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Britpop, ten years on

 
  

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Janean Patience
17:06 / 24.04.07
Everyone's fighting. It's just like the good old days of Britpop, where you could get glassed over a discussion of guitar lines outside Camden's own The Good Mixer. I'm so proud to have brought the magic back.

Copey's Brick: There was certainly a buzz about nationalistic pride which for the first time i can remember didn't feel jingoistic - more a culteral identity of inclusion and celebration of ecentricity (Jarvis, John Peel etc. you weren't gonna get your head kicked in at a Pulp gig). It felt good to point out the pomposity of the whiney american grunge stars and have pop stars that liked to dress up again, it felt good to have the news talk about the bands that i liked.

This is approximately how I feel. It seems every few years bands decide, rather than eschewing the crass commercialism of the charts, that they'll embrace success instead. Rather than making music for themselves that if anyone else likes it's a bonus, they decide to reach people with a commercial poppy single (The Beach Boys are often invoked at this point) and then freak them out with uncompromised album tracks. Which means a lot of bands make a lot of pop singles and some of them capture a spark.

johnny enigma: However, most of those bands listed in the thread summary were pretty cack, weren't they?

Yeah, but that's the point. Sleeper will, at best, be a footnote in pop history. That doesn't stop a couple of their songs, in my perhaps over-generous opinion, being melodic and evocative and lovely. Because they're crap, almost, rather than despite of it.

As I said at the top, this was all inspired by The Sound of the Suburbs, a compilation you should check out if you like pop music. The title track, by The Members, is very close to failure. It squanders the energy and ideological capital of punk on moaning about the boredom of being middle-class and the next-door neighbour washing the car. And if you've got a pronounced lisp, singing a song called The Thound of the Thuburbs probably isn't a good idea. But despite that there's a spark there, something that makes it wonderful even though it's an unmistakable product of one specific place and time, when punk sank beneath the consumerism of the 80s. It's at once an epitaph and a summnation of what went wrong.

Inform the missing pingles act: Oh, and on the compilation, personal favourites from bands not yet mentioned would be The Auteurs and Marion. Oh, and Gene! Aww, Gene.

The Auteurs have made the first draft after the same song was suggested by a work colleague. Neither Gene and Marion are turning up on my searches. (Gene: didn't one of their singles supposedly have a limited run of 1996 copies or some shit?) That makes them in some way unobvious, I'm afraid.

And did you know your name's an anagram of Fetching Slim Impregnations?

Of course you know. You know only too well.

Saveloy: The request was for "the most obvious" and, well, I don't like it any more than you do but 'Wake Up Boo' was bloody everywhere, wasn't it? Your objection has been noted but, I'm sorry, it must be included.

My partner said it wasn't Britpop last night. I'm inclined to agree because I never want to hear it again, but inwardly I feel it rings all the bells.

This is what I've put together:

The Verve, Bittersweet Symphony
Catatonia, Road Rage
Suede, Animal Nitrate
Supergrass, Alright
Sleeper, Sale of the Century
Manic Street Preachers, A Design For Life
The Auteurs, Lenny Valentino
Kula Shaker, Tattva
Elastica, Connection
The Bluetones, Slight Return
Oasis, Live Forever
Pulp, Common People
Paul Weller, Wild Wood
Echobelly, Insomniac
Cast, Walk Away
Lush, Single Girl
Blur, To The End
Space, Me and You Vs The World
Shed Seven, Going For Gold


Don't assume bands are there because I like them. I hate some of what's above. And this is approximately CD length, so any new tracks suggested will require substitutions.

And Alex's Grandma, a visit to Wikipedia reveals that Rick Witter is fine. He's currently fronting a band called Rick Witter and the Dukes; a band whose selling point, bizarrely, is Rick Witter. Digest that.
 
 
haus of fraser
17:59 / 24.04.07
I'd replace Lenny Valentino with The Auteurs 'Junk Shop Clothes'-

surely for the lines:

Junk shop clothes
Will get you nowhere
They're out of season


Totally appropriate given the context of the compilation and IMHO their best tune.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
18:51 / 24.04.07
Elastica were more linked into the whole NWONW thing, weren't they? Not that I can remember which other bands got lumped in there, mind.

S*M*A*S*H*E*D and These Animal Men, primarily, but to be honest it wasn't much of a scene.

Oh, and Sophie Ellis-Bextor was in The Audience, whose "A Pessimist is Never Disappointed" should possibly fit into such a compilation, also, especially as, like "To The End", it had a French version on the B-side, for extra pretension.

I can't believe people are forgetting about Salad, by the way - a band who by not even selling out successfully surely epitomise Britpop. "Motorbike to Heaven" by them, and "Aphrodisiac" by Powder. Then you have to start wondering about Bis and Kenickie... too young for Britpop? Too not ass?

From the compilation above, The Verve weren't really Britpop - in fact, the bloated, "authentic" Cast/mid-Oasis/Verve/Kula Shaker axis of evil should generally be excluded as uninterested in Britishness. Paul Weller should be shot in the cock, but probably creeps aboard.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
19:17 / 24.04.07
Ah, yeah. S*M*A*S*H*. They were alright up to and including their mini-LP, actually. The album proper was rubbish.

Riz: Was there a generic Britpop sound? - it's notable that most of the bands name-checked in this thread actually sound quite different from each other (within the limitations of mainstream-acceptable guitar pop).

Been thinking about this more since you posted that and... yeah, I think there was. Two, though, not one, and each taking its cues from, again, Blur and Oasis at the time of the Country House/Roll With It fiasco. On the one hand you've got jaunty middle class pop guitar, either fronted by a mockney accent or somebody heavy on the RP, with some nasty, snobbish and snide lyrical content. That's your Echobellies, your Sleepers. On the other, you've got music that latches into the Loaded mindset and doesn't have any truck with anything that isn't a 'real' instrument (kind of like a pop version of the Campaign for Real Ale) - blokes and birds, booze, thudding dullness - Toploader, Catatonia, Weller.

Class has already been brought up, hasn't it? I think what you're looking at are two groups of... well, groups, that feed off and back into their own stereotypical notions of the south of England / the middle class and the north of England / the working class.
 
 
Pingle!Pop
06:13 / 25.04.07
Hmm. As per Haus to some extent, of the above list the majority I wouldn't really consider Britpop, even ignoring the Oasis-blindness I have. Most - The Verve, Catatonia, Manics, Kula Shaker, The Bluetones, Cast, Space and Shed Seven - if my mental chronology is correct were bands who happened to have commercially successful singles around the time it was dying, while Pulp were releasing a very un-Britpop Britpop hangover album. Paul Weller was pre-Britpop really - an inspiration for Blur's attempts at creating some kind of working class mod image, but not much else as far as I'm aware.

Which leaves, in my mind, Suede, Supergrass, Sleeper, The Auteurs, Elastica, Oasis, Pulp, Echobelly, Lush and Blur. Does this sound about right to anyone else, or am I for the most part just excising bands I don't like so that I can believe Britpop was actually mostly good and not represented by Shed Seven and bloody Kula Shaker?

I'd definitely say Gene were integral enough to the "scene" (at least in journalistic terms) at the time that they should definitely have a place; they were probably bigger than Echobelly and Lush at least. Marion were never big, although I occasionally hear Sleep played in clubs, so perhaps wouldn't make your list on "obviousness" grounds. They did however definitely tie into the scene and have a britpoppy (well, pop and vaguely Suede-esque) sound.

The omission of Menswear is surely unforgivable; they may have been Britpop's biggest flop story but they were definitely a big Britpop story. And absolutely everyone knows Daydreamer, which, other material aside, is great.

Looking through my mp3s for other possible inclusions... Kenickie maybe? They're a bit later but not too much and very Britpop in sound. My Life Story? Strangelove (right time, kind-of right sound, fairly strong Suede connection)?

Strangely enough, I'd not known the anagram. Did you go find an anagram machine so you could tell me that?
 
 
Alex's Grandma
07:29 / 25.04.07
JP,

While it's good to hear that Rick Witter's doing all right these days, I can't help but fear for his legacy, at least as anything other than a vaguely fashionable mid-Nineties reference point for, you know, approaching the throne.

It's easy enough to laugh about this sort of thing, and Pop music takes no prisoners, but still, how does Rick Witter deal with the possibility of his childrem arriving back from the smallest room, via school, with information they want to share, on this subject?

It must be something that vexes him a bit -

'Daddy, I'm off to the Rick ...'

'Bathroom, darling. You're going to the bathroom'
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
09:27 / 25.04.07
I've been giving some thought to compiling a tape which I would consider to be truly representative of Britpop (and handily, have some old and terrible comps here which I can refer to). I think for it to be truly representative you'd have to have some bad things on there (& I know this isn't quite what you meant, Janean, but this is how I remember it). So here are some, er, representative suggestions:

Bluetones, 'Slight Return'
Salad, 'Drink the Elixir'
My Drug Hell, 'Girl at the Bus-stop'
Nancy Boy, 'Johnny Chrome & Silver'
Marion, 'Sleep'
Gene, 'Haunted by You'
Thurman, 'Famous' (or possibly 'English Tea', the worst song ever written)
Whiteout, 'Jackie's Racing'
Heavy Stereo, 'Sleep Freak' (another truly dire effort)
60ft Dolls, 'Stay'
My Life Story, 'Girl A, Girl B, Boy C'
Powder, yes, 'Aphrodisiac'
Menswear, 'I'll Manage Somehow'

Then you'd want to include some songs by the bigger bands who have already been discussed - Blur ('End of a Century'?), Pulp - I think I'd go for 'Babies' or maybe 'Lipgloss' here, or 'Monday Morning', which I always used to request; Elastica, probably 'Line Up' or 'Waking Up'. Suede, I think 'Heroine' but perhaps 'New Generation'. And perhaps 'Just' by Radiohead as well, though I'm not sure that Radiohead fit in here... And I suppose Shed 7, Kula Shaker, Ocean Colour Scene (urgh) et al.

For authentic Pompey indie night club c. 1995, you need to add in something New Romantic, maybe 'Fade to Grey' or 'Planet Earth', 'You Love Us' by the Manics, and some awful crap like Reef which I wouldn't wish on anyone's comp.
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
09:32 / 25.04.07
I forgot 'Hypocrite' by Lush, one of their best.
 
 
Spaniel
10:01 / 25.04.07
Sav: Your objection has been noted but, I'm sorry, it must be included.

I'll cry. I will!
 
 
Pingle!Pop
11:00 / 25.04.07
KKC, while your Blur/Pulp/Suede/Elastica suggestions are some of their best... erm, Heroine for a Britpop compilation? It's brilliant, but it's not exactly commercial hit material and I've definitely never heard it on the radio or in a club or seen it on a compilation. New Generation is slightly closer, but really, I think describing anything off Dog Man Star as even vaguely Britpop, let alone quintessentially so, is a bit of a stretch. Similarly, I'm rather fond of End of a Century, but it's not quite full of pop bounce.
 
 
johnny enigma
11:00 / 25.04.07
The New Wave Of New Wave! How can I forget - These Animal Men or S*M*A*S*H, anyone? Both produced sterling debut ep's in my book!

Elastica started off as being lumped in with all that but are now seen as Britpop for two reasons (as far as I can gather) - they outlived the NWONW scene and made it into the Britpop era when people actually started having hits and Justine went out with two of the major Britpop players - Damon Albarn and the faux bisexual from Suede.

My Britpop compliation would definitely have to have "Caught By The Fuzz" by Supergrass on it......
 
 
Janean Patience
11:41 / 25.04.07
Arranging my first draft chronologically, based entirely on possibly erroneous information from Wikipedia...

Suede, Animal Nitrate 14/9/92
Paul Weller, Wild Wood 1993
Echobelly, Insomniac 3/1994
The Auteurs, Lenny Valentino 1994
Blur, To The End 30/5/1994
Oasis, Live Forever 8/8/1994
Supergrass, Alright 1995
Elastica, Connection 1995
Cast, Walk Away 1995
Pulp, Common People 6/1995
Lush, Single Girl 1/1996
Manic Street Preachers, A Design For Life 15/4/1996
Shed Seven, Going For Gold 3/1996
Sleeper, Sale of the Century 5/1996
Kula Shaker, Tattva 5/1996
The Bluetones, Slight Return 1996
Space, Me and You Vs The World 1996
The Verve, Bittersweet Symphony 16/6/97
Catatonia, Road Rage 1998


...it seems Catatonia are the odd ones out. I'd always thought of the Verve track as the last hurrah of Britpop, one last epic inspired by the past and indeed written by the Stones. I included it on that basis. Now I find the ephemeral pop of Catatonia comes later, which ruins my justifications a little.

Randy: music that latches into the Loaded mindset and doesn't have any truck with anything that isn't a 'real' instrument (kind of like a pop version of the Campaign for Real Ale) - blokes and birds, booze, thudding dullness - Toploader, Catatonia, Weller.

Weller fits musically, and I quite liked that album at the time, but he's be a prime candidate for the chop. I must dispute your bundling of Catatonia onto the same bandwagon, though. They were out to make pop music in the classic sense, songs that captured a moment, that were infectious for a month and forgotten thereafter. Mulder and Scully was dated within the year it came out, and who gets road rage these days?

pingles: Am I just excising bands I don't like so that I can believe Britpop was actually mostly good and not represented by Shed Seven and bloody Kula Shaker?

I hate Kula Shaker myself, but they're definitely Britpop. Not in the sense of obsessed with Britain, because they weren't, but obsessed with a particular ear of British music (in their case George Harrison discovers the sitar) and recreating it as closely as they can. The Shed Seven track is good, honestly. It's got that one-hit-wonder wonder, a song rising above the sum of its lumpen parts to touch greatness.

(Re the anagram. I was on an anagram site anyway. I thought "Where can I find a collection of random words to rescramble?" Then I thought, "Barbelith." Your name was the longest.)

The Manics and Weller should probably go as being merely contemporaneous, Menswear should be added as should something by Ash, I will heroically resist the Boo Radleys and put up with Cast and Kula Shaker. The Blur, Oasis, Echobelly, Elastica songs could all be different. I don't even remember Salad which arbitarily rules them out. I think there's a compilation there.
 
 
Saveloy
12:11 / 25.04.07
Janean Pictures:

"Blur, To The End"

Madness! I WILL NOT ACCEPT THIS. It has to be Girls & Boys. "Most obvious."

"Sleeper, Sale of the Century"

[sigh] You might not be taking this seriously but there's no need to spoil it for the rest of us. It must be Inbetweener.

"The Manics and Weller should probably go as being merely contemporaneous"

Yes, definitely. Weller was part of the subsequent "Dad Rock" business - aka The Campaign for Real Rock, which Randy alluded to but which I think of as being separate from Britpop - the "enough of this pop silliness" backlash. Cast and The Bluetones were more Dad Rock than Britpop as well, as I recall, so they must go as well.

"Menswear should be added"

DEFINITELY. And it's got to be Daydreamer, as mentioned before. It is *the* quintessential Britpop track - after, um, Girls & Boys and Inbetweener.

"as should something by Ash"

No. Ash were contemporaneous. Too noisy for Britpop.

I would also cull that Suede track for being too early. In fact I wouldn't have anything by anybody pre-1994. And surely the Auteurs were too grumpy and iconoclastic to be Britpop?

"I will heroically resist the Boo Radleys"

[sweeps huge pile of books, papers, mugs etc from desk and storms out of room]
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
12:17 / 25.04.07
"Going for Gold" is all wrong, as well, surely? "Mark" or "Dolphin"...
 
 
Glenn Close But No Cigar
12:36 / 25.04.07
Britpop's a funny one. I thnk there's some very interesting stuff in Albarn's 'Modern Life is Rubbish' formulation, which (forgive me if I've missed it) doesn't seem to have been mentioned in this thread at all yet... If anything, it seemed very 'Lucky Jim' / 'If...', rather than Swinging London. Dark and strangely mournful.

Anyway, some suggestions for a compilation:

Blur - Popscene
Elastica - Vaseline
Suede - The Drowners
The Verve -History
theaudience - If You Can't Do It When You're Young, When Can You Do It?
Pulp - I Spy
Corduroy - London, England (for the under-recognised Acid Jazz element to Britpop)
Oasis - Live Forever
James - Laid
The La's - Feelin'
Menswear - Daydreamer
Saint Etienne - Hobart Paving
Ash - Girl From Mars
 
 
Pingle!Pop
12:45 / 25.04.07
No! Not too grumpy and iconoclastic! The Auteurs stay!

No, really though, they do have to. And I don't think they're out of place at all - the nastiness isn't a far cry from a lot of Pulp, and the tunes are definitely pop joy.

Agreed that Manics and Weller = definitely out as being merely contemporaneous, not actually part of the movement. Was Everything Must Go really that long ago? Christ.

I think Animal Nitrate is the perfect Suede track, as it was arguably the opener for the whole movement in a sense. If you really think the first album is too early, then the only choice really left is Trash. Or Beautiful Ones I suppose, but Trash is great and Beautiful Ones isn't particularly.

And I still really think the last five songs on that playlist (and to a lesser extent Cast) never really had much to do with Britpop at all. The last two are at least post-Blur's Blur (Death of a Party), by which point Britpop as represented by Suede, Pulp, Elastica et al. was surely well and truly dead. Gene, though, really should be on there - the music press were definitely heavily tying them in at the time, and they fit in well with the fey side of things.

Oh, and agreed with Saveloy that "To the End" = not really very representative. Girls and Boys, I'm afraid, is indeed much more so. I back Sale of the Century over Inbetweener, though, just because I love it.

And johnny enigma? Please stop being so horrible about Brett, he's lovely. And besides, the "fake bisexual" thing is a bit of a rubbish criticism anyway. I'm not sure about the assertion earlier that "bisexual man who's never had a homosexual experience" may have been perfectly true, but it was a case of words being put in his mouth - an interviewer asked if he'd describe himself as that and he replied something along the lines of, "Yeah, I guess so."
 
 
Janean Patience
13:01 / 25.04.07
Saveloy, I've hurt you and that was the last thing I wanted to do. I thought I'd be sparing the board the minutae of my thought processes by not going over every single track. Instead it seems I've trampled your feelings in the gutter and spat gum in their metaphorical hair. Forgive me.

So yes, Girls and Boys by Blur. I'll swap Live Forever for Wonderwall to get a ballad on there. It does have to be Inbetweener, you're right, and that's not a problem because I like both. Cast I think has to stay on there. I hated them at the time, though that's faded a little now, but they are Britpop. They follow in Oasis' well-worn rut. (I'm just glad nobody's suggested Ocean Colour Scene.) The Bluetones were definitive one-song wonders in the same vein. Neither would be my first choices.

Daydreamer will go on. I'll swap Connected for Waking Up on the ground that the latter was the biggest hit and reduce the obviously-ripped-off-from-Wire quotient. Happy to leave Ash off as I like Ash and play their singles album quite often anyway. Suede have to be represented, the first single looks too early but Stay Together and the Dog Man Star stuff (which I prefer) are wilfully epic and wouldn't fit.

I will download the Boo Radleys. I'll try to listen to them. I'll see if they fit. I suppose if it's Wake Up Boo or Kula Shaker... god, what a terrible choice for anyone to have to make.

Haus, I will not change my mind on Shed Seven. Their Wikipedia entry makes it comically apparent that Going for Gold was their only decent song, as the record company urged them to release it again and again and made them name their greatest hits album after it and everything. I think it sums up the Britpop mentality. Going for a gold record, getting a brass section in, selling your integrity for a moment's notoriety.

Anyway, I've got to have one song named after a gameshow and Saveloy's vetoed Sale of the Century. That might be a theme for a compilation... Sweet's Blockbuster, isn't that Des'ree one called Wheel of Fortune?
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
13:26 / 25.04.07
Saveloy, I think the Bluetones went Dadrock after a short while, but the first single (which I think was Bluetonic/Slight Return - ?) was pushed by the press as being Britpoppy - it was shortly after they'd been on tour with Supergrass, I think. I think they count, anyway.

You're all probably right about Dog Man Star not being right for a Britpop comp - it's what I remember from the time, which is why I suggested it, just as the contemporaneous Manics stuff would be 'Faster', etc. (much more suitable than Granny's suggestions of 'The Intense Humming of Evil' on p. 1 of this thread).

If there were to be an Ash track, I think it would have to be 'Kung Fu' - and I don't think they're too rocky for a Britpop comp, 'Girl from Mars', 'Angel Interceptor' etc. are pop-rock, really, aren't they? But if JP has decided that they're out, they're out...

I wouldn't class the Verve with this lot either, any more than Spiritualized (or the Manics, tbh). And FWIW I went to see Catatonia much earlier than 1998 (they were playing the Wedgewood Rooms so I imagine it was - 1996?) so they probably do fit into the timeframe - you'd just have to go for 'You've Got a Lot to Answer For' or something.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
13:47 / 25.04.07
"Lost Cat" or "All Girls Are Fly", maybe?
 
 
Spaniel
14:04 / 25.04.07
I second Dolphin for Shed Seven. Much better than Going for Gold.

I was quite the fan of Shed 7 for a while there. That was one of the worst years of my life however.

Girls & Boys is essential.
 
 
Spaniel
14:06 / 25.04.07
Also, please no Wake Up Boo or Kula Shaker.

Remember this has to be enjoyable as well as accurate.
 
 
Janean Patience
14:12 / 25.04.07
But surely the songs around them will be the better for it? "Every Rose Has Its Thorn"?
 
 
Spaniel
14:14 / 25.04.07
Balls!
 
 
Quantum
14:18 / 25.04.07
Why not just dig out your old comp tapes? Janean, your reconstruction is looking eerily similar to the tape we used to listen to in the car back then.
 
 
Quantum
14:18 / 25.04.07
Also, please no Wake Up Boo or Kula Shaker.
 
 
Quantum
14:20 / 25.04.07
If there were to be an Ash track, I think it would have to be 'Kung Fu'

Ooh, it's a toss up between that and Girl from Mars surely? Either makes me happy.
 
 
Saveloy
14:23 / 25.04.07
That's it, Janean, stand your ground! Boboss is just trying to take advantage of the fact that we're all tired and we want to go home. Let's not weaken now - I really think we're close to a resolution.

I agree with Kit-Cat about the Verve being non-Britpop. But I still think Ash should be out too - they *were* pop rock but their influences were mostly american, namely Dinosaur Jr and Sonic Youth.

I'm sure there's a big 'one hit wonder' that we've all missed. Damned if I can remember the name of either the band or the tune but the cover of the single was a bit of a Pulp rip-off - woman in cheesy 70s style dress (brown, paterned) in 70s style bedroom. Hints of soft porn... Ring any bells?
 
 
Spaniel
14:32 / 25.04.07
Were they called "Wake Up Boo makes us cry 'cause it's shit"?
 
 
Mike Modular
14:39 / 25.04.07
Re: Catatonia: Yes, they were around for a while before they got big. Their early singles (I've never had an album, so can't comment) were pretty good: For Tinkerbell, Bleed, Lost Cat, Sweet Catatonia. Not very Britpop though. But all the better for it...

Re: Gameshow comp: don't forget Wipeout or Countdown (by Pulp)

Fable of the Bees: Corduroy! Of course! Great track.

I guess everyone's going to be coming up with different mixes and suggestions, due to personal taste/memory and whether or not they can bear certain songs/artists in the name of historical accuracy. And that's fun. So, I'll happily add my tuppenceworth...

I can't really argue with JP's mix, as it appears to be shaping up, in terms of being representative of the time. But then, so were those Shine and Best..In The World compilations (eugh!) I'm glad we're curtailing things around '97, when some real shit was starting to take off (Seahorses and Stereophonics, anyone...?).

I guess my personal experience/journey of Britpop went from being a teenage NME/MM/Select reader who followed the development from Suede and the NWONW bands, to being a student when Britpop proper hit the mainstream (which was fun for a bit) and ultimately, like Rizla, back to the more DIY roots (whilst TFI Friday hammered the nails into the coffin and I washed off the stink of Heavy Stereo - I am incredibly ashamed to say that I think I did have their single). I think it's safe to say that quite a few of us here may have lost full use of our critical judgement, temporarily, in the Britpop wilderness...

Anyway, here then is my own alternate/revisionist/personal mix, which crosses some of the same terrain (and plays slightly loose with chronology) before veering off to a rather different destination...

Blur - Popscene
Suede - Animal Lover
Saint Etienne - You're In A Bad Way
Pulp - Razzmatazz
Denim - Middle of the Road
Auteurs - Lenny Valentino
Elastica - Never Here
Sleeper - Swallow*
Boo Radleys - C'mon Kids
Kenickie - Come Out 2nite
Bis - Kandy Pop
Helen Love - Long Live the UK Music Scene

(*I'm allowed the one guilty pleasure...)
 
 
Saveloy
14:41 / 25.04.07
NO.

Got it: Longpigs - "She Said"
 
 
Saveloy
14:43 / 25.04.07
Damn, this thread is moving too quickly. My "NO" was in response to Boboss. Sorry for crosspost.
 
 
ZF!
14:51 / 25.04.07
Pulp's "Do You Remember the First Time" is more quintessentially "Britpop" than "Common People" ever will be! So what if it sold more copies?

And, for crying out loud, "Saturn 5" Inspiral Carpets, how the hell can that not be included on a "Britpop" compilation???
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
14:53 / 25.04.07
Because it's basically Baggy.
 
 
Spaniel
14:54 / 25.04.07
Common People is better. It wins.
 
 
ZF!
14:56 / 25.04.07
Ash.

Influenced by Dinosaur Jr. and Sonic Youth?

I'll give you they were more punky, but they had way more in common with "Britpop" than either of those two bands.
 
  

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