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The Filth #3

 
  

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Graeme McMillan
21:01 / 14.08.02
Wow.

I can't really explain why, but for some reason this issue makes me feel like the entire story, once it's over, is going to be the most emotionally honest thing Grant has ever written, despite the garish outfits and jargon. Perhaps connected to that, does anyone else feel like he's killing off lots of his old fascinations here?

And it was nice to see Yawn appear as one of the characters, as well.
 
 
houdini
23:50 / 14.08.02
That rocked. This was a much more intriguing issue for me than its two predecessors. Nice to see the insanely out there Flex Mentallo stuff make its way in now. The references to Doom Patrol stuff were good too.

I think you could be onto something, Smile. It sure seems as if GM is drawing all the threads of previous materials together. There's the whole Animal Man "we live in a comic book" thing. There's the struggle against oppression and the Invisibles-stylee psychic weirdness. Hyperstructures. Metarealities. It's kind of comforting, really.

And so is the bleeding heart compassion. Morrisson is very good at writing these desperate, pathetic caregiving characters and at letting the rest of his creation mock them while we still feel sorry for them. That's a trick that goes back as far as Zenith, at least. Yeah. This issue made me way happy.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
07:48 / 15.08.02
canny wait!
 
 
The Natural Way
10:57 / 15.08.02
Mmmm, yes, best so far.

Yeah. threads. Missed the dead cat one though, guys. One of Grant's favourites....

Liked the stuff about wildlife docu....I mean lion porn.

Loved the splash page.

And, yeah, the pathos...
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
11:50 / 15.08.02
just flicked through the rag which is now in my bag with a bumper crop (100%, kev, nxm, ults + filth) which I shall peruse tonight with a cone of chronic to smoke.

looks great. I can feel the compassion and melancholia wafting out its pages. And glaswegian supra-hero/villains are always welcome.

yknow, if x-statix was out today as well it might have been all a bit much.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
15:49 / 15.08.02
So, The Hand exists in a space outside both the paperverse and the Greg Feely universe? They're obviously two different realities; paperverse bright, colourful and fantastic, Feelyverse dull, dirty and mundane. The only hint of something shiny and new is the butterfly Barney's playing with. Maybe the Earth that saw the creation of the bonsai planet belongs to anyther one still.

The Hand regulating a number of different universes? Makes that Indigo Prime scent a bit more pongy.

does anyone else feel like he's killing off lots of his old fascinations here?

I hope so. There's only so many Coyote Gospel retreads / "Goodbye, [whatever], you were a good wee cat," scenes you can get away with in one career.

Cameron = Mirror Master.
 
 
CameronStewart
16:20 / 15.08.02
Cameron is the woman with the short black hair, I'm presuming? When I saw chappy with his spiky red hair and sideburns I grew even more thrillingly convinced that he was my comics doppleganger, but then I realized that he wasn't Cameron Spector.

Bah.
 
 
Jack Fear
16:34 / 15.08.02
Who, this guy?
 
 
Spatula Clarke
16:51 / 15.08.02
That's the guy. Cameron's his female partner-in-batsuit.
 
 
CameronStewart
16:51 / 15.08.02
Not sure if that's the same guy or not - the one I'm referring to is one of the two bat-suited intruders into the paperverse at the start of ish 3. Could be the same, but the hair is far more extreme in that sketch.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
17:00 / 15.08.02
Harlotte calls him 'Mercury' a couple of times - yr man up above is 'Moog Mercury'.
 
 
Jack Fear
17:05 / 15.08.02
I like the "Cronenberg tech" note in that sketch... although to be truly Cronenbergian, the toothy mouths on those garbage trucks would be covered in gooey slobber.

eXistenZ = gooiest movie ever.
 
 
hypersimulation
17:27 / 15.08.02
Harlotte also calls Bi-Guy 'Moogie' once.
 
 
Mr Tricks
18:03 / 15.08.02
Wow. indeed an exquisit read... Almost wish there was a Pop-up book version just to see those two characters "jumping" off of the page..
 
 
Ganesh
18:54 / 15.08.02
Hehehehh... 'Harlotte Church'...
 
 
NotBlue
19:59 / 15.08.02
Fur fucksaek stoap dain the galasweigien onoematopoeiacic Moz every fuckin' time , "ya cunt!", otherwise, l;atter half far better. He thinks it's the man himself??????


Write another story, you know you have it in you.

If anyone needs translation, just ask.
 
 
NotBlue
20:02 / 15.08.02
Yawn, m'dear boy, you realy dont cringe at "looks great. I can feel the compassion and melancholia wafting out its pages. And glaswegian supra-hero/villains are always welcome. ", EVERY FUCKING TIME???,


Always Hits me hard.

Probably 'cos that sound always gets my guard up.
 
 
The Natural Way
21:01 / 15.08.02
Well crackcomics didn't last very long, did it?

Does anyone else find the bald guy's complete inability to maintain a site a tad depressing?
 
 
houdini
05:19 / 16.08.02
C'moan Doonkin. Snaesae baad.

Hoots mon, crivvens, jings! Whit aboot a revisionist Morrisson version of Oor Wullie?

"Heir, Fat Boab, yir kindae hyper-dye-minshoanal, likesay."
"Pure, Wullie. Ye ken yir bucket thir's a whoal metayoonivurse untae itself...?"
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
07:59 / 16.08.02
Any ref to Glasgow in a DC comic fills me with pride Duncan – I’m one of those west-coasters who thinks Strathclyde is the best ‘bit’ in the universe – and Glasgow is one of the top fictional cities to wear. It’s such an inspiring shitty vain dishonest but totally gallus place and the chat is quite funny.

On the other hand, I can sympathise with your concerns.

But it’s the thought of some wee knobster in west Virginia or Texas or whatever reading the Glasgow brogue out aloud in order to understand it that really tickles my deep fried sense of humour.

Fuckin ink drag. Cumoan!

And by the way – this ish was scrotnig.

Love those inksects – and I’m telling you all – get strange days 1-3 to see where the lunacy of the ink-crab crew originated.

Luvvin it.

And he is letting go.

ps: guaranteed that butterfly was the powering a quantum computer – its seen next to the words ‘I wish something great would happen’.

Don’t worry stoner cunt – the butterfly will flap its wings and something will happen.
Insects and small things really do run the show don’t they?

As each issue rolls in, the parallels with the invisibles become clearer and clearer. I got such a strong sense of Vo. 2 Ish 6 when King Mob visits Jacqui in the ‘real’ world.
 
 
Ellis says:
08:42 / 16.08.02
So why were the ink-suit people there (in the paper verse) in the first place? Or do we find that out next issue?

Really good issue though.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
08:52 / 16.08.02
It amazes me that after he and others have done the "comics/reality! comics/reality! comics/reality!" thing so many times over, Grant Morrison can do it again, and still squeeze out some new ideas and pathos. Or is it bathos?

"I keep thinking I'll find a way to save us all.

Then I just waste another five hours checking out sleazy hardcore comix."

I also thought monkeys in comics were played out but I'm growing very fond of this one. Loved the rant about Handsome Ham, 'The John Glenn of the apes':

"Did that privileged capitalist shit ever have to drive a tractor?"
 
 
The Natural Way
08:56 / 16.08.02
Just love the four colour fluid dripping off the crabship. This ish confirms my suspicions about Grant's Ultimate Galacti and their "sink-suits".
 
 
Sax
09:03 / 16.08.02
Gave this the once-over last night. Fucking ace. My critical faculties have deserted me. Need to make notes as I'm reading it. Sorry.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
09:11 / 16.08.02
Ellis> The ink-suiters seem to be to the paperverse what Le Pen is to the Feelyverse, difference being that while events in the paperverse are already written ("..Mercury's files... the sideways lives he'd written for us to live...") in the Feelyverse there's still an element of freedom to decide your own path. Le Pen doesn't write the future so much as alter the present, rubbing over things that the Hand want changed as and when they occur.

Each controls one 'end' of time: Moog Mercury writes the future, Le Pen rewrites the past.

There's ink droplets on Cameron's feet as she flies out of the panels, too.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
11:27 / 16.08.02
I thought it was all right, but am increasingly concerned that, although his dialogue and page breakdowns are a lot better than anyone else working for the mainstream I can think of offhand, he really does only have about four ideas. To wit.

i) Hey, what if the universe being depicted in this comic were itself a universe inside a comic?

2) Hey, what if there were hidden forces inspiring people to put on ridiculous outfits which somehow have far more integrity than the superhero costumes they so closely resemble and pursue shadowy aims for the future of the various universes?

3) Hey, what if a Joe Normal, previously unaware of these cosmic goings-on, somehow became pivotal to their conduct?

and, of course,

4) Hey, what if somebody shaved their head and immediately got all the best lines?

I'm only surprised that Batman got away with a full head of hair...thank God for editorial interference.
 
 
Sax
11:29 / 16.08.02
Didn't Miller already shave Bruce's bonce?
 
 
The Natural Way
11:45 / 16.08.02
Yeah, those ARE the 4 core ideas, but it's the little sub-ideas from raising the "ontological resolution" to tiny mouth-born canary UFO's that make Morrison's stuff so sweet.

It's the way he tells 'em.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
11:59 / 16.08.02
yoss.

if you have one good idea in your life then:

give yersel a pat on the back.

and then sell it. (the idea, not your back)
 
 
Spatula Clarke
12:22 / 16.08.02
Anyone got any idea what significance the ant's got? I keep thinking 'myrmidons'.

One other q - what's going on on page 15, panel 1? Who's doing the talking ("This one couldn't be more than ten years old...") ?

Know exactly what you mean, Tann, but if we're looking at Filth as a 13-issue condensing of themes GM's explored throughout his comics then repetition's unavoidable.

That said, I always thought Flex Mentallo was meant to be a summing up, 'Grant Morrison - the story so far' deal.
 
 
The Natural Way
12:42 / 16.08.02
No, Flex Mentallo was a summoning.
 
 
DaveBCooper
13:21 / 16.08.02
No deep observations, but that line from Secret Original about the kid trapped in a chat room reminded me of the Brasseye Special about a child getting trapped online and being 2-D (I paraphrase, probably badly) after the event…

But this issue felt more like it. Last two hadn't grabbed me, but this one had teeth. Good stuff.

DBC
 
 
primaeval soup
20:09 / 16.08.02


"what's going on on page 15, panel 1? Who's doing the talking ("This one couldn't be more than ten years old...") ?"

I think those lines are being spoken by Feely’s neighbour (Mrs. Twine, was it?) to her husband, just after getting in the front door – on the previous page she saw a small figure in a child’s jacket being brought by Feely into his home, so she thinks Feely’s a pedophile (and she’s not the only one…those cat-killing kids called him a pedophile, and a woman told her child to “stop looking at that man – he’s not nice”). Later Mrs. Twine spies Feely burying a small box in the garden and giving some kind of ritual speech over the grave… My guess is she now thinks Feely is a pedophile Satanist.

But are those lines just “lagging” from the previous page, or is “Secret Original” listening to them through that earpiece thing?

Also…
“Secret Orignal” = Superman – in the “real” world – i.e. Christopher Reeve, his body broken, confined to a wheelchair.
“S.O.” potters about, a cripple voyeur, getting his kicks by watching the lives of others play out before him in screens of boxes/frames, like Christopher Reeve in the Rear Window remake.
Of the many excitements and delights offered by Rear Window (or at least by Hitchcock’s version), I especially enjoy the scenes of people “crossing-over” from the everyday world into the Spectacle, and vice-versa. The Filth (and Grant Morrison comics in general) offer similar delights, of course!
 
 
Ganesh
20:15 / 16.08.02
Mrs Twine also eavesdrops through the wall...

I thought of 'S.O.' as a sort of Christopher Reeve / Stephen Hawking hybrid. I assume his 'injuries' were caused by the transition from 2D to 3D? I love the way he still talks in overly melodramatic comic-book cliches and even his speech balloons are rather shakily-drawn.
 
 
Sax
20:21 / 16.08.02
Chances are Slade is going to be forced into fleeing the Feely persona as a result of some kind of "podiophile" (love that) witch-hunt...

And I'd guess S.O. is listening to Mrs Twine's words as they're keeping tabs on Slade.
 
  

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