that.
 
 
primaeval soup
19:58 / 06.10.02
undo -- can't speak for My Misheard Lada, but me not clever. Me jumping in an' pretending that I knew all along.

I too was thrilled by "Time A Murder Weapon" idea in #4.

But "time is a great healer"? Except for minor cuts and bruises, do you really think that's true?
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
10:07 / 07.10.02
Undo tells me:

'No – time has not proved to be a great healer in my experience – okay, scabs have hardened and dropped off, and I’ve almost forgotten that my secondary school days were particularly grim, but overall, no, time has proved to be a cunt (like God, see Bill Drummond thread in art section).

Thinking on it a bit more: time is indeed a great healer because it’s so bloody democratic but sadly it’s credo reads:

You gotta be cruel to be kind.’

Yawn asks:

Anyway Evil: How do you find the time to wear so many suits?
 
 
Jack Fear
12:52 / 07.10.02
PREDICTION:

If Tony the tiger doesn't get killed by Bad Greg (always a possibility), I'd say his chances of survival just climbed considerably.

Tony is assumed to have a kidney problem, and is being trated accordingly... and doesn't seem to be getting any better. This is because he has been misdiagnosed: as Von Vermun's exquisite sniff reveals, Tony's real problem is a thyroid condition.

Notice Feeley/Slade's reaction to this tiny bombshell: quiet revelation.

And that, my friends, is what keeps Feeley/Slade going through that wasteland: if he can make it back—if if if—then he has, for the first time in a long time, a real chance at saving Tony, armed as he is with new information.
 
 
The Natural Way
13:22 / 07.10.02
Unless, of course, Grant just cocked it up: which isn't THAT unlikely.
 
 
Jack Fear
13:28 / 07.10.02
No, no--look again: Von Vermun says "thyroid complaint," and Feeley/Slade gets an odd look and whispers "--thyroid? What?" or somesuch.

It screams "big fat plot point" to me, and I'm amazed that nobody else mentioned it.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
13:58 / 07.10.02
I mentioned it to my mum.
 
 
The Natural Way
14:15 / 07.10.02
Cool.

I want that cat to LIVE.

And so does my Mum - she was well chuffed when she heard the news.
 
 
Jack Fear
14:45 / 07.10.02
I want that cat to LIVE.

*imagines Runce in an ambulance-driver's uniform, kneeling over a prostrate Tony, pounding on Tony's chest*

"Live, damn you! LIVE!!"
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
14:55 / 07.10.02
careful now, or you'll incur the wrath of the morrisons'
 
 
primaeval soup
18:57 / 08.10.02
Predictions? I’m in for “Tony does not die (yet). Tony does get raped by Replacement Greg, though.”

Also: “The plasticene/robot/? character we saw in the background of a panel in issue two will team up with Ned for a thrilling adventure. This agents’s name is Marty, he has a jolly but sometimes baffling sense of humour, and his hobbies include astronomy (a fact that will prove very important as the story unfolds).”

And finally: “An old friend will ring you with good news.”

Yawn – what do you mean about the suits? Don’t understand. Going from “Old Evil” to “New & Improved Evil” or whatever doesn’t really count as changing suits, does it? More like…changing ties, or something. I suppose I can see how you might find it a bit silly and annoying…

Time – I don’t know about time. Or God, for that matter. The “cruel to be kind” interpretation of their actions seems fair enough when applied to the events of my own life, so far. But when I look at how Time and God treat some of the other people in the world, that “cruel to be kind” justification seems to fall apart. I’m not sure what “kindness” was involved in their treatment of my baby brother, for example. He’s just dead, now, and it’s not like he can learn any lessons from getting killed, or anything.

I don’t know. Maybe if you’ve had a wonderful spiritual experience where you learn that “there is no death there is no death” – and you become convinced that “all shall be well and all manner of thing shall be well” – then things look different.

Have you read Candide? At the end of the book…Candide: “Why does God allow all these terrible things to happen???” The Sufi: “When the Sultan sends his ships out to sea, does he worry about whether the rats in the cellar are comfortable?”

So, yeah, Mr. Drummond, Ms. Emin, yawn/undo… yeah, God’s a fucking cunt.

…Sometimes, though, my attitude is more influenced by Buddha’s parable about the arrow stuck in your chest – no point in asking where it came from, why it’s there, calling God names…first thing to do is get the damn thing out. That’s if I can drag myself away from those pornographic comics for long enough. (In Candide, the Sufi first responded to Candide’s question by asking “Why are you even thinking about this?” I guess he had the same idea as Buddha?)

Who knows, fingers crossed, maybe it'll turn out in the end that God's a cunt in the other, nicer, sense of the word.

Is this thread-rot? I don’t honestly think it is – but yell at me if you want me to shut up.

And welcome back, yawn – I missed you! Hearing someone enthuse about something I also love gives me a major buzz, for some reason. And you enthuse very well.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
07:50 / 09.10.02
-blushes-

thanks, evil!
 
  

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