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The Spirit

 
  

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grant
20:10 / 21.07.08
She's also on the cover of Cosmo this month.

What happened to the girl from Ghost World?

(And what's going to be her third undead comic book adaptation? Is there a Spectre in the works?)
 
 
Triplets
21:10 / 21.07.08
That is a great look she's rocking.
 
 
HCE
21:14 / 21.07.08
And they say Barbelith's not woman-friendly! More like a little too friendly, I'd say!
 
 
grant
19:27 / 22.07.08
And Maggie Glyllenhaal is on the cover of Marie Claire.

There must be some kind of comics/indie actress/marketing guide in some ad agency somewhere. It's bound in stained leather and smells of menthol cigarettes and brimstone.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
21:18 / 22.07.08


You know, youth isn't everything. They may be young and hot now, but will they have their own series in their middle thirties?

I think Katie Holmes is a lot hotter. She's a very hot young actress. And so unaffected!
 
 
dark horse
21:26 / 22.07.08
i'm kinda worried that we might be going a bit offtopic here and i don't want to get into trouble with the mods for it! if i started a thread for people to say who they're favorite actresses are should that go in the conversation or in film?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
21:36 / 22.07.08


Is there a forum for people who don't want an elven arrow in their gizzards? And are prepared to vote accordingly? That forum. Otherwise, probably Conversation.
 
 
Jack Fear
12:33 / 23.07.08
if i started a thread for people to say who they're favorite actresses are should that go in the conversation or in film?

How about, oh, on some other board entirely? There are already a zillion-and-one places on the Internet to gush about the comparative hawttness of various pretty lay-teez without doing it here.

It's a big ol' Web out there; there's no need for Barbelith to be all things to all people, you know?
 
 
HCE
13:01 / 23.07.08
Like a place where you can catch a five-minute break from sexism, for example?
 
 
dark horse
13:20 / 23.07.08
hi jack, i hear what you're saying but i also think that barbelith is big enough and everyone here is cool and openminded enough for there to be different kinds of things for different people right? i haven't found anywhere else on the web that's as cool as this place so i'd rather stay here....

i really don't want to offend anyone though so maybe the thread could be for people to talk about their favorite actors OR actresses?
 
 
Jack Fear
13:39 / 23.07.08
everyone here is cool and openminded enough for there to be different kinds of things for different people right?

Oh, Barbelith is definitely different things to different people. But there are some things that (quite rightly) fall outside its mission statement. That's not being snobby; it's being selective. By the same token, being open-minded does not mean that you have to turn off your crap-filters.

Barbelith is what Barbelith is, and it's for what it's for. The rest of the Internet is for everything else, and it operates by different standards. 'Round these parts, though, you might want to raise your game a little.
 
 
Closed for Business Time
14:04 / 23.07.08
Hell, nothing wrong with Favourite XYZ threads, as long as they do not focus on OMG s/he's so hawtt!!!11!! bullshit.

Focus on the how and why: Why do you like this person's work? What roles made them stand out from the crowd? How did they get to where they are? What rights and wrongs have they committed to celluloid? How did you first come to see X as "favourite"? How do their professional personas relate to their off-screen presences? What does that all mean in the greater scheme of movie culture?

And so on and so forth.
 
 
dark horse
21:13 / 23.07.08
wow...ok guys, i guess i'm still learning a lot about barbelith and its high standards... i thought maybe people might enjoy a lighthearted thread in the conversation but if that's not cool then i won't do it! i think i should probably take some time out to look at old barbelith discussions so i can start posting the kind of thing that's cool here.... peace.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
21:33 / 23.07.08
You could do that. You could also discover the rank hypocrisy of all involved in poo-pooing the idea by reading the 19-page Lust List thread. Which was, eventually, made horrible by a couple of deeply icky people, but was pumpy and spurty for, like, three years.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
22:03 / 23.07.08
You know, it's been a while since I've looked at that. Reading the Lust List is like...staring into the abyss, having the abyss stare back into me, running its hand over my ass while I'm trying to pour a glass of wine. The abyss has had too much gin, I'm afraid, and it's become one of those parties. After that, conversation with the Abyss becomes...awkward.

Similar, but not the same, as watching The Spirit trailer.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
22:23 / 23.07.08
Christ. That thread really did descend into the worst place in the world, didn't it? Even Jenna Elfman basically feels like a halfwit has taken a dump into her brain after a dinner of sand and nails.
 
 
HCE
22:46 / 23.07.08
Eff you guys! I stand by all my choices!
 
 
Eloi Tsabaoth
22:51 / 23.07.08
With a little effort wildstallion could also find out how to fight dogs, or which celebrities it'd be good to attack. Barbelith is educational!
 
 
HCE
22:54 / 23.07.08
The hottie pictured here should be added to my list:

http://www.barbelith.com/topic/13046/from/455#post615380
 
 
yichihyon
10:51 / 03.10.08
The Spirit website

The artwork on the website is stunning and the trailer looks very interesting.....
 
 
FinderWolf
14:17 / 03.10.08
It seems like Miller is going with some sort of supernatural/superpower here; that The Spirit simply doesn't die/has amazing healing powers after his 'death.' Kinda disappointing. Samuel L. Jackson has said in interviews that it's like a 'cartoon,' that they hurt each other in all these crazy ways and no one dies or gets substantially hurt. (not that I'm seeking violence here, just not really looking to see a Frank Miller Bugs Bunny cartoon violence thing with The Spirit having Wolverine-type healing abilities)

I've given up most hope for this to be very good, or to have much in common with Will Eisner's character. (Although the "someone get me a tie, and it damn well better be red!" was a hilarious vintage Frank Miller line, if out of place for Will Eisner's Spirit character) Still, would be happy to be proven wrong once it actually comes out. It just seems like one big Frank Miller cliche in a genre and character that doesn't really lend itself to the Sin City-esque one-note, one-trick-pony that Miller has become.
 
 
Triplets
21:35 / 03.10.08
"I'm gonna kill you all kinds of dead"

Lmao. Oh Frank.

Will have to take this one as a cartoony Sin City Kids I reckon.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
01:55 / 04.10.08
You know, maybe I should resurrect the MY CITY SCREAMS suit.
 
 
Triplets
16:40 / 06.10.08
Check the Name me! thread, Papes...
 
 
Colonel Kadmon
21:25 / 06.10.08
I wouldn't mind if it was his own character. But poor Eisner...
 
 
hachiman
11:58 / 15.10.08
It's ok, he's passed on and beyond caring about what people do with the character he created.

But us frothing fatbeards, well we're still around to get all indignant on his behalf.

to quote the abominable Harry Enfield;

"OI! MILLER!"
 
 
Aha! I am Klarion
20:23 / 27.12.08
I saw this today. It was one of the worst movies that I have ever seen. It is fucking boring!
 
 
Mark Parsons
22:14 / 27.12.08
I feel strangely compelled to see this, although being a huge fan of Eisner's series< I am not quite sure WHY, esp after seeing so many negative-to-blistering reviews. I am out of the US now and wonder if it will be gone by the time I get back (Jan 6th). I gather PUNISHER has left the building too after limping along for three weeks.

What a shame! The Spirit brought low! I always pictured Juenot making a great Spirit movie with Audrey Tatou as one of the femme fatals (can't recall what the french character was named: the one who adopted Hilde?).

Maybe I'll buy another Spirit Archives edition instead...
 
 
vajramukti
01:20 / 28.12.08
I have only three words for this film:

WHAT.

THE.

FUCK.


miller needs to quit making movies and start selling whatever it is he's smoking. he's passed beyond what you could loosely reffer to as 'style' into the realm of a series of tics, like some kind of mental patient with tourettes syndrome. it's cool, then it's funny, then it's sort of uncomfortable, then it's just agonising.

thank god for sam jackson. if he weren't tearing the film apart with his teeth, you'd want to burst your own head open by beating it against the seat in front of you. he must have realised poor frank was not well in his head, and tried to distract the whole audience from his condition. and nearly succeeds.

it's like miller was trying to do some kind of kill-bill-esque re-appropriation of his influences, except almost no one really knows who will eisner was, or what the spirit is, so he just looks like he's losing his shit with several million dollars and a number of watchable actors.

and does he really really think he's doing a service to the memory of will eisner? or just raping a safely-distant corpse? what the fuck, frank. seriously.
 
 
Aha! I am Klarion
18:00 / 28.12.08
Is it just me or would the movie have been watchable if it had been cut by fifteen minutes?

vajramukti, your notes are spot-on. I mentioned to a friend that the only complimentary thing one could say about it is that it seems like it was made by a mental patient.

If Daniel Johnston directed a Captain America or Casper the Friendly Ghost movie it would end-up like this (p.s. I would actually pay to see that).
 
 
ghadis
18:11 / 28.12.08
Hooray for the Comedy Mentalist! A gift to the film reviewer within us all.
 
 
Benny the Ball
01:14 / 29.12.08
Yeah, if we could drop the Frank Miller = mental patient stuff, that'd be nice.
 
 
vajramukti
01:37 / 29.12.08
yes. I would not want to slander any mental patients by suggesting they might make this film the way frank miller did. I was just trying to give a revered creator a graceful out.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
19:02 / 03.01.09
Anybody else seen the UK telly ads for this? Apparently, critics are going wild for The Spirit, a claim backed up by a load of uncredited quotes. Or bullshit, if we're being pedantic/honest.
 
 
Tuna Ghost: Pratt knot hero
21:09 / 04.01.09
With a little effort wildstallion could also find out how to fight dogs

I stand by that thread. There was some good advice in there, despite the bad vibes. I'm a fan of having a big bag of contingency plans. There was a time when I desperately needed a "What To Do If Your Friend Has Been Sexually Assaulted" plan (I have one now, thanks in part to Barbelith).

Back on topic: It breaks my heart to hear Frank Miller has made such a mess of The Spirit. I didn't even know he was involved, I thought it was just the same director of Miller's other shit.

Does it have any redeemable qualities? I've always liked Samuel L., I had hoped he put in a decent performance.
 
  

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