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New X-Men #122

 
  

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Captain Zoom
13:10 / 13.02.02
Ya-fucking-hoo.
It is a Quitely, right? Please tell me that this is the Imperial one with the gorgeous art? I know I own a comic store, but I'm a lazy fucker. Tell me tellmetellmeeeeee!

Zoom.

[ 15-02-2002: Message edited by: Captain Zoom ]
 
 
The Natural Way
13:16 / 13.02.02
Yes, it's the Imperial one.
 
 
Captain Zoom
13:33 / 13.02.02
Ahhhhh, I just got it in. Fuck receiving the order. I'm gonna read it right now.

Zoom.
 
 
Captain Zoom
13:42 / 13.02.02
Holy fucking shit.
I am tearing in excitement.
This was the best issue yet.

Zoom.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
13:56 / 13.02.02
I'm a spoiler-addict: tell me what happens...
 
 
lentil
13:57 / 13.02.02
oooh you fuckers! i don't have a spare penny for comics until next friday! MUMMY I WANT IT NOW! they'd better not sell out......
 
 
lentil
13:58 / 13.02.02
meaning 'run out of issues', not 'betray their underground roots', obviously.
 
 
Captain Zoom
14:20 / 13.02.02
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Just a few tastes for Flyboy.

Emma: Anyone still wishing to complain to Mr. Logan about injuries sustained during yesterday's field expedition will, I'm afraid, be completely wasting his or her time.

Smasher: And there's Charles Xavier...with the immensity around him and within him.

(And wait til you see that!)

And Xorn.

Oh, and Frank, you beautiful artist you. Why can't everything be as lovely. Sorry, I can't bring myself to say any more. You will love it.

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Regrettable Juvenilia
14:26 / 13.02.02
Zoom, do you ever look around the threads already in the comics forum before posting? Not having a go, just curious.
 
 
Captain Zoom
14:39 / 13.02.02
(embarrassedly remembers lennox's thread and shuffles off, kicking his feet in the dirt.)

(zoom.)
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
14:49 / 13.02.02
It's all right! Come back! Redemption can be yours: just be a good citizen and tell me exactly what happens in the comic...
 
 
Persephone
14:54 / 13.02.02
quote:Originally posted by Lentil [Must Chew]:
meaning 'run out of issues', not 'betray their underground roots', obviously.


LOL!

<looks around>

Goodness, I'm in the Comics forum...
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
23:47 / 13.02.02
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Okay, this is the synopsis:

The issue starts off with a Shi'Ar ship containing Empress Lilandra and her Imperial Guardians racing to Earth in an attempt to warn the X-Men and the rest of the planet of the coming Shi'Ar warships - but Cassandra manages to stop them - a Guardsman called Smasher is sent by Lilandra to fly to earth on his own to warn them. Cassandra destroys the ship.

At the school, Emma announces the new student dictated 'ciriculum' to the students. Jean and Scott discuss these changes, and have a brief philosophical debate - Scott defends his beliefs, but is ultimately shot down by Jean, who believes he is being insensitive and not thinking of the Professor, who is dying. The group have a meeting in which the Cassandra situation is discussed.

Henry explains that Charles managed to get into his mind while he was in a coma and commandeered his body to go to the morgue and alert the others that he was inside of Cassandra's body.

Jean explains that Cassandra trapped Charles inside of her brain's right hemisphere, and that she and Emma brought him back to awareness.

It is then explained that Cassandra was born without a body, and that Charles was never aware of her existence. She is a being of living emotional energy, and that in her mind, the entire universe is the womb, and only her and Charles exist. Her motive is to kill Charles for the mastery of the universe that she perceives. All of the events since 114 are explained as being parts of her plan to soften up the X-Men before she comes to deliver the deathblow with the Shi'Ar fleet.

Making matters worse, Cassandra has booby-trapped her own body with a motor-neuron disease (could that be what she injected herself with in 115?), and Charles will be a vegetable within four days, and dead by the end of the week. Charles has instructed Jean to meet with the world's media to announce his Mutant Rights Charter. Scott heads off to Tibet to find Xorn, who apparently has healing powers.

Henry and Jean have an emotional conversation, Henry is terrified of Cassandra and she has exacerbated his depression - Jean consoles him, and he gets back to work on trying to save Charles.

Finally, Smasher falls from the sky into a farm and announces the coming of the Shi'Ar fleet to a bunch of cows.

I think it's the best issue so far, and I think Imperial is going to get a lot better... I'm really excited to see how this plays out. It's a real shame that Frank isn't doing the next three, cos his art really gave this issue a great epic feel...

The one thing that baffled me:

Logan to Jean, with green goo on his hand after touching the Professor on his deathbed:

"What's all that bug stuff on him?"

Jean: "He grew that shell around our own life support system."

Wha-what?

Also, if Cassandra was born with no body, then where the hell did she get the body that Charles is in, that has his own DNA?
 
 
Tamayyurt
02:15 / 14.02.02
Ah, you'll see. (I really don't know but I'm sure we'll find out.)
 
 
sleazenation
07:09 / 14.02.02
A bunch of cows?

Correct me if i'm wrong but didn't the Morrison created Skull Kill Krew disguise themselves as cows? Could they be about to make a come back?
 
 
The Natural Way
07:09 / 14.02.02
She is a being of living emotional energy, and that in her mind, the entire universe is the womb

I told you she was a bloody Archon. Lickle Miss Birth-trauma.

And, of course, the whole idea that she's separate from Charles? Arse. How will they beat her? By (& I quote) "cooperation"....

And that's the "surprise" Grant was banging on about. The goodies won't win w/ fisticuffs - they'll sort it by "healing" (see Xorn) and integration. Setting the tone nicely for Grant's new, less *dialectic*, approach to X evolution.

Groovy.

Oh, and "bug stuff"?

A chrysalis?

I want to talk about nice comic. Everyone put the Knowledge down for a couple of seconds, slap on yr dork hats and get over here!

[ 14-02-2002: Message edited by: Fantastic YOU [I, Runce] ]
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
10:16 / 14.02.02
there truly is only one story.

(at least as far as morrison is concerned)
 
 
The Natural Way
10:21 / 14.02.02
Indeedy.

Sure, he goes for the transcendental narrative bit, but you can never actually be sure what kind of shape it's gonna take. Yeah...the similarity between Cassy and the Archons is enormous, but the ideas in NXM are incredibly condensed and, of course, whilst the integration occured at the end of the Invisibles, here it's just the beginning. Grant's going to do a little bit more utopia mapping this time round.

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Captain Zoom
11:03 / 14.02.02
I just loved the shot of Charlie inside "The Immensity". I mean, if the fucking head of an interstellar empire is calling it The Immensity, it must be pretty crazy.

And didn't they say Cassandra manufactured the body herself? I've not got the issue handy, but I'm sure I remember something.

Skrull Kill Krew occurred to me too. However, the SKK got their powers by eating the Skrulls that were turned into cows. They didn't become them themselves. But the connection is almost too obvious to ignore.

And total agreement about Mr. Quitely needing very much to do the rest of this arc. His Authority run wasn't even this bad. NXM would be a good comic if Frank wasn't involved, but with him on it, it becomes a transcendant book. In the sense of transcending much of the other dross, not necessarily in a metaphysical way.

Ah well. What yo gonna do? Complain and still read the damn thing I suppose.

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Sandfarmer
13:02 / 14.02.02
I agree it is the best issue yet. (Or at least the best since the last.)

Quitely's art is perfect. Its a shame he's leaving (or getting kicked off) the title. Who gives a fuck if it comes out late. His art is perfect. I'll wait for perfection. It was soooo hard to stomach those fill in issues. The art was so weak compared to Quitely's. I fear it will be very painful without him.

Wouldn't it be so great if Morrison could sustain one long run on a title with one great artist? (Howard Porter on JLA does not really count does he? Oh, and what the fuck happened to Howard Porter? Dropped off the face of the Earth didn't he?)
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
13:06 / 14.02.02
quote:Originally posted by Sandfarmer:
Its a shame he's leaving (or getting kicked off) the title.


Where did you hear/read this? If it's Wizard, that's been established as untrue...
 
 
Captain Zoom
13:06 / 14.02.02
He signed an exclusive contract with DC and then they appear to not have given him any work.

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Matthew Fluxington
13:12 / 14.02.02
Yes, Marvel has been saying over and over again that Frank isn't going anywhere, and that Wizard report was in error.

Why *anyone* would take a Wizard report as being good, factual journalism is beyond me...
 
 
sleazenation
13:14 / 14.02.02
or indeed as journalism at all?
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
13:14 / 14.02.02
Hey, why anyone would read Wizard even if it was given away free is beyond me, but the world of comics 'fandom' is a strange and terrifying one...
 
 
Sandfarmer
13:25 / 14.02.02
Oh, I think I had just assumed Marvel would kick him off the comic. Just seems natural. Of course, the "new" Marvel is doing a better job of keeping teams together. I hope you guys are right and Quitely and Morrison stay together for a long run.

I work in a bookstore so I check out the interviews in Wizard on the occasional lunch break. The Comics Journal used to be pretty good but to be honest, lately they have just covered the same comics over and over and they seem to be stuck in the 50's. It would be so cool to have a magazine that featured guys that are doing good work now.

Okay, back to the X-Men talk.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
13:34 / 14.02.02
I have a seemingly lifetime subscription to Wizard, and I honestly have no idea why - I haven't renewed the fucker in at least two years. I had a subscription for the longest time because it was the only comics news I could get, because I never thought to ever look online for that sort of thing. Clearly, this is totally unnecessary now, and when I read the thing (which I do, because it comes in the mail, and hey, why not) I just cringe and feel dirty inside.

Re: Quitely

It seems unlikely that he'll leave anytime soon unless it is his decision, since he is Grant's favorite and is very popular among the fans of the comic. There's a very vocal minority of obnoxious fanboy who hate him and prefer hacks like the Kuberts and Sal Larocca, but they aren't that important.
 
 
sleazenation
13:38 / 14.02.02
Have you tried sequential tart? or borderline? or even ninth art (I can't remember reading any interviews there, but the levels of comics criticism is so far superior to wizard that even mentioning them in the same sentence insults ninth art.)
 
 
sleazenation
13:41 / 14.02.02
And for "rumours" that often turn out to be more accurate than Wizards "journalism" you could do a lot worse than All the rage
 
 
Sandfarmer
13:42 / 14.02.02
The fanboys hate whoever is doing it at the time but buy it anyway. Fuck them. I can't believe how many fanboys flood marvel with anti-X-Force mail and anti-Quitely mail. Morons don't deserve good comics.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
13:49 / 14.02.02
Yes, Sleazenation - I've become very well-versed over the past year or so in what comics journalism/new sources exist online. It's just that for a long time, I didn't have the internet available, and Wizard was it, and then for about two years in college, I pretty much stopped reading comics altogether. The Wizard subscription still kept coming, mostly just so I could get a glimpse of what was going on in the world of comics - and it is no small wonder why I was never inspired to pick anything up in that period of time.

NXM content: I'm still waiting for someone to try to explain why if Cassandra was born with no body, how she came to get a body which is a female version of Charles'...

[ 14-02-2002: Message edited by: Flux = Rad ]
 
 
The Natural Way
13:50 / 14.02.02
Errr...we were talking about X Men, don't know about you....
 
 
sleazenation
14:04 / 14.02.02
Could it be that Cassandra was born inside charles body (ala dark half) and manufactured her body out of his whist he was sleeping etc.
 
 
kid coagulant
14:04 / 14.02.02
This issue is like that first 'lacuna' story in x-force, it's the one that gets me really excited and in to the series. I feel like morrison is starting to hit his stride, that his characters are becoming more distinct.
 
 
sleazenation
14:06 / 14.02.02
Oh and if we are talking reliable print sources of comics journalism, Comics international has been going since 1990, consistantly offering newscoverage and some of the most telling reviews in comics (all written by fans who have to pay for the books they are reading...)
 
  

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