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Heroes - Season 1 (UK)

 
  

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Evil Scientist
12:48 / 19.02.07
As with Battlestar Galactica there are probably a lot of people who are already watching this show either in the US or via downloads. This thread is for those of us in the UK who want to discuss the show episode-by-episode as it goes out.

So, the basic premise is normal people develop super-powers. The trailers don't give us much to go on beyond the core cast's possible powers and a rather cool image of the Japanese businessman watching a wave of destruction sweep through the city towards him.

Reports from the US seem to indicate this is more Lost than it is Mutant X.

First two episodes premier tonight. Let's go from there and see what happens. No spoilers though people, although speculation on information gathered from the show and trailers is fine.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
20:03 / 19.02.07
Speaking as someone who is getting the episodes on the download I would just like to say to anyone who was put off by the pilot to give it a few more episodes before deciding one way or another. There's a hell of a lot of information to put out and I didn't feel they managed to get this across in a thoroughly entertaining way (apart from HIRO!1!) but it gets better.
 
 
Mysterious Transfer Student
21:56 / 19.02.07
Early observations:

I love Ali Larter's crappy old car and already have a hankering for one just like it.

It's that woman from Seaquest DSV! With the creepy blue eyes, hanging with Sophie from Carnivale. She always had that 'sexy zombie' look we love so much.

And it's nice to know the secrets of superhumanity can be kept on a 512mb hard drive.
 
 
Mysterious Transfer Student
22:06 / 19.02.07
(One newspaper headline and explosion later)

All right, enough silliness. That was a fucking good way to end a second episode. I think I'm going to stick with this. Prediction number one: Mohinder's doe-eyed new girlfriend will turn out evil surprisingly soon.
 
 
Mouse
01:32 / 20.02.07
(sneaking in from Yank-land: don't give up after a few episodes like I did -- you'll only have to catch up later when you realise it's fantastic)
 
 
Evil Scientist
07:32 / 20.02.07
I found it quite refreshing that the pilot went straight in with the majority of the posthuman cast members either knowing about their powers or, at least, having a suspicion. It kept it all moving at a good pace in my view.

Out of everyone I'm liking Hiro, Claire, and Niki the best at the moment (and not just because of the high gore quotient of their adventures so far).

Hiro's probably the person I identify with the most anyway (naturally, he's a comic book geek with super-powers). But anyone who has a line like "I've just broken the space/time continuum!" gets my vote. I'm wondering if his little jaunt into the future happened because of lack of experience or distance (does he go further into the future the further he tries to travel?).

Nikki's storyline is less developed at the moment, obviously intentionally. But there's nothing quite like a super-powered, psychotic alter-ego to give the story some spice (I'm thinking super-strength/dexterity by the way). Whilst she's obviously not going to turn out to be Sylar, she has equally obviously been channelling her inner super-villain.

As an aside: Sylar's our first real super-villain and by the looks of things an awesome telekinetic.

Got to love Claire's willingness to test the limits of her regeneration (hand in the trash grinder, nice!). I may be having a bit of a Buffy moment in my liking of cheerleader with super-powers but I'm unrepentant there.

As to the others; The Flying Petrelli's seems like it could develop into an interesting arc (posthuman in the White House anyone?), and they'll be linking in with Isaac's story too (although the "tortured artist with a power that's more curse than blessing" is a little bit much for me. I suppose it's a good thing he hasn't yet drawn himself with his brain scooped out).

Telepathic policeman needs a bit more development (but getting his-self arrested for Sylar's crimes made me chuckle).
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
09:39 / 20.02.07
And with someone who I hadn't seen since she played a teenage lesbian in But I'm a Cheerleader!...
 
 
Benny the Ball
18:04 / 20.02.07
the kid is really annoying.

I like Hiro and I like the cop so far.
 
 
Evil Scientist
11:00 / 21.02.07
the kid is really annoying.

Well, the kid hasn't really done anything yet. It's a little early for me to get wound up by him (although he obviously lacks a sense of smell having been driven all day through the desert about a foot away from a torn-apart corpse).

I predict stuper-powers for him too at some point.

As a rule children in tv show bug me. So it may only be a matter of time.
 
 
Benny the Ball
11:37 / 21.02.07
He's super intellegent - and has super eye-rolling.

"Mummy why are we in the desert?"
"No reason hon, go back to sleep and when we get home I'll let you build your own computer"
rolls eyes
"okay mum"
 
 
Evil Scientist
11:50 / 21.02.07
He's super intellegent - and has super eye-rolling.

No real evidence of the super-brains yet (although it's possible what with him apparently getting bored by regular school). But his eye-rolling is certainly at a post-human level.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
12:22 / 21.02.07
Heroes seems to share both things I like (really high production values applied to a genre, on television, has previously been somewhat pulpy or associated with much lower production values) and things I dislike (excessively po-faced "woooo, this is mystical and profound!" tone) with Lost - but unlike Lost, it already appears to have a plot (rather than a bunch of vague pseudo-meaningful loose ends waved in front of the audience's face in the hope a few of them will grab our attention). I'm enjoying it so far, particularly Jim motherfucking Profit as the asshole politician and Niki Hyde SMASH!
 
 
Mysterious Transfer Student
21:26 / 21.02.07
Gnnnnhh.... watching the repeat, idly Googled for info about Niki's stupid car and already I bring myself a nice, fat spoiler. Be strong, people.
 
 
Spaniel
18:41 / 22.02.07
excessively po-faced "woooo, this is mystical and profound!" tone

Agree totally. It's a problem I have with Hero, Lost and Galactica, but it bothers me the most in Hero as it's usually packaged in an awful pseudo-philosophical/scientific, cod-mystical voice-over (by the sheeiteist actor the world has ever seen).
 
 
Olulabelle
14:28 / 24.02.07
But it's a programme about superheroes! It has to be a bit cod-mystical! Possibly, some people around here know too much about mystical things, and superpowers and spooky forces like that. I expect that most of the rest of the audience are probably not heavy Kaballa hitters.

Scientifically it's deeply worrying. A generation of people are going to grow up muttering vague things about DNA tracking without having any idea what they're really talking about. As opposed to, say, Superman and his Kryptonite which makes sense in every way, oh yes.
 
 
Spaniel
15:12 / 24.02.07
It's the way the cod-mystical and cod-scientific are blended that drives me especially batty.

I'm loving Heroes at the moment, though.
 
 
Spaniel
15:13 / 24.02.07
...the US eps I mean
 
 
Mysterious Transfer Student
18:43 / 25.02.07
It's the way the cod-mystical and cod-scientific are blended that drives me especially batty.

Really not meaning to start any rows this early in the thread, but one might say that this is merely Heroes' take on some of the ideas floating around in the comic book mainstream nowadays - Grant 'morphic resonance and pixies are real, you know' Morrison and Warren 'I read non-fiction' Ellis have seen to that.

One might also agree that this tone is guaranteed to get on the living tits of anyone with any powers of irony - but still hold out hope that the various elements of the show will soon begin to make up for it. In particular I'm rather glad that the fanboy-pandering elements have all been funnelled into Hiro's segment of the show and have so far been confined to non-comics-based references, bar the odd X-Men gag.
 
 
Spaniel
19:17 / 25.02.07
Hey, as I say on balance I enjoy the show quite a lot.

I suppose the VOs tend to get on my nerves so much because science is sooooo badly represented in American popular culture (at least, the American popular culture I've been exposed to), throw in the deeply portentous tone, a wodge of flat acting, and a heavy-handed ponderous recap of the given episode's themes, television's huge reach (unlike TV shows, comics don't reach many, many millions of people weekly), and you have a recipe for irritated Bobossity.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
08:32 / 26.02.07
I rather suspect it's the fault of the actor concerned. Within the show itself he's not that bad. But originally the character was envisioned as being older, I rather suspect it was the dead father that was originally going to be researching the 'heroes' but this guy auditioned so well they rewrote it. But yes, it's no better or worse than most of the other mystical twaddle out there, and it doesn't last that long normally.
 
 
Benny the Ball
11:39 / 26.02.07
The voice over does kill the interest in an amazing way.
 
 
penitentvandal
19:23 / 26.02.07
I got really annoyed five minutes into the first ep where they had Mohinder trot out the whole 'ten per cent of our brains' thing. Not true! Meaningless in fact!

Still, on the evidence of the first two episodes it looks interesting, and it's nifty that Hiro's abilities allow them to do some cool non-narrative storytelling stuff.

Also: Hiro/Mohinder slash now, please. That is all.
 
 
Tim Tempest
02:23 / 27.02.07
Guys...Mohinder died!
 
 
Tim Tempest
02:45 / 27.02.07
OK...I was just buggin. Just wondering which ep you UKers were at. It gets better later in the season...so don't lose hope!
 
 
Evil Scientist
06:48 / 27.02.07
You know, I consider myself pretty unlucky if I sustain a minor burn or scrape once a month. Claire has now suffered two (normally) fatal injuries within the space of a couple of days. With luck that bad it's a good thing that she has her Logan Factor.

Hmm, Sylar's pretty tough isn't he? I was originally thinking telekinesis. Now I'm thinking he's got a massive range of powers (being Patient Zero he may well have every power that any of the other posthumans have, in which case the world's screwed).

Creepy moment for telepath cop dude in the bar with the fella he couldn't read.

It's obviously a bad idea to mention your abilities in the presence of FBI agents.
 
 
Spaniel
07:27 / 27.02.07
Guys...Mohinder died!

I wish.
 
 
penitentvandal
09:28 / 27.02.07
It's obviously a bad idea to mention your abilities in the presence of FBI agents.

Well, really, who doesn't know that?

I think it's fairly obvious Silar has all the powers (and possibly more) of the heroes, as it allows for Superhero Team Moral #1 to come into play - i.e. 'as powerful as the individual heroes may be, only teamwork can defeat the supervillain'.

Or they could just get Hiro to go back in time to when Silar was born and have the Psycho Woman punch Baby Silar to death...
 
 
Evil Scientist
10:28 / 27.02.07
Yeah, there is a strong chance of things getting very complicated with all the time-travel.

I'm wondering what's going on with Fratelli the Younger's powers. Could it be he doesn't have flight? Some kind of mimic power, or they can only fly in proximity to each other (one flashy loop-the-loop later and it's Fratelli pizza)?

Hiro's buddy's going to blow his top when he meets his favourite e-stripper's dark-side.
 
 
penitentvandal
12:49 / 28.02.07
Why? Does he even have a top? I certainly haven't seen one yet. And why would he blow him when he sees the Psycho Stripper? Would she make him do it?
 
 
Evil Scientist
12:59 / 28.02.07
I meant in a sort of fanboy "omigodshesgotsuperpowersandis reallyevil" way.

Basically how I'd act.
 
 
Spaniel
13:00 / 28.02.07
Own up, you were talking about spunking.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
20:16 / 28.02.07
Any thoughts on how to get hold of episode 3 over the interweb this evening would be very much appreciated ...
 
 
Alex's Grandma
20:20 / 28.02.07
As, in fact, I will be killed and my body recycled in Bernard Matthews's factory because I got the time of the repeat wrong.

Bittorrent ... other sites ... anything.

Anything.
 
 
Olulabelle
20:46 / 28.02.07
Dude. Go and have a look at Peekvid. It's all there.
 
 
Spaniel
20:46 / 28.02.07
Go to Torrentspy,search for Heroes, scroll down, find the episode (it's there, I checked) and do the torrenty thing.
 
  

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