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NXM 121 (SPOILERS)

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Sandy Haired Bruce Wayne

14:50 / 09.01.02

In order.

Kingdom:Offspring, 2020 Visions #1-3, Flinch #1, Flinch #12, Dark Horse Presents #91-93 (My first exposure to his work, it's entirely in black and white and has a Gary Gianni feel to it. Lovely), and Batman:The Scottish Connection (It was hyped to me as a comic set in Glasgow. Liars). He's also done some covers and pinups.

I'm a little shocked that I own practically all of these, since for most of them I didn't pick them up for Quitely's art. I just happened upon them. Too bad I won't buy Marvel so I can keep up the pattern.

14:56 / 09.01.02

why won't you buy marvel?

Matthew Fluxington

15:09 / 09.01.02

Apparently no one has slipped Mr. Wayne the memo stating that Marvel's the good one now, and DC's the conservative one...

[ 09-01-2002: Message edited by: Flux = The Man Who Loves You ]

Sandy Haired Bruce Wayne

16:13 / 09.01.02

Oh, I got the memo. I just ignored it. Glad to see there's still just two choices for some people.

To prevent thread rot, I've posted my reply here.

Matthew Fluxington

19:04 / 09.01.02

quote:Originally posted by Sandy Haired Bruce Wayne:
Oh, I got the memo. I just ignored it. Glad to see there's still just two choices for some people.

Well, if you're going to read superhero comics, yes, there is just two now that Wildstorm is a DC property.

Imaginary Mongoose Solutions

16:05 / 11.01.02

quote:Originally posted by Lozt Cause:
I think Multiple Man's poweres were supposedly on from birth

Multiple Man's powers activated when the doctor smacked him on the ass. *pop* Two babies.

23:22 / 11.01.02

[devil's advocate] Isn't it just Stephen King's 'The Dark Half' as filmed by the guy who made 'The Cell'? [/devil's advocate]

09:29 / 14.01.02

quote:Originally posted by PATricky:
I read the killer fetus as prof. X. responding to the threat of his sister's potential... it would've been all to human of him to seek to kill what he didn't understand. (ala the Cassandra Nova's intro in isue 114) Perhaps his mutant power was the capacity to evolve out of that sort of mentality... this could also explain his "dream", or it could be motivated by guilt at this immature attempt at murder.
But Hey... he wasn't even born yet, talk about immature. There's a potential arguement there about his Not being socialised or moralised & thus was functioning on much more primal instincts... perhaps percieving his sister as a threat to available resourses.

Could be those Xavier psychic powers at play, the worlds greatest pre-natal telepath as well?

09:29 / 14.01.02

I like the way everyone is talking as if the whole sequence is symbolic - except the in utero scene. Which is rather improbable, if you think about it, even by the standards of superhero comics. Surely it is more Xavier's unconscious, guilt-ridden, internalised representation of a pre-sentient biological process, than a literal Crimstoppers-style re-enactment?

yawn - thing's buddy

10:30 / 14.01.02

good point crunchy.

but jean reported the incident a la crimestoppers.

so was she taking it too literally?

17:15 / 14.01.02

From the script at www.marvel.com

PAGE 17
Frame 1 And suddenly it1s War in the Womb as the first infant hits its twin's face with a nasty backhanded blow. The twin yelps in first pain.

Frame 2 Thrashing internal tides, the tiny hands choke and battle. The First Twin's face is gruesomely evil. The Second's eyes are closed, in distress as the other attacks its face, blocking its nose and mouth.

Frame 3 The First Infant is killing the Second now, strangling it with its own umbilicus, pulling at its face. Seething toxic horror in the coloring now amniotic fluid like urine and bile in the dark green light. The Second's eyes tear open, seeing the unseen universe for the first time.

Frame 4 The primal crime: Second Infant unleashes intense psychic power to destroy the First, the attacker. Second's mouth streams with energetic light and more pours from his eyes. First Infant screams. Infernal scouring light fills the miniature womb world.

"...Second's mouth...his eyes"

Nova struck first, Xavier was acting in self defense.

Nuff said indeed.

[ 14-01-2002: Message edited by: Duncan ]

yawn - thing's buddy

17:32 / 14.01.02

And Scotland have scored!

Imaginary Mongoose Solutions

20:25 / 14.01.02

quote:Originally posted by Dread Pirate Crunchy:
Surely it is more Xavier's unconscious, guilt-ridden, internalised representation of a pre-sentient biological process, than a literal Crimstoppers-style re-enactment?

Good question, however the last time comics readers saw some good old fashioned Fetal Combat was when John Contantine literally strangled his twin with it's own umbilical cord. Perhaps that's why every one it taking it so literally...

LET FETAL COMBAT BEGIN!

Matthew Fluxington

20:31 / 14.01.02

I wonder if I'm the only person who thinks that if Grant leaves Cassandra's motivation as simply "she has an instinctive desire to kill any and all mutants", I'll be a bit let down. I'd like to think there is some more to it than that...

20:33 / 14.01.02

Hmmm... isn't that literally impossible? Cause I thought fetuses absorbed oxygen through the umbilical cord, so would closing their throat accomplish anything? I guess if you put a kink in the umbilical cord doing it you could hurt them - but anyway I am a) probably wrong and b) ridiculously trying to suggest something is 'impossible' in a comic about mutant teenagers.

A

22:53 / 14.01.02

i was thinking pretty much the same thing, crunchy.

The Natural Way

08:33 / 15.01.02

Well, as far as I'm concerned, what with my Cassy-as-birth-trauma reading, Cassandra IS all about the metaphor, guy: Archon style pre/post natal terror in the flesh; Birth pains of the next jump in evolution/Charles shitting it wombstyle.....

In the end, if he doesn't "integrate" her, I'll eat my meat hat.

In fact the process has already begun - after all, they have *swapped bodies*.

11:02 / 15.01.02

quote:Originally posted by Dread Pirate Crunchy:
Hmmm... isn't that literally impossible? Cause I thought fetuses absorbed oxygen through the umbilical cord, so would closing their throat accomplish anything?

Well, I guess theoretically compression on the carotid arteries (rather than the airway) could stop blood-flow to the brain (as could occluding the umbilical itself) and cause brain-death.

This is a bizarre conversation...

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