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Alan Moore

 
  

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paw
09:17 / 12.01.02
i'm totally new to this writer. What comics or collections would you recommend? what is his most interesting work(s)?
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
09:23 / 12.01.02
How about this: I'll opt to not tell you what to avoid, but I will tell you this: Watchmen and From Hell is generally considered his two masterworks, and you really can't go wrong with either of them.
 
 
Captain Zoom
09:27 / 12.01.02
If you can find them, his run on Supreme is incredible. Hard to get but well worth it. The Ballad of Halo Jones is also amazing, and recently reprinted in one volume by Titan.

Zoom.
 
 
Robot Man Reformed
09:30 / 12.01.02
His 3-issue Green Goblin miniseries under the pseudonym Roger Stern, with the masterful illustrator Ron Frenz is actually way better than both Watchmen and From Hell combined. The mini was published around 2000, hunt them down, they are great!
 
 
invisible_al
09:41 / 12.01.02
Dr and Quinch's Guide To Life, pure genius with really really big guns.

Also recently reprinted in one volume by Titan. Get it and Halo Jones they're both reasons why 2000AD was good at some stage.

Now all they need to do is bring out the Big Dave tp and I'll be happy...
 
 
Captain Zoom
09:50 / 12.01.02
chOmeO that's just mean. Don't listen.

Zoom.
 
 
Robot Man Reformed
09:50 / 12.01.02
quote:Originally posted by Captain Zoom:
chOmeO that's just mean. Don't listen.

Zoom.



Erhm, sorry and all that, Cap.

(Spoilsport)

 
 
sleazenation
09:50 / 12.01.02
of course there is also V for vendetta and miracleman (good luck finding that)
 
 
ghadis
09:50 / 12.01.02
THis may help you grasshopper

My fave 3 of From Hell, Watchmen and V for Vendetta have already been mentioned...

Also his very under-rated 'Small Killing' is definatly worth a look (from that 'oooh comics as respectable literature' 3 mths in the early 90s)

Thing about Moore is that almost everything he's done is very good...His low points tend to be so much better than most peoples best work...

His Captain Britain stuff should be collected soon and it's that plus V for Vendetta and Marvelman that, as a 12yr old when i first read it, made me love comics as much as i do..

Also if you can find any of his Swamp Thing...buy it...

THe list can go on and on with him...

His novel Voice of the Fire is also very good...
 
 
Ganesh
09:50 / 12.01.02
[off-topic] Any relation to the famed Rab McGlinchey, Interpreting for the Neds? [/off-topic]
 
 
ghadis
09:50 / 12.01.02
quote: [off-topic] Any relation to the famed Rab McGlinchey, Interpreting for the Neds? [/off-topic]

wot wot wot????

slither slither
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
09:50 / 12.01.02
Oh, and I really like The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen as well, but some people don't. Also, Top Ten isn't half bad. Both available in trades.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
10:30 / 12.01.02
Along with all of the above, I've got to say that I look forward to new issues of Tom Strong more than I do New X-Men (although I suspect that I'm alone in this). Promethea is also well worth checking out.
 
 
The Natural Way
11:21 / 12.01.02
I think in terms of the "wow" factor it's gotta be the top 3:

From Hell

Watchmen

V For Vendetta

So far no-one's mentioned the Birth Caul...

So here goes:

The Birth Caul.
 
 
Rev. Jesse
11:47 / 12.01.02
Promethea.

Promethea, Promethea, Promethea.

Promethea.
 
 
deja_vroom
12:26 / 12.01.02
And Promethea, of course.
(Yes, I`m here on a saturday afternoon. Off in minutes to gat tattooed. woo-hoo).
 
 
Captain Zoom
13:28 / 12.01.02
ERD, have you managed to keep interested in Tom Strong? I bought it for a while and just couldn't get into it. I've got the trade at my store and keep thinking I should read it, but I've never got around to it. Did it get better after the first 3 issues?

(I know, not much to base an opinion on, but I've limited funds, and Planetary was actually regular at that point!)

Zoom.
 
 
Rev. Jesse
13:47 / 12.01.02
So I might get some flak for this, but I really like Alan's run on Swamp Thing. I've been collecting them from the DC reissue TPB's. Very cool. Makes me wish I was reading comics back them.
 
 
Captain Zoom
14:03 / 12.01.02
No flak my friend. I'm doing the very same thing to fill in what I'm missing. I used to scoff at Moore, muc in the same way I did Led Zepplin (and still do), 'cause everyone said he was great. Then I picked up some Swamp Thing back issues cheap and was blown away. I gotta admit I don't like everything he writes, but the vast majority of it is excellent.

Zoom.
 
 
Ria
14:31 / 12.01.02
the lone two issues of Big Numbersif you can find it, too.
 
 
Rev. Jesse
18:54 / 12.01.02
Ooooooh!

I just remebered, one of my favorite Alan Moore works is not a comic, its the Highbury Working, an excorism of the Highbury region in London, on CD. Really cool shit.

I want to look for more CD's by Moore now, anyone know where I can score them?
 
 
Spatula Clarke
09:28 / 13.01.02
quote:Originally posted by Captain Zoom:
ERD, have you managed to keep interested in Tom Strong? I bought it for a while and just couldn't get into it. I've got the trade at my store and keep thinking I should read it, but I've never got around to it. Did it get better after the first 3 issues?


I don't know where to begin here, so forgive me if this makes little or no sense to anyone else. I'm in that 'defending something you love' position that's always difficult to express objective opinion from.

I think the thing that makes Tom Strong such a wonderful comic, for me, is the sense of innocence that Moore imbues it with. It treads so close to being cheesy and moralistic, but never takes that final, fateful step. You know that Moore's just playing around, reinventing Superman without all the nasty fascist leanings that good ol' Kent has and rewriting old strips with a new cast of characters, but there's never a hint of a 'knowing wink' or other trappings of postmodernism. The ‘knowing wink’ isn’t necessarily a bad thing, but it tends to get drastically overused - one of my main bug bears about Morrison <gets ready to duck rotten veg> is that he seems absolutely incapable of staying sincere within a single issue of a comic, let alone a series.

And yet, Moore still manages to make each issue an examination of the comic book medium, without this subtext ever diluting the main story. I’ll agree that issues 1 and 3 weren’t his best work ever, but #2 was fantastic. Here we have the superhero being faced by an (apparently) frequently returning enemy, the Modular Man. This enemy keeps coming back; no matter how many times our hero faces him in battle and beats him, he’ll always be able to return to cause trouble again. It's a recurring (no pun intended) theme in seperhero stories, but, just at the point that any other superhero would kick the shit out of his nemesis without a second thought, Tom reasons with his.

“Sure [you’ll return]. And then I’ll destroy you in Japan, and a year later you’ll regrow somewhere in Russia. Doesn’t sound much of an artificial life to me. Brief periods of consciousness, maybe a week in 2009AD, perhaps three days in 2025… Never being allowed to grow bigger than a neighborhood before the bombers are sent in… Is that really the kind of future you want?”

“No. So, tell me… What do you suggest?”

And Tom gives him Venus! Like, the entire planet! Then it’s all capped by a beautiful ending, where Tom tells his wife that on his recent visit to Venus, he found the planet…

“…silent. Oh, there were breathtaking vistas and beautiful sunsets, but it all went unobserved. It’s only life that gives meaning to the stars and worlds, my sweet. Life… or something very much like it.”

And that’s when you hear the orchestra reach its crescendo. Our hero’s won the day without once lifting a fist in anger.

Now I type all that, I realize you know it all already. Hmm.

You’ve missed the Paul Saveen four-parter that ran from #4 to #7, and included Tom’s Nazi clone son. You’ve missed four or five issues that have been made up of smaller, unconnected tales, most of which have shown Moore not giving a rat’s arse for universe consistency or any of the other, decidedly anal gubbins that a series can so easily become mired in. You’ve missed Tom helping to save the world of one of his (many) alternate universe selves, in the process meeting characters who are obviously intended as homage to golden-era greats. Not being a comic book nut, I can’t recognize them all, but that’s not a problem in this comic. With Planetary, I’m sure that a great amount of the appeal comes from figuring out all the cameo appearances in each issue (hell, the funeral issue was good for very little else; we even had a fucking thread devoted to spotting them all, ferchrisakes). In Tom Strong, it doesn’t matter if you don’t know that the character at the back left of panel two on page 24 of issue 12 is supposed to look a bit like Captain America. The story has meaning without it; it doesn’t need to rely on such clever-clever tricks.

None of this makes any sense, does it? The only other way I can try and explain it is like this:

That argument we all had in this forum a few weeks ago, just before Cameron left. I said that superhero comics should be written for kids, but in such a way that adults can get huge enjoyment from reading them too. That’s achieved by refusing to talk down to your primary audience, to treat them with the respect they deserve and as having greater intelligence than they’re usually given credit for. Alan Moore does that in every single issue of Tom Strong.

Zoom, can I just suggest that you check the new Tom Strong’s Terrific Tales, or maybe track down copies of Tom Strong #11 and #12? Each issue is so distinct from the last that it's difficult to know what to recommend, but those are some of the best yet.

[ 13-01-2002: Message edited by: E. Ranty Dupre ]
 
 
Big Talk
09:28 / 13.01.02
from hell's gotta be the most accessible + overtly genius work- it took me 4 or 5 readings to dig everything in watchmen, but from hell bowls you over right from the start.

BTW, where's the thread with all the planetary funeral guys?
 
 
A
09:28 / 13.01.02
In addition to a bunch od stuff that people haver already mentioned, i like his "1963" miniseries for Image (well, i like the three issues out of six I've actually read), which as far as i can tell is designed to retroactively give the Image "universe" a "silver age" and is all kinds of fun. All the characters are rip-offs of silver age Marvel characters, but mixed up, so they rip off a bunch at the same time, or something.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
09:28 / 13.01.02
quote:Originally posted by Big Talk:
BTW, where's the thread with all the planetary funeral guys?


Disappeared last time the board went tits up, I think.
 
 
Captain Zoom
13:58 / 13.01.02
ERD I did get Terrrific Tales in and enjoyed it thoroughly. I think, on your recommendation I'm going to read the trade (I've got it here and won't have to spend any money). Interesting you say it's Superman re-invented without all the postmodernism, 'cause I found that Supreme was the same thing but with the postmodernism. Excellent issue where the Mxypltk (Sp?) character drops the issue of Supreme that the story is in into our hero's lap. Very good. Thanks for the eloquent answer. Maybe I'll give it another try.

Sort of on a tangential note, do you think Terrific Tales is still suitable for kids? There is that one scene in which Tesla is out partying, puking and screwing with an alien?

Count Adam, I too really enjoyed 1963. See if you can get the rest of the series. The trouble is that it was never finished. There was supposed to be an annual at the end where the 1963 characters met the current Image U characters, but by the time that came around, Image had crumbled a little. I found it to be a silver age tribute to Marvel in much the same way Supreme was a silver age tribute to DC. With Tom Strong it appears that, by way of these homages, Moore has got a handle on the Silver Age and transferred it to a modern millieu. For someone who denounced super-heroes at one point, he writes a pretty fucking good one, n'est-ce pas?

Zoom.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
15:05 / 13.01.02
quote:Originally posted by Captain Zoom:
Sort of on a tangential note, do you think Terrific Tales is still suitable for kids? There is that one scene in which Tesla is out partying, puking and screwing with an alien?


I don't see why not. It's not exactly 'graphic', is it? You'll see far worse on TV, etc, etc.
 
 
Captain Zoom
19:04 / 13.01.02
True enough. Has anyone read any of Moore's Image stuff from the 90's. He did some Spawn and WildC.A.T.S. and some other stuff. Is it any good?

Zoom.
 
 
rexpop
23:52 / 13.01.02
Moore's WildCATS is a decent read. Not outstanding in anyway, just solid. Collected in two trade paperbacks 'Homecoming' and 'Gang War' worth the $15-20 each you would pay for them.

I only seem to remember him doing one issue of Spawn which was a half decent read (but then compared to the rest of the series at that point that wasn't difficult). I could be wrong as I stopped reading Spawn after the Grant Morrison three parter.
 
 
Karasu
23:52 / 13.01.02
The only other one I'd add to the list everyone else has provided would be 'Brought to Light'. It's nigh on impossible to find in book form (though bizarrely enough my local library has a copy! Go figure?) This is the one he wrote for the Christic Institute. Fantastic read. Delves into a lot of very interesting things.
It's split into two seperate novels. The first when he talks of a specific incident in South America was alright, but the second where he talks of the CIA and their actions after WWII up to the current day is fascinating.

It's now been released as a CD have a look at it here

Supposedly Moore mentioned it in an interview at salon.com and said that an actual CIA "spook" who had read the piece was disturbed by how well he had caught the mind-set of the boys in the agency. But that was info I got from someone on another board and I can't find the article, so make of that what you will?

[ 14-01-2002: Message edited by: Karasu ]
 
 
Robot Man Reformed
16:35 / 14.01.02
quote:Originally posted by rexpop:


I only seem to remember him doing one issue of Spawn which was a half decent read


He wrote a 3 parter, of which the first 2 were drawn by Bart Sears, and the last part by Greg Cappola/Grepulu/whatever, I think it was called Bloodfeud?
 
 
Not Here Still
17:05 / 14.01.02
Just a quickie:

Could someone please tell me that this quote (about Cage playing Constantine, allegedly from Moore) is wrong:

"They should have got STING."

Because, y'know - looking at the first appearance of Constantine, in Swamp Thing, he does look very Sting-y.

Please, let it be wrong....
 
 
grant
17:23 / 14.01.02
He was originally modeled on Sting when Sting was still a punk rocker.
 
 
odd jest on horn
13:30 / 15.01.02
quote:
by Karasu:

Supposedly Moore mentioned it in an interview at salon.com and said that an actual CIA "spook" who had read the piece was disturbed by how well he had caught the mind-set of the boys in the agency. But that was info I got from someone on another board and I can't find the article, so make of that what you will?



no conspiracy here. there are two alan moore articles at salon.com, but the interview in question is to be fount at blather.net

here's the link:
http://www.blather.net/articles/amoore/index.html

item number 10.

excellent interview actually.

[Edited to add "by Karasu:"]

[ 15-01-2002: Message edited by: odd jest on horn ]
 
 
Not Here Still
16:52 / 15.01.02
Originally posted by grant:

He was originally modeled on Sting when Sting was still a punk rocker.

Ah, Moore was a big fan of alternate universes even then...
 
  

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