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18:48 / 15.06.07

Haven't read it but that sounds very likely.

Regrettable Juvenilia

18:55 / 15.06.07

Christ, what are people going on about, "the bomb" what? Warp core breached means warp core breached. The attempts of Hulk's alien pals to get the ship he arrived in working accidentally made the engine blew up. It's a tragic accident, but he sees it as the Illuminati's fault since they built the ship and put him in it. Simple as that.

19:04 / 15.06.07

I might have to go and read PH now, although I suspect Fly's on the money

Essential Dazzler

19:22 / 15.06.07

Flyboy, what would internet comics discussion be without hours and hours devoted to poin... Hang on, it'd be good, wouldn't it?

Shiny: Well Over Thirty

20:17 / 15.06.07

I'm quite embarrasingly exicted about this. I started reading comics with the run up to the Hulk smashes the marvel universe fest that was issue 300 of the old series and somehow a good Hulk rampage never ceases to entertain me. This is without a doubt going to be my favourite Marvel Mega crossover ever. Even if it's shit it'll be beautiful to me.

As a fan of the Peter David run as well I'm interested to see how close to the Maestro version they want to take this Hulk - he's definitely got some elements of the background of the Maestro now - everything taken away from him, powered up even further by weird radiation, wake of a war which has weakened the other Supers. Obviously they won't go all the way because that would make for a shit Marvel Universe and a pretty boring Hulk book after a while, but I'd like it if they skated as close as possible to the full blown Maestro Hulk for a bit.

By the way it definitely wasn't written as being a bomb, but I think there might have been something about the ship being rigged to blow in the spoof recap strip they printed recently, which might be what's causing the confusion. The thing is the Hulk just doesn't care if it was deliberate - it what they did he cares about not what they meant to do.

Elijah, Freelance Rabbi

21:31 / 15.06.07

So I just read this, and holy shit. The Hulk riding on the FRONT OF A SPACESHIP SMASHING ASTEROIDS OUT OF THE WAY.

That needs to be a videogame.

Essential Dazzler

21:42 / 15.06.07

A mini-game during a real computer game's loading sequences surely?

Elijah, Freelance Rabbi

21:53 / 15.06.07

I was thinking a retro style game, like Asteroids but with smashing.

Essential Dazzler

21:55 / 15.06.07

That makes sense, proceed.

You do realise that a freeware version of said game appearing on my PC in the next 4 months is your responsibility now?

MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!

22:35 / 15.06.07

By coincidence, a comic shop just opened downtown, and WWH was my first purchase there. I am pleased. I was worried it would be a crap "decompressed" thing and just people blathering on ... but it was only about 60% blather and 40% AWESOME, which beats the general major-publisher curve by a margin.

22:54 / 15.06.07

Well, wrt the bomb, which somebody set us up - I, well I stole it really, read all of Planet Hulk and then stole this installment yesterday and there definitely is something very odd with Miek and the Brood just prior to the bomb going off. She's like 'Yesssss', and I just read it as you know, some kind of insectoid sexytime 'twixt them given his race isn't going to propagate in any other fashion, for a start, but then - it's a Brood, man. They are always always baddies. So maybe.

I just wish my friends were so into stupid shit like this so we could be like: "Warbound."

MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!

21:07 / 16.06.07

Re-reading, it really bothers me that the Hulk actually flew all the way from his destroyed planet to Earth with edited highlight reels of the Illuminati transmission to his ship, the explosion of the ship, his buddies and his coronation, etc.

22:30 / 17.06.07

other thoughts:

Tony Stark injected the Hulk with nanobots to supress Hulk's powers during the fight. So it's a matter of time til Hulk becomes Banner again.

How can they have World War Hulk showing the big fights and yet, more and more big fights in the regular monthly Hulk book and then about 4 spin-off books? This will be interesting to see...

22:31 / 17.06.07

oh, and JR. Jr. made sure to put Times Square's very own Naked Cowboy in the crowd scene in NYC. Nice one!

And, did the crumbling New Avengers tower/Stark Tower with Sentry's HQ on top strike anyone as unsettlingly 9-11-like...?

01:02 / 18.06.07

Christ, what are people going on about, "the bomb" what? Warp core breached means warp core breached. The attempts of Hulk's alien pals to get the ship he arrived in working accidentally made the engine blew up. It's a tragic accident, but he sees it as the Illuminati's fault since they built the ship and put him in it. Simple as that.

Hulk SMASH 'Guardian' reader.

Hulk reads 'Daily Mail'.

If Hulk fancies a quiet, emotional moment in the facilities on the train on the way into work, he will read 'Daily Mail'.

Hulk's heart beat only for Melanie Phillips'

MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!

09:51 / 18.06.07

Is anyone else having a problem with the whole "the angrier the Hulk gets, the stronger he gets, and this is the angriest he has ever been" thing?

With Classic Hulk, this was basically a reference to him flipping out and smashing things. Crazed tantrum = strength increase, coupled with a greater lack of control. Kind of a trade-off.

This whole "measured, calculating anger" thing, though -- okay, he does go all "RRRAAAGGGHH!!" on the last page, but that's after he's taken out Black Bolt, for Pete's sake -- it just feels like cheating, a bit. Because there's no trade-off for the infinite world-shattering strength now. He's wrathful but not rampaging, and that just doesn't feel "stronger" the way it should. He's Dad angry, not six-year-old angry.

Regrettable Juvenilia

09:56 / 18.06.07

Oh, but I think he is rampaging, and there will surely be some kind of price to pay. I've sort of changed my mind after getting exasperated earlier about the "bomb" theorising, in that I can see a couple of the Warbound (and it is always the insects) deciding that Earth is rich pickings for conquest, and I wonder when they made that decision... This seems an obvious way for Hulk to stop being quite such an enemy of, well, everyone on Earth, and vice versa, if he has to save the planet from the Brood or something.

10:16 / 18.06.07

Thus far this is nothing but very silly fun, so, no, I am entirely problemless. I think the idea that the Hulk is SO! ANGRY! he's now the second toughest being in the galaxy is absolutely hilarious and I love it.

11:42 / 18.06.07

Read it fully this time and love it.

The nanobots , i think Iron Man said would only hold him for a few seconds (nano meaning tiny little robots in a gamma eradated blood stream , these littel guys arnt sheilded or that tough they just repoduce fast but stick them in a living nuclear reactor they die !).

Wrathful oh yes , rampaging is a 6 year old . Wrath is cold calculated strenght to destroy a planet, hitting in the right place.

But its great silly fun (who's laying bets he pounds Sentry in to the ground and snaps a few limbs).

On a diverge I read Neil Gaimans Eternals afterwards is the Golden Celesteal still there ??

11:49 / 18.06.07

I think one could argue that his anger may not be greater than it's ever been... but it's more focused. Classic Hulk was like a spotlight.... spilling out a lot of energy, but randomly.

This Hulk is a laser beam.

MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!

12:29 / 18.06.07

This seems an obvious way for Hulk to stop being quite such an enemy of, well, everyone on Earth...

Aye, but I wouldn't mind a return to classic "hunted, feared" Hulk. The problem with that formula when the Hulk was a creature that, as Peter David had the Grey Hulk say, "liked baked beans and puppy dogs," it was hard to understand why the Hulk's pals Doctor Strange and the Silver Surfer wouldn't just tell General Thaddeus "Thunderbolt" Ross to fuck off already.

The thought of Bruce Banner having to use all his intellect and cunning to scramble around, hiding and scrounging, because his alter ego is now the most hated being on the planet still appeals to me. Maybe I'm just retro on that point.

14:50 / 18.06.07

We can always get back to that stuff, for now however, SMASH!

18:57 / 18.06.07

Tony Stark injected the Hulk with nanobots to supress Hulk's powers during the fight. So it's a matter of time til Hulk becomes Banner again.

I just hope Hulk refers to the nanobots as "puny" at some point.

19:30 / 18.06.07

nice one!

Shiny: Well Over Thirty

19:39 / 18.06.07

who's laying bets he pounds Sentry in to the ground and snaps a few limbs

Maybe this means that my inner child is a brutal little shit, but I get a real sense of childish glee at the idea of this happening. All the others are assuming Sentry can take the Hulk if he has to, so I'd love to see him fly in and be reduced to a broken wreck in about 10 panels. The way they are showing the Hulk in this series I think he should be able to take Mr Bloody Explody Suns down a peg or two.

With regards to the huge power-up the Hulk seems to have received to make this series credible I'm down with it. The Hulk has always been exactly as strong and tough as he needs to be to make whatever story they want to tell with him work. Which is exactly as it should be as far as I'm concerned.

Our Lady Has Left the Building

11:55 / 19.06.07

There was a period in time when when the Hulk got really mad, he transformed into the Hulk's mind in Bruce Banner's body. I think Leonard Samson is going to have a lot of explaining to do to people for stopping that happening.

Shiny: Well Over Thirty

12:51 / 19.06.07

I thought that was one of the few times a really destructive version of the Hulk has gotten out of some sort of confinement that's not on good old Len. I think that one changed when Bruce got a lump of shrapnel lodged in his skull mid-transformation, then turned into a slightly paler green, more unstable version of the merged Hulk, and threatened to turn into the Maestro, during Ghosts of the Future.

06:22 / 21.06.07

We are wasting our lives.

07:49 / 21.06.07

Sssh don't spoil it

13:27 / 21.06.07

Did anyone read the latest Incredible Hulk? The Seventh Smartest Person on the Planet? Hercules gets email? Crazed Hulk worshippers? I'm sorry, but as much as I was dreading this: when did Marvel get fun again?

Elijah, Freelance Rabbi

14:13 / 21.06.07

when did Marvel get fun again?

When they brought back the fucking Hulk!

Shiny: Well Over Thirty

19:14 / 21.06.07

We are wasting our lives.

Ach. That big chunk O' my life I wasted memorizing the events of over ten years of the Incredible Hulk, back in secondary school when I didn't have many friends other than Bruce, I'm not getting that back, so way I see it, I might just as well enjoy having bags of unnecesary knowledge of a midly intriguing comic book character.

21:24 / 21.06.07

Ah, Qalyn just just jealous: he doesn't have a life to waste

Fnark!

08:12 / 22.06.07

Stole some of the tie ins (I'm not buying 232 different books Joey Q) and they were not as fun. The Hulk issue was fun, with some good Hercules one liners, and a decent Hecules beat down. The Iron Man issue sucked. It was just WWH issue 1 with Tony narrating and worse art. The Ghost Rider issue was ridiculous and he never even met the Hulk, they're supposed to fight next issue I think. Joey Q, the only thing I really wanna see in these tie ins is the different ways Hulk beats down the characters in their books.

19:55 / 23.06.07

... Except that I have a horrible feeling that the Hulk coming back was Stark and Richards's plan 50-something, and that they've factored it into the Skrull 'invasion', etc etc, so Hulk'll get over his differences and go on a skrull-killing bender or somesuch.

If it turns out Hulk is really going to mash the Marvel Universe into paste, though, so much the better.

Or... What if Hulk is a skrull sleeper agent, convinced he is Bruce Banner / Hulk, and Banner's been hidden in a bunker in Nevada all the time while they wait for the plan to come out?

What if I just stop speculating, right now? Would that be good? Yes? Ok then!

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