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ZOMBIES!!!!

 
  

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higuita
18:46 / 03.10.02
I do have this nice old pulp horror novel - New english Library - 35p UK cover price. It's called

ZOMBIE

How could you not spend 30p of your money when you espy that on the shelves of a rag market stall?

'As the voodoo drums throbbed their ancient, evil rhythms strange figures emerged from the graveyeards, figures that still bore about themthe musty scent of the tomb. The undead were walking again; soulless mindless bodies that rotted as they walke tothe bidding of the man called Doctor Samedi, chief houngan of the dark cult'

Marvellous. written by errol lecale.

On the minus side, there's not much flesh munching - they're not that sort of zombies. Sometimes, I can't watch zombie films without thinking of that bog-awful Michael Jackson video. Bastard.

Anyone interested in writing something about zombie pirates?
 
 
grant
19:16 / 03.10.02
You mean like John Carpenter's "THE FOG"?
 
 
Murray Hamhandler
20:35 / 03.10.02
No, like zombies who pillage and burgle human brains from other zombies. They're a precious commodity in this new world, they are. The zombie pirates travel from town to town in a parade float. I don't know why.

I need to go home now.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
09:06 / 04.10.02
I'm still in the middle of my Cthulhu/pirate epic... no zombies as yet, though.
 
 
rizla mission
10:55 / 04.10.02
Anyone interested in writing something about zombie pirates?

Now .. let me just think about that for a minute. Hmm.. I'm really not sure..

I mean, I mean, DUDE!!, ask a silly question..

that's 'yes' by the way.

I think Coleridge beat us to it though, with all that Ancient Mariner business..
 
 
Tryphena Absent
11:04 / 04.10.02
Will they rise from the sea bed in the dead of night called by a necromancer? Cutlasses in hand and gunge oozing out of their eye sockets?
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
11:15 / 04.10.02
I know it's been a while since I read The Rime of the Ancient mariner, but I really don't recall a verse about the dead sailors eating people's brains.
 
 
rizla mission
13:36 / 04.10.02
Will they rise from the sea bed in the dead of night called by a necromancer? Cutlasses in hand and gunge oozing out of their eye sockets?

Fingers crossed.

My dad used to read bits of The Rime of the Ancient Mariner when I was small, and I specifically remember a sunken galleon rising from beneath the waves crewed by the animated corpses of drowned sailors.. which I reckon is close enough.

Or at least, if that isn't in the poem I've got problems..
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
13:39 / 04.10.02
Uhh... actually the galleon didn't sink, it got becalmed and everyone died of thirst except the Ancient Mariner. There were dead reanimated sailors tho'. Just not drowned ones.
 
 
rizla mission
13:53 / 04.10.02
Oops. Well, um, as I say, close enough..
 
 
Tryphena Absent
14:19 / 04.10.02
Huh. I prefer my version.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
14:37 / 04.10.02
There would have been drowned ones... it was just Coleridge was like "hey, man, I've just done a bunch of laudanum... zombie sailors? Whoah, you're doing my head in..."

Fucking lightweight.
 
 
grant
17:12 / 04.10.02
No, no, no - the *zombie* ship comes up to the *becalmed* ship, and the Mariner sees two figures playing dice: Death and Life-In-Death.
Death wins the crew, Life-In-Death wins the Mariner.

It occurs to be that a ghost ship would be pretty cool, but a zombie ship would have... an odor.

Here:
The Spectre-Woman and her Death-mate, and no other on board the skeleton ship.

And those her ribs through which the Sun
Did peer, as through a grate ?
And is that Woman all her crew ?
Is that a DEATH ? and are there two ?
Is DEATH that woman's mate ?

Like vessel, like crew !

Her lips were red, her looks were free,
Her locks were yellow as gold :
Her skin was as white as leprosy,
The Night-mare LIFE-IN-DEATH was she,
Who thicks man's blood with cold.

Death and Life-in-Death have diced for the ship's crew, and she (the latter) winneth the ancient Mariner.

The naked hulk alongside came,
And the twain were casting dice ;
`The game is done ! I've won ! I've won !'
Quoth she, and whistles thrice.


So all the crew falls down dead, and he hears their souls leave their bodies like a bolt from a crossbow.
And then, after seven days of staring at the corpses on the deck, the Mariner blesses some seasnakes off the side, the curse of the Albatross is broken, it falls from his neck, and he is overjoyed to see the wind spring up again.

But then:

The bodies of the ship's crew are inspired, and the ship moves on ;

The loud wind never reached the ship,
Yet now the ship moved on !
Beneath the lightning and the Moon
The dead men gave a groan.
They groaned, they stirred, they all uprose,
Nor spake, nor moved their eyes ;
It had been strange, even in a dream,
To have seen those dead men rise.

The helmsman steered, the ship moved on ;
Yet never a breeze up-blew ;
The mariners all 'gan work the ropes,
Where they were wont to do ;
They raised their limbs like lifeless tools--
We were a ghastly crew.

The body of my brother's son
Stood by me, knee to knee :
The body and I pulled at one rope,
But he said nought to me.

But not by the souls of the men, nor by dæmons of earth or middle air, but by a blessed troop of angelic spirits, sent down by the invocation of the guardian saint.

`I fear thee, ancient Mariner !'
Be calm, thou Wedding-Guest !
'Twas not those souls that fled in pain,
Which to their corses came again,
But a troop of spirits blest :
For when it dawned--they dropped their arms,
And clustered round the mast ;
Sweet sounds rose slowly through their mouths,
And from their bodies passed.


So there are really two ships manned by... the UNDEAD.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
10:11 / 05.10.02
Leaving the way open for a sequel... canny geezer, that Coleridge. (For a lightweight).
 
 
The resistable rise of Reidcourchie
14:12 / 05.10.02
Zombies terrify me. I don't know why and I keep watching the films. I had a nightmare about them again night before last. It's something to do with the rlentless pursuit and perhaps a small fear of crowds.

28 days, is that Danny Cannon directing?

I'd definitly like to see any Zombie or indeed Cthulu pirate crossovers, that sounds cool.

RPGs mentioned briefly in this thread, in just over a week I'll be running a steampunk, wild west zombie-a-thon, that I'm writing at the moment.
 
 
higuita
15:34 / 06.10.02
I suspect, unfortunately, that you won't be running that online. Dammit. Do me a favour and have one of the zombies bite someone for me.

On a side point, if a zombie ninja like, totally flipped out, would it keep all it's limbs?
 
 
grant
18:25 / 29.10.02
I will eat all of your brains.

all of them. yum.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
20:36 / 29.10.02
grant... I love you. You brain-eating bastard.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
21:17 / 29.10.02
I was going to try and feed you false brain, but was sussed:

graaant tried to eat your brain, but your brain has already been eaten.

You stare blankly at one another for a few moments, then lurch off in separate directions.
 
 
Pepsi Max
15:18 / 30.10.02
At the risk of stating the obvious, brain eating and transmissable diseases are quite high in the public mind after the BSE/CJD cases of the last decade or more.

Some reasons why zombies are scary:
- zombies are the normal made alien.
- they do tap into Western fears about being overwhelmed - e.g. protests against immigration.
- they are not rational, they're primal/animal yet still contain traces of their human origin.
- they're about losing control. And most people of wary of that.

They're not as literary and poncey as vampires. You wouldn't catch a zombie looking like Tom Cruise in a wig for instance.

But there is some crossover. From Dusk Til Dawn is really more of a zombie movie than a vampire one.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
15:25 / 30.10.02
Don't really have much to add.. but I'd just like to say once more, I love zombies. They fucking rock. Like bastards.
 
 
deja_vroom
15:28 / 30.10.02
I'm still in the middle of my Cthulhu/pirate epic... no zombies as yet, though.

Let me read it. Let me read it NOW. Let me read it. Let me read it NOW. Let me read it. Let me read it NOW. Let me read it. Let me read it NOW. Let me read it. Let me read it NOW.
 
 
grant
16:57 / 06.01.03
Stacy isn't as good as it sounds, they say.

Which is a pity.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
18:09 / 06.01.03
I don't have much to add either, but I would like to nail my colours once more to the Zombies Just Rock mast. They lurch, they shamble, they eat the annoying characters first. Zombies rock like a Weeble with haemerrhoids.
 
 
lord nuneaton savage
20:24 / 06.01.03
Hello all, did anyone see that Peter o' Toole film "the ruling classes" where he's in the house of lords and he hallucinates them all as cobwebby undead types? That was sweet. Zombies kick vampires asses, they would'nt have a chance, nothing to suck. (Thats the zombie vs vampire film finished anyway, it's a mini adventure).
 
 
rizla mission
10:11 / 07.01.03
Stacy isn't as good as it sounds, they say.

Which is a pity.


I think that reviewer's lying.

Just look at the screenshots, read the synopsis of the plot. It's an actual impossibility for that film to not be great.
 
 
rizla mission
10:41 / 07.01.03
Which reminds me: I have to see 'Wild Zero' before I die..
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
03:19 / 27.04.03
Two zombie movies this summer, the sequel to Resident Evil is starting up, and yet still no decent zombie novels.

I wonder if we can contribute to George Romero to get him working on Twilight of the Dead faster...
 
 
moriarty
06:12 / 27.04.03
How appropriate.

The thread that will not stay buried.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
23:31 / 27.04.03
YAY! The Zombie thread (one of my favourite EVER) still exists!

Did I mention that zombies rock? Especially when your Sims' recalcitrant daughter turns into one...
 
 
moriarty
17:18 / 02.06.03
I work at a video store now, and I kept passing by Children of the Living Dead in the horror section. I had red the reviews. I knew it was bad. And yet, I could not resist.

My name is Moriarty. And I'm a zombiholic.
 
 
grant
18:18 / 02.06.03
A friend of mine gave me a thing he found on the net by the director of that film explaining, point by point, why it sucked so bad, and why he really should have backed out of the project earlier (as in, before the writer - who was also the producer's daughter - took his final cut and had it re-edited back into nonsensicality).

It's a great piece of writing about film. Can't remember his name or where my friend came across it, but I think it was in reply to someone ragging on the film in an IMDB review.
 
 
moriarty
18:41 / 02.06.03
The Director's Letter of Apology

Wow. Even I didn't think it was that bad. This explains alot. For instance, there's a scene where the two romantic leads go out on their first date. They drive up to the cemetery that the male lead is paving over to make a car dealership, and the female lead seems unimpressed with his choice of locales. This wouldn't be too awful, except it shows them walking to the gates of the cemetery and jump-cuts to another scene. We never actually see them enter the cemetery. The next time we see the two leads, they're at home getting ready for their next date. Guess the graveyard date went well.

In his apology, the director of Children of the Living Dead explains.

"Then to cover the endless plotholes and the lack of structure she added the looped dialogue in ways which as you noted are laughably absurd. For example --- the first date you see in the film where Matthew takes Laurie to the construction site (the cemetery) was originally shot as the final scene in the movie when Matthew takes Laurie to overlook his shattered dreams. When it was brought up that there wasn't enough character development in the relationship between Laurie and Matthew they added in the ridiculous dialogue you heard and tried to make it look like a first date."

Oh boy. The apology is far more entertaining than the movie.
 
 
moriarty
18:42 / 02.06.03
Thanks, Grant!
 
 
waxy dan
07:49 / 03.06.03
Zombies always did, and always will, scare me witless. It's the complete degradation of the person they were.

And the chainsaws.

I think zombies eat brains to "stop the pain of being dead" (ala Return of the Living Dead"), and I think when zombies rule the earth, you just wait them out til they fall apart, and maybe domesticate a few into being useful household appliances, and then run in fear of the zombie alligators (ala Day of the Dead).

And who'd win in a fight Darth Vadar or a shit load of zombies?
 
  

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