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Hey, baby! I'm a satyr!

 
  

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We're The Great Old Ones Now
09:55 / 07.03.02
Look, look, see me play in the tall grass. Oooh, weee, I am carefree, lalalalala, wee.

Oh, was that a motorway?

Dearie me.
 
 
Mr Ed
11:18 / 07.03.02
quote:Originally posted by [monkey - greatest sage of all]:

The stuff I take pride in are the Euthanatos, Dreamspeakers, and Cult of Ecstacy Handbooks


You responsible for a Grant Morrison style NPC in the Orphans book then?

Loved the Ecstatic book. Searching for the divine through experience and orgasm? I'll have two of those and some cadburys chocolate please.

Hated the Dreamspeakers. All Shamans appeared to be either Native American,African or Aborigne, according to WW. No mention of fundamental roots of shamanic believe, and they short-changed the dreamtime (again).

That said, mage wise, I hated the idea of the closed boxes/traditions. (It's a game with a very flexible and fantastic magic system and limited setting. *sigh* More of an Over the Edge/Unknown armies person these days.)

So Mr Zoom dresses up a Satyr. why does that scare me?
 
 
Persephone
11:27 / 07.03.02
quote:Originally posted by Mordant C@rnival:

And three pages on, I'm still the only full-on satyr. I've got no one to frolic with.


And autopilot's a satyr, too... just won't own up to it. But should get a prize for this:

quote:Originally posted by autopilot disengaged:

i'm a cross-kither.
 
 
Sauron
11:54 / 07.03.02
Sidhe. Now kiss my ring.
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
12:05 / 07.03.02
Y'all should see my sidheburns and I'm just going to shut the fuck up now.
 
 
Haus about we all give each other a big lovely huggle?
12:06 / 07.03.02
Sidhe...could be the beauty or the beast.
Could be the famine or the feast....
 
 
QUINT
12:58 / 07.03.02
Darlings, you may lie back on your little wooded bowers and relax. Will Satyr is here to keep you safe and warm and panting like a sunstruck dalmation.

How many of us does that make?
 
 
rizla mission
13:11 / 07.03.02
quote:Originally posted by Jack The Bodiless:


Ain't it just? How's the search for big scrunchy hairbands coming along, anyway?


um, rather well actually .. they're so much better than the other, crappy ones..
 
 
Lothar Tuppan
14:34 / 07.03.02
quote:Originally posted by Mr Ed:

That said, mage wise, I hated the idea of the closed boxes/traditions. (It's a game with a very flexible and fantastic magic system and limited setting. *sigh* More of an Over the Edge/Unknown armies person these days.)



That's 'cause Mage is the 4 color superhero magic game. Lotsa light in that World of Darkness.

I always prefered Kult baby. Kult.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
15:14 / 07.03.02
quote:Originally posted by Good Will Hurting:
Darlings, you may lie back on your little wooded bowers and relax. Will Satyr is here to keep you safe and warm and panting like a sunstruck dalmation.

How many of us does that make?


Three and a bit. Yayyy! Fro-LIC! Fro-LIC! Fro-LIC!

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The Monkey
17:21 / 07.03.02
Mr Ed and Lothar -

guess why I quit? the entire open-but-not, dynamic-but-not thing was a fucking headache, and as a researcher with an accuracy/authenticity complex it was a bit crap to watch a pseudo-gothy, pseudo-fatbeard writers wank a bunch of intensely Western meanings onto everything I gave them. On the other hand, their very crude forcing of the "it's the journey, not the prize" thing was utterly spastic/ No you can't have a rollicking adventure, because the world is Doomed. (weep, paint fingernails black, listen to Bauhaus, or that one bit from Boris Godanov].

When they started their Slanty-eyed Munckin: the Orientalist Fantasy line, I walked, unable to decide whether it was more disgusting that their product line now featured supercharged [East] Asians kung-fu-gripping everything to death or that the entirity of White Wolf is in denial over their niche as a super-hero wish-fulfilment industry.

Not that there's anything wrong with super-hero wish fulfilment.

P.S. as two people who know the occult independent of RPGs, plz remember that your average gamer doesn't...hence the need to provide templates. and please recall that the majority of the history of magic is a shitfight, first between individuals, then groups, one the right way to do things...sort of Meistersinger von Nuremburg[/] meets [i]Hard-Boiled.

That being said, mr. ed - Dreamspeakers was a letdown in its final, published form. But you didn't see the pseudo-Cataneda tripe those nonces tried to pass along....
In the end I had to acqueisce to their easily digestible archetypes and geographic limitations...giving the public what they want...so all of my scary, morally-ambiguous, non-fluffy-bunny examples of shamanism, like in the Jali, the Navantes, or the Yanomamo, got thrown to the curb.

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grant
18:30 / 07.03.02
quote:Originally posted by Storm of Blue vs. Kiss-Kiss Bears:
I'm a pooka. Probably some sort of rabbit, or maybe a goat.


Harvey was a pooka.

Y'know, Jimmy Stewart's big rabbit friend.

Me = Eshu.
As in, what, eshu elegbara?

[monkeys ] - a South Asian rpg system might kick ass.
One thing I never saw tried that I'd love to do with D&D (if I ever played the damn thing again) is to do a *properly* Eurocentric game, with codes of chivalry and big scary Saracens and druids getting burned at the stake.

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Rage
18:35 / 07.03.02


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The Monkey
18:45 / 07.03.02


Yeah! I got the image thingy to work! Thanx for the tips Persephone!
Oh. And I cheated to get this one, just so everyone could see the whole range of possible answers. OF COURSE no gives enough shit answers to get this one.

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Less searchable M0rd4nt
18:50 / 07.03.02
quote:Originally posted by [monkey - greatest sage of all]:
I cheated to get this one, just so everyone could see the whole range of possible answers.


Huh. So you say.
 
 
The Monkey
18:53 / 07.03.02
Don't make me fly to England to just to bite your head off. [Redcaps can eat pretty much anything]
And I know some great Greek recipes for lamb that would probably work just as well for satyrs....

Anyway, I think it's abundantly obvious I'm a monkey-pooka. So go bother Pan or King Midas or something.

Anyway, I worked for the arr-pig (RPG) company that developed the game that this little survey is based on...so I know all.

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Lothar Tuppan
19:08 / 07.03.02
quote:Originally posted by [monkey - greatest sage of all]:

When they started their Slanty-eyed Munckin: the Orientalist Fantasy line, I walked, unable to decide whether it was more disgusting that their product line now featured supercharged [East] Asians kung-fu-gripping everything to death or that the entirity of White Wolf is in denial over their niche as a super-hero wish-fulfilment industry.


That was beautiful man.

quote:
P.S. as two people who know the occult independent of RPGs, plz remember that your average gamer doesn't...hence the need to provide templates.


My problem was never with the concept of templates, just the way the game world and psuedo comic-book/New Age Lila structure inevitably flavored the templates. It was like Jim Shooter era Marvel merged with late '80s Llewellyn publishing.

But then I was more of a 1st Ed. Vampire and Werewolf type of player.

quote:
and please recall that the majority of the history of magic is a shitfight, first between individuals, then groups, one the right way to do things...sort of Meistersinger von Nuremburg[/] meets [i]Hard-Boiled.


Damn straight. I loved the few magic/horror campaigns I played in that involved that sort of concept. COC, Kult, etc. I thought worked great for that. More so than Mage.

(Caveat: I've also met some people that have done some really amazing stuff with the Mage system. It just wasn't my cup of tea.)

I'm definitely glad you were there to put out as many fires as you could. I don't think that games or fiction should exactly mirror reality (anyone want to play 'Students and Wageslaves'?) but I also hate the complete misrepresentation of real world metaphysics. There shouldn't be anything wrong with accurate representations hyped up in such a way as to make a good game, story, etc.

Sounds like 'Dreamspeakers' (what a stupid name anyway) would have pissed me off a lot more than it did without the presence of good research.
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
19:18 / 07.03.02


Knodger?! You... return?!

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The Monkey
19:29 / 07.03.02
Lothar - precisely. "accuracy," not taken a legalist degree, provides depth and breadth that expand options and make people think more.

Funnily enough, I've never actually enjoyed being on the player side of things. Doing arrpig stuff was just an outlet for an urge to write fiction and tell wild stories, and get enthusiatic feedback: it's fun having an audience who really gets involved. I grew up on sprawling mythologies and epics, and somehow the narrative imbedded in the fantastic and the allegorical comes to me a lot easier than four-to-the-floor writing.

Of course I did WW a couple of times, and found everyone pretentious and over-acting. I once joined a D&D campaign, largely as an excuse to hang out with a dear friend you I almost never got to see...the entire joy of the weekly sessions lay in taking the piss out of the horribly self-important DM, who also had a slight lisp that made the entire scenario hard to be serious about.
 
 
The Monkey
19:48 / 07.03.02
And I'd like to declare my love for ephemerat, just 'casue you through in a Tom Waits reference from "9th and Hennepin"

Although Jack has a fairly alluring Nick Cave reference going in his favor....
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
09:02 / 08.03.02
quote:Originally posted by [monkey - greatest sage of all]:
the entire joy of the weekly sessions lay in taking the piss out of the horribly self-important DM, who also had a slight lisp


Christ, he must have got about. Maybe there should be a "self-important lisping DM" character class. Don't tell me- kept dragging his ludicrously hard pet NPC into the action? Am I right? Ha!

(I think I'll just shut up now.)
 
 
The Monkey
09:25 / 08.03.02
Your slip is showing, dear.
 
 
Tuna Ghost: Pratt knot hero
09:48 / 08.03.02
"Sluagh". I'm sure it's just a phase.
 
 
invisible_al
09:48 / 08.03.02
<Slanty-eyed Munckin: the Orientalist Fantasy>

Oh my god, that is poetry

I've played in an amzing Mage game, but even that had to seriously knock around a lot of the assumptions you get out of the Mage stuff. We had a hard time making the virtual adept Hax0r dudes in any way interesting.

Kult and Unknown Armies manage the 'hooks for your character' thing a lot better. Mainly because they don't have any of the fluffy pagan bullshit but also because they concentrate on the character rather than the cod magical tradition they're a member of.

Of course with Kult you can just say 'you're a victim in a horror film' and go from there.

Btw Mr Monkey, were you around when the idiots who did the Changeling supplement 'Isle of the Mighty' were around?
Yes Stonehenge is in Wales, the welsh use $ as currency and there aint no one creative in all of europe. Grrrrr.

*deep breath*

Have you caught anything of Legend of the Five Rings, its fantasy oriental nonsense but has a wonderful mood with proper honor system and the like. You genuinely get characters considering wether to end it all in a honorable fashion.

<Grant> I think the Euro game you're looking for is Ars Magica, 12th century wizards with Church politics and people waiting to burn you at the stake if you're too obvious. Oh yes Kabbalists and Saracens are optional.
 
 
grant
17:48 / 08.03.02
If I gamed anymore, I'd check it out.

I do remember somebody here posted a link to a supplement someone had done for the Vampire: The Masquerade game that kicked ass.
If Vampires = nephilim, the monstrous offspring of fallen angels and man, then what happened to those angels?
The supplement made them Gargoyles - and their only purpose was to redeem themselves by destroying vampires. Fun way to balance things out. They lived in churches, followed strict monastic codes.
 
 
invisible_al
18:54 / 08.03.02
http://ezinfo.ucs.indiana.edu/~adashiel/wod/wod.html

Click on Potporri and then Gargoyle: The Crusade, think thats what your looking for. Think I saw it on its own site once with some cool pictures but I can't find that link.

Nice idea but I've had any desire to play vampire driven from me by 5 years of vampire larp. Been there, done that, want to cool shiney heros instead, enough with the angst already
 
 
uncle retrospective
19:44 / 08.03.02
I'm a Pooka.
How the fuck did that happen. Opalfruit will be laughing his ass off.
 
 
Chuckling Duck
20:05 / 08.03.02
Any RPG lives or dies not on the strength of the system and materials, but on the creativity and friendship of the players. That said, I'm pretty fond of Mage, which for all its warts sets a grand stage and raises interesting existential issues. Good job, O child of Hanuman, for your contributions.

quote:Originally posted by [monkey - greatest sage of all]:
Now I'm in college - fourth year anthropology, minor in bio - soon to be a pysch grad [enshallah]. That takes most of my intellectual time.
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You're a Chicagoan, que no? If and when you need a break from the schoolwork, I'd be delighted to have you drop in on my own Mage game, which I've been spinning from stolen snippets of Alan Moore's Promethea and Philip K. Dick's VALIS.
 
 
Tuna Ghost: Pratt knot hero
20:17 / 08.03.02
quote:Originally posted by invisible_al:

Have you caught anything of Legend of the Five Rings, its fantasy oriental nonsense but has a wonderful mood with proper honor system and the like. You genuinely get characters considering wether to end it all in a honorable fashion.



I have friends who play the card game, and speak highly of it.
 
  

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