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sleazenation
08:29 / 27.03.02
So, Tom said a lot of the functionality on this site would be paired down initially and slowly streamed up. So the question is, what bits of functionality currently missing from this version of the site would people most like to see?
 
 
Tom Coates
08:35 / 27.03.02
This could be a really useful thread, but don't get too ambitious! We're just relaxing after the first burst of action!
 
 
Spatula Clarke
08:48 / 27.03.02
I miss the icon showing that a topic has been active since your last visit.
 
 
Ariadne
08:49 / 27.03.02
I may be missing something obvious, but do we have to know the html for italics, quotes, url links and so on? or will there soon be buttons like before? or are they there and I just haven't spotted them?
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
08:57 / 27.03.02
The only three things from the old site that I'd like to see here are the 'previous/next' buttons on threads, the drop-down forum menu and, especially, the Today's Active Topics page. Just for reasons of navigation.

Other than that, might as well say here that I like the new look...
 
 
Trijhaos
09:01 / 27.03.02
How about some little buttons for things like making things bold and quoting other people and the like? If not buttons how about a little mini-faq detailing what we would need to type?
 
 
sleazenation
09:09 / 27.03.02
Yes i agree with flyboy about the today's active topic function, having only really discovered it in the past few days...- the active topic 'shout' positions don't currently include time of last posting- making it difficult to know if anyone has replied to your hot thread recently or not...

Of course these things may not be important, but they are things i miss...
 
 
Fist Fun
09:41 / 27.03.02
I'd like to edit my posts for typos. Although that is probly incompatible with 'anti-taking back what you said' technology. Fair enough.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
10:14 / 27.03.02
Are we going to be able to view the Topic Abstract anywhere other than just when we post replies? The mysterious 'Column 2', perhaps?
 
 
MJ-12
10:24 / 27.03.02
an about/help/functional FAQ would help
 
 
Steve Block
10:33 / 27.03.02
The drop down menu and the bit where you could set it to show only threads from the last however often, and the new posts icon thing. I liked those.
 
 
deja_vroom
10:45 / 27.03.02
mmm... the "ignore" button idea was discarded?
 
 
Spatula Clarke
11:09 / 27.03.02
No, it's there. Click on my name, for example, and you'll be taken to my profile. From there you can choose to ignore my posts for a week.
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
11:20 / 27.03.02
I'd quite like the return of the 'See all topics from the last x days' function.

And a balloon. I wanna balloon.

Anna spaceship...
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
11:40 / 27.03.02
I think it would be good if we could review a topic while we're replying to it (this used to be there on the old board) - at the moment you can only see the last five posts or so in a thread and I think I've just caused an unnecessary argument in the policy partly becasue I couldn't see all the previous replies while I was posting...
 
 
Tom Coates
12:20 / 27.03.02
It occurred to us when we were building the site that the READING of the thread should probably be the first process you do BEFORE clicking reply and that the stuff under the thread should be just context building - 'where am i again?!' stuff.
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
12:35 / 27.03.02
Well, yes, one does read the thread before replying... but I, personally, don't always construct my response completely before clicking on 'reply', and I often find it useful to be able to refer back to who said what, exactly, while I am responding - especially when the thread is long and complex.
 
 
deja_vroom
13:18 / 27.03.02
(clicks the "ignore" option)

Aaahh... the board looks much better now.
 
 
Ierne
13:19 / 27.03.02
My web-fu is wack. It seems that [B]bold[/B] and [I]italic[/I] isn't happening for me. Is there another way to do it?
 
 
deja_vroom
13:19 / 27.03.02
Oh, btw, the Conversation and the Policy&Help Forums aren't displaying the three or four most recent threads...
 
 
deja_vroom
13:21 / 27.03.02
Ierne, don't use "[]", use "<>". Sorry if this is what you meant firstly.
 
 
pointless and uncalled for
13:25 / 27.03.02
I'll second KK's motion there.

This also ties in with the new/recently updated threads indication.

As a poster who only posts at work I will often come in to find that a number of threads in which I am involved have been responded to and often with more than five posts. Now on many threads full review is not required but on complex and hot issues such as those that populate Switchboard/Headshop then there may be several points that I need to address and from different people and would like to be constantly reviewing the responses, comments and takedowns that are afford my opinions on these subjects.

I know that quite often I will make a fool of myself but I'd prefer to do it with some degree of accuracy.

As for the thread indication, it's a matter of saving time more than anything else.
 
 
w1rebaby
13:35 / 27.03.02
I third it.

Often when I'm replying I drift off at a tangent and start saying something entirely different, and I like to be able to check whether anyone else has covered it or touched on it, which I may not have been looking for when I first read the thread.

who can remember every detail of every post in a thread of any length anyway?

Incidentally, displaying the abstract for a thread in the forum display would be handy, and an easier way of skipping between forums than going to the main list (a la the pulldown menu that used to be at the bottom).
 
 
w1rebaby
14:19 / 27.03.02
"last person to post on thread"

v useful for checking whether someone's replied to what you posted yet
 
 
Spatula Clarke
16:19 / 27.03.02
Links don't open up in a new window any more. Can we have that back again?
 
 
Tom Coates
16:49 / 27.03.02
Could I point out to people that while we're quite happy to bring some of the old functionality back into the board, we're much more interested in taking it further into newness and excitement.

Plus - if you really want to review the thread in its entirety, then OPEN ANOTHER COPY IN ANOTHER WINDOW! Bear in mind that having the whole damn thing displayed below is a completely arbitrary waste of bandwidth when only a few people will be using it and in pretty exceptional circumstances...
 
 
Ierne
18:34 / 27.03.02
Thanks for the info on bold and italic, peeps.

another question: Does the ignore button extend to PMs as well?
 
 
Lionheart
18:49 / 27.03.02
And how would one un-ignore people which one ignored?
 
 
Wrecks City-Zen
18:53 / 27.03.02
Oh...
 
 
Spatula Clarke
19:24 / 27.03.02
Lionheart> You'd have to wait a week, I presume. Seems a fairly effective way of ensuring that the feature's not used willy-nilly.
 
 
deja_vroom
19:30 / 27.03.02
Actualy, there is an option "stop ignoring person now" on your profile.

(God, I feel all moderatey!)
 
 
Mystery Gypt
05:08 / 28.03.02
i don't know tom... if lots of people on the board are saying that something is really useful when it comes to making practical, informed, and useful responses, it seems a little ill-considered to explain away the change by simply referring to "newness". presumably, the board is different now because you want it to be smarter / build better communities / aspire to higher greatness -- and as such, shouldn't changes be in the spirit of these goals and not arbitrary?

i mean, you've done an incredibly great job, but please don't assume we all understand why you've made some changes until you explain it clearly. unless obfuscation is part of your plan, which, of course, it could be.

personally, i've felt that the "today's active topics" button, the "quote post" button, the email notification, and the ability to see all of a thread while replying have made for me a very efficient barbelith that allows the highest quality of interaction with the community and intellectual engagement with the threads specifically and the board as a whole. can we at least, in the spirit of barbelith, debate these changes and the presumably well-thought out reasons for them? i don't mean to be saying think the changes are wrong, but i do want to come to understand how they make the boards potential stronger.
 
 
Tom Coates
05:37 / 28.03.02
personally, i've felt that the "today's active topics" button, the "quote post" button, the email notification, and the ability to see all of a thread while replying have made for me a very efficient barbelith that allows the highest quality of interaction with the community and intellectual engagement with the threads specifically and the board as a whole. can we at least, in the spirit of barbelith, debate these changes and the presumably well-thought out reasons for them? i don't mean to be saying think the changes are wrong, but i do want to come to understand how they make the boards potential stronger.

Ok - let's start at the beginning. SOME of the changes to the board are NOT designed to make everyone's lives easier. In fact quite the opposite - some of the changes are designed to put in brakes, to help encourage people to post in the spirit of the board rather than in the easiest way possible. This is why - for example - there aren't immediate updated links for the Conversation and Policy on the front page - we're attempting to encourage people not to immediately flock to the easy conversations. This may or may not work, but it HAS BEEN THOUGHT THROUGH. If it doesn't work we will change it, but we won't change it without seeing if it does work. This is experimental community building we're doing here, we have to have the space for some mistakes.

The 'Today's Active Topics' button again encourages people to respond VERY quickly to a thread - and it does have its benefits as well, which is a rapid sense of what's going on around the board - but this incredibly quick replying mechanism may be a bad thing for the level of conversation. So removing it was designed to act as some kind of a brake. I'm not saying that we don't need something like it, because we clearly do, but we need to think about what kind of process might be more useful. Would it be MORE useful to be able to keep track of threads that YOU'VE contributed to, or that you think are particularly INTERESTING rather than all of them? Would that keep them more on track?

Finally the topic review thing. This one I have to take exception to. Loading up the whole topic again seems to be a completely unnecessary waste of bandwidth for most replies - and I simply do not see why people can't open another window and read in one while typing in the other if they need to see the whole thing in front of them... The current model provides easy context on exactly the part of the conversation you're involved in - it's close to the top of the page so you don't have to scroll all around the place to see who you're replying to etc. I really don't see the problem.

My comment is not that there aren't things from the old board that couldn't be useful, simply that I can't help thinking that it would be better and more interesting if rather than just recapitulate these old ideas, we all thought of ways we could reintroduce their functionality BUT MAKE IT BETTER! MORE USEFUL! That's all!
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
07:07 / 28.03.02
I suppose what you say about opening the thread is fair enough, actually, especially since that's all the old baord did anyway. Automating processes makes us lazy?
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
10:18 / 28.03.02
One thing I think is vital, though, is that links in posts should spawn a new window. It's essential when reading theory-heavy threads, or news items because it allows you to have the reference in one window, without farting around with extra keys.

Yes, it might be laziness, but I think it helped a lot on the old board.
 
  

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