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Battlestar Galactica- 'The Face of the Enemy' and Season 4.5 (SPOILERS!)

 
  

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Keith, like a scientist
01:07 / 24.03.09
People are really focused on this 'no technology' thing, huh?
 
 
Dead Megatron
10:26 / 24.03.09
I think the writers are not against technology, it is just that they had to get rid of any signs of alien tech in order to establish the "beginning of a new civilisation" here on Earth without leaving any clues as to our true origin to be found by archeologists next to the "Mytochondrial Eve". Just like the Cylon helmet found on Cylon Earth needed to look like the 12 Colonies Cylons. A plot convenience more than an actual intended message.

My opinion is, if I could pretty much guess the ending, the ending wasn't all that creative. But it was all right.

The most interesting aspect of the finale for me was how "God" (in the lack of a better name) is very, very powerful, but not necessarily all-powerful. Ze certainly did not have the power to control Human and Cylon behavior (or, at least, Ze chose not to), only the power to send messages through subtle influence of happenings. Ze has the power to control coincidences, and he could also send Hir "angels" to give that little extra nudge in the right direction (tho Ze did not seem to like doing so as well, and used this power in the most parsimonious fashion possible). I like the way Ze was described almost as a scientist, trying to re-enter a "complex system" until something unexpected happens (i.e. it actually works and sustains itself indefinitely), instead of just "making it happen the way Ze want it to", as an Omnipotent God would. And it was interesting also the way Head Six kept telling Baltar he was meant to write "Humanity's final chapter" but neglected to mention that such chapter was supposed to end with the line "and they lived happily ever after" instead of "they all died", as Baltar himself - and the audience - was lead to believe.

And, in Hir defense, this time the vicious cycle of self-destruction did take a lot longer to fulfill itself again: 140,000 years as opposed to the 5,000 years from Kobold to the 12 Colonies's destruction. And let's face it, 140,000 years without any catactlismic culling is a pretty good mark for any civilisation, with or without loss of historical data and technology.

Also, the space battle was pretty satisfying*, tho I expected a higher death toll on what was supposed to be a suicide mission. No main cast members died in the attack, as far as I can remember.


* it's strange how ramming spaceships into each other seem like such an usual space battle manouver in scifi...
 
 
Dead Megatron
10:59 / 24.03.09
Also, I have just seen the Caprica previews that are just hitting the net, and I must say I find them quite promising. A family drama set in the same world of the war drama. And it's interesting to see how the technophyle pre-Cylon war Colonies seemed so much more advanced, both in tech and design, than the anti-IA post-Cylon war Colonies, which highlights the high tow the war must've inflicted upon Human culture and society. Almost like the Colonies we knew so far was the post-apocalyptic, retro version thereof.

And skinjobs may have been around longer than we thought...
 
 
Eek! A Freek!
11:34 / 24.03.09
I like the way Ze was described almost as a scientist, trying to re-enter a "complex system" until something unexpected happens (i.e. it actually works and sustains itself indefinitely), instead of just "making it happen the way Ze want it to", as an Omnipotent God would.

I'm beginning to think that the BSG "God" is actually Dr. Manhattan after crossing over from the Watchmen Universe...
 
 
Mistoffelees
11:36 / 24.03.09
I think the writers are not against technology, it is just that they had to get rid of any signs of alien tech in order to establish the "beginning of a new civilisation" here on Earth without leaving any clues as to our true origin to be found by archeologists next to the "Mytochondrial Eve".

At the end, I still saw a huge raptor next to Roslyn´s grave. And since they wanted to spread the survivors all over the world, that couldn´t have been the only one.


And let's face it, 140,000 years without any catactlismic culling is a pretty good mark for any civilisation, with or without loss of historical data and technology.

But for those 140,000 there was no civilisation. They were just hunters and gatherers in prehistorial times.
 
 
Dead Megatron
11:55 / 24.03.09
But for those 140,000 there was no civilisation. They were just hunters and gatherers in prehistorial times.

Don't be complex tool-making, written word-savy, architecturally accomplished-centric, my friend. What's wrong with being part of a simpler hunter/gatherer civilisation? If there's culture, which there certaily was, albeit basal, and an unbroken ethnic lineage, which is evidenced by Hera being our collective mother, there's a continuous civilisation. At least in a lose sense...

Also, if you abbide by the "all this has happened before and will happen again" motif, even the seed of a civilisation is a civilisation, in a 4th-dimensional point of view.

I'm beginning to think that the BSG "God" is actually Dr. Manhattan after crossing over from the Watchmen Universe...

thought of that myself...
 
 
penitentvandal
09:15 / 25.03.09
I think it was about as good as it could have been. I'd have liked them to keep some of their tech on earth and become the gods in a Von Daniken stylee. Then again, Gaius and Six are clearly off to Mesopotamia to invent agriculture so maybe they do, in a way. And Saul and Ellen are, of course, off to Egypt to show the natives how to make beer...

I think I could actually get the 'let's have no technology' thing better if it had been explained as a deliberate strategy to stop any surviving cylons following them - they would be scanning for signs of a highly advanced civilisation, so if they don't set one up, the cylons can't find them.

I loved the self-reflexiveness of the ending, though, with the robots all over the place - including that creepy fembot thing - probably many of which were worked on by people inspired by this show.

And I love the idea that the messengers of God are a sleazy scientist and his supermodel girlfriend.
 
 
Evil Scientist
08:50 / 26.03.09
Hmm, naturally I'm a little put off by the anti-technology vibe, but to be honest I was more uncomfortable with the "predominantly white Western society teaches civilisation to the nonverbal African savages" vibe.
 
 
Evil Scientist
08:59 / 26.03.09
Still I did find myself smiling at the unspoken nod to the opening lines of oldskool BSG.

"There are those who believe that life here began out there..."
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
23:41 / 21.06.09
Did anyone else get a distinct Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy vibe to the final episode? A spaceship carrying the survivors of a doomed race across the stars where they happen to land on prehistoric Earth to start our human race? And to hammer it home, they even put a guy in a bathtub on the bridge of the ship!

Totally. Wanted Six and Baltar to start playing Scrabble.

Didn't really get an anti-tech vibe from it, though- more a "let's stop fucking with other people's extant way of life- that always leads down a bad road" kind of one.

Although, the whole Starbuck thing- much as I loved it, this show has reminded me of MANY writers- Ballard wasn't one I was expecting. (Unlimited Dream Company, anyone?)

Nah, I thought it was awesome. Best series finale ever apart from Millennium season two, which kind of f*cked it up by actually getting a third season.
 
  

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