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New book about Grant Morrison's early career (Zenith, Animal Man, Doom Patrol)

 
  

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Mike Phillips
17:50 / 14.01.07
Hello everyone! My name is Mike Phillips. I'm the Editor-in-Chief of Sequart.com.

We're publishing a book next month that will deeply analyze Grant Morrison's early works: Zenith, Animal Man, Doom Patrol, Arkham Asylum, Gothic.

I'm here to talk about the book and the contents therein.

We also scored a phone interview with Grant for the book. The intereview was transcribed and it will be in the book as well.

Interested?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
18:11 / 14.01.07
How would you describe George's voice? A honeyed Scots burr, or more a treacly lowland trill?
 
 
rakker
18:18 / 14.01.07
Sure we're interested! Could you provide some extracts from the interview?
 
 
Eskay Uno
18:23 / 14.01.07
Hi and welcome! So what's the book called and where can I get it? Also, why focus on his early work? I would love to read about his later output - Flex Mentallo, Invisibles, JLA, Filth, NxM, etc. - Are you planning a sequel? What more can you tell us about this book that you think makes it interesting + worth buying?
 
 
Char Aina
18:33 / 14.01.07
OHMIGOD a phone interview!!!!!!1

dude, i totally live in the penthouse suite in the fanboy wing of his helicarrier, so you're totally going to have to do better than that if you expect me to buy some book.

sell it, baby, sell it.
 
 
Spaniel
18:37 / 14.01.07
Okay, what would you like to say about your book?

Bear in mind that if this, er, discussion doesn't veer towards comics sharpish I will be calling for a lock.
 
 
Triplets
19:25 / 14.01.07
Mike can be found here.

And he can be contacted directly... here.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
19:32 / 14.01.07
Do you mean that people with questions about this could address them directly to Seqart, rather than post them here, Triplets?
 
 
Jack Fear
19:38 / 14.01.07
But... But why should we do that? I mean, if Mike went to all the trouble of signing up for Barbelith, then surely he intends to be a prolific, active member of the community, right?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
20:42 / 14.01.07
Well, if everyone keeps hammering him like this, it's unlikely that we'll find out, isn't it? Either he is only interested in plugging this book, in which case fair enough, open season, or he has lots of other interests, which he may or may not find himself minded to discuss, but has not entirely understood the Barbelith attitude to spam - not entirely surprising, since it is itself somewhat incoherent.
 
 
Spaniel
20:57 / 14.01.07
It's a little difficult to take a guy called Sequart.com seriously, but, if you're reading this, Mike, I'm genuinely interested in your book, as long as you're genuinely interested in posting to this board.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
21:10 / 14.01.07
Seeing as Mr S hasn't actually mentioned what the book's called, I'm not sure if he can be reasonably accused of shameless self-promotion here.

To be honest, I'm just suprised that he managed to find a publisher, and would like to hear a bit more about that, as well as the contents, of course.
 
 
Ganesh
00:00 / 15.01.07
Could people stop taking sleazy potshots at someone who's actually spoken to Morrissey?
 
 
Char Aina
00:48 / 15.01.07
I'm not sure if he can be reasonably accused of shameless self-promotion here.

granny, dude.
a URL for a screen name?
 
 
stabbystabby
06:31 / 15.01.07
Your crystal ball may have a point, based on past experience. Normally what happens in these cases is that after the initial plug and people going "Dude, that was totally a plug" there is either

a) Deafening silence until the poster has something else to hawk; or

b) A huge meltdown involving the deployment of Power Words Free Speach, Nazi Mods and in extreme cases Your Mum, followed by Barbeseppuku or bannination.


still waiting to hear more.... can we move onto Your Mum soon?
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
08:31 / 15.01.07
Mike, or whomever's behind Seqtart.com, we're interested, sure. someone from the board had mentioned it in the Grant Morrison Interview Archive thread [please search for it].

please read Barbelith's FAQ regarding posting and promoting your stuff here. guess this tip's what was missing from previous posts. hope you can enjoy the board and post more as a member.
 
 
Mike Phillips
17:16 / 15.01.07
Whew, some of you guys/gals are pretty rough on the newbies around here!

Anyway, here's a link to some deleted scenes from the interview
(and by the way, to the dude who totally busted on me for promoting the fact that it's a PHONE interview: The reason I wrote that is because phone interviews are much more natural than the stiff email interviews I've read -- sorry for the lack of clarification)

The book will be available at the very end of February on Amazon.com

If you email me at mike@sequart.com, I can send you the cover (which I think looks pretty good if I do say so myself).

To answer a question I noticed on this thread: We chose his early career because we're planning on doing more than one book.
 
 
Mike Phillips
17:17 / 15.01.07
Oh and the book is called "Masters of the Medium: Grant Morrison"
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
17:18 / 15.01.07
I fear that once again Judge Judy Janus, Really and Truly and, frankly, all the really good stuff is going to get ignored.

If it weren't for Glint's encouragement, Cola Commandos would never have been written, you know.
 
 
Mike Phillips
17:21 / 15.01.07
One more thing. There are quite a few EARLY versions of the chapters online. Go here to read them:

Link

This should whet your appetites
 
 
Alex's Grandma
18:10 / 15.01.07
granny, dude.
a URL for a screen name?


I suppose. Perhaps it's my age, but it wouldn't have occurred to me to go to the trouble of actually checking that out, though.

I'm a bit gutted that Mike's (presumably) got George's phone number too (I'm still very angry with Haus over the Wifegate thing, and that was ages ago - how dare George notice him and not me ... So this, frankly, is torture,) but even so, isn't Mike taking a slightly undeserved-ish beating here? There are aspects of the project, after all, that seem interesting.

That said, these poor, arthiritc fingers can't be arsed to type in those web addresses - perhaps proper links (ie ones that require no effort whatsoever to get to) to the material might soothe these troubled waters a bit?
 
 
Mike Phillips
18:25 / 15.01.07
Perhaps this will be easier than those bulky/ugly links above:

Click here to check out some EARLY versions of some chapters from the book and click here to check out some deleted scenes from the Grant Morrison interview.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
18:32 / 15.01.07
Well, I read the column on Zenith Phase I and found it surprisingly good. It did seem to only look at Zenith very narrowly, as if it existed outside any broader context ~ whereas, for instance, Zenith's "costume" surely doesn't signify in isolation but operates alongside McCarthy's "Paradax", and Animal Man's leather jacket, and the post "Death of Superman" Superboy, and more obviously, Bros and the "Faith" period George Michael. The pastiche of different generations of superheroes (naive and earnest 1940s, tripped-out or rebellious 1960s) was later picked up in Planetary, and there's been some interesting cultural studies stuff around Planetary.

But credit where credit's due: I thought it was thoughtful and intelligent stuff, on first reading.
 
 
Ganesh
18:43 / 15.01.07
Animal Man's leather jacket

I remember reading an interview with Garth in which he explained that Animal Man's jacket was meant to be a run-of-the-mill, intentionally naff cotton/canvas blouson thing. Unless you mean the one he wears when his family die and he returns to his 'punk' roots.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
18:46 / 15.01.07
Yes, I mean when he adopts a black leather jacket and turns bad-ass... if I'm remembering it right.
 
 
Spaniel
18:53 / 15.01.07
From the interview out takes (and not really abut comics)

People have just been coming to me with all kinds of things: Sherlock Holmes and all kinds of projects.

Just the other day I was boring the missus with my "it's come Sherlock Holmes time again" blather.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
18:59 / 15.01.07
Wasn't there a sense, in the series, that now Animal Man's family were gone he at least had the consolation of being able to wear a better costume?

Even if it did start to seem a bit rancid, after a while?
 
 
The Falcon
18:59 / 15.01.07
'S alright this

"Grant and I have been through a lot in the intervening years. I've gone to college, graduate school, gotten married, helped produce two kids. Grant's been abducted by aliens. But through it all, we've had each other. Well, I've had his comics, and he had no knowledge of my existence, but clearly a bond was formed."

I think we can all identify to an extent, and I have actually cropped up on sequart.com a couple times during my, ah, research yet never noticed these bits. Cheers, 'sequart.com'/Mike, I think I prolly will get your book(s) seeing that McGill bio looks like never showing up, and really, it definitely can't be any worse than 'Anarchy for the Masses'. And I've got that.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
18:59 / 15.01.07
Re. Zenith Phase III, Mike; again, I found your online essay a very interesting and often perceptive bit of literary criticism. It's not exactly what I would pick up from this Phase ~ I hadn't noticed the imagery of the vicar impaled on the weathercock, for instance, and you pick up other patterns of recurrent words and visuals along the same lines ~ but to me (again) the cultural connotations are really important. That Hotspur (I always thought) is based on Olivier as Henry V, and so brings with him all the associations of optimistic patriotism in an entirely different war, is key to my understanding that Hotspur's so hopelessly out of his depth as he doesn't even understand the type of cosmic conflict he's involved in. He's a desperately valiant hero, but he's out of Shakespeare via the 1940s. He thinks he's fighting Nazis or infidels, or the French! The awful sense of sadness and doom throughout also stems, for me, from the knowledge that we've got kids like Billy the Cat and Katie, who are used to burglars in a British village, fighting Dark Gods, and Billy Whizz trying to outrun a Lovecraftian horror instead of his dad's slipper. One of the parallels is clearly rooted in the 1940s, and I think that's important in the clash between their eager hope and their utter lack of any chance of survival. Seeing these dated, naive kids' comic characters dropped into a superhero epic on the cusp of the 1990s is a crucial part of the Phase's power, for me. Those cultural references immediately help us understand why Smiley Sun and Domino have more of a fighting chance than Electrogirl ~ the former are hip-hop and goth, the latter's out of Vera Lynn's era. On a simple level, I would have thought it was worth noting that Vertex isn't just a "nicer version" of Zenith, but a yuppie. (Or a Sloane? Hard to remember what we used to call guys like that. Anyway, he drinks Perrier I think). And isn't it significant that Maximan's started talking like Finnegans Wake? (or so it seemed to me).

Anyway, you asked for discussion I think; or maybe you were just asking people to buy your book, but here's some discussion anyway. How have the later chapters changed from these early versions?
 
 
miss wonderstarr
19:02 / 15.01.07
Oh, sorry, those columns/chapters are by Timothy Callaghan, not Mike/Sequart.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
19:06 / 15.01.07
Just the other day I was boring the missus with my "it's come Sherlock Holmes time again" blather.

There is something quite beautiful about the moment when the nightly injection courses through the veins, isn't there?

Personally, at that point, there are no crimes I couldn't solve.
 
 
Mike Phillips
19:11 / 15.01.07
Cheers, 'sequart.com'/Mike, I think I prolly will get your book(s) seeing that McGill bio looks like never showing up, and really, it definitely can't be any worse than 'Anarchy for the Masses'. And I've got that.

Actually, we spoke to McGill, and he says that his book is going to come out this year...at some point. In fact, I think we can post on here the interview we did with him. Let me look into that.
 
 
Mike Phillips
19:14 / 15.01.07
Anyway, you asked for discussion I think; or maybe you were just asking people to buy your book, but here's some discussion anyway. How have the later chapters changed from these early versions?

I'm trying to get Tim's attention on here. He's the one who'd be able to answer all of your stuff. Check back in a day or so.

ALSO, the later chapters have been enhanced because Grant read our book and made some comments to Tim about it. Also, since the interview with Grant, Tim's been able to expand on those chapters, in part DUE to the interview, and in part due to the editorial process.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
19:16 / 15.01.07
Well, to be fair to both of you, if I wanted all those things discussed I could have written my own essays on Zenith I suppose; and in turn, you could have legitimately criticised me for leaving things out.
 
 
Ganesh
19:21 / 15.01.07
Wasn't there a sense, in the series, that now Animal Man's family were gone he at least had the consolation of being able to wear a better costume?

I thought so. I was also quite impressed that, in the DC Universe, 'punks' wore skintight leather catsuits with big 'A's on them for no apparent reason.
 
  

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