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Eureka Seven

 
  

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Mysterious Transfer Student
18:57 / 21.12.06
Emboldened by the sudden clustering of anime-related threads at the top of the forum, I want to talk about my current favourite series. The premise and subject matter of this great show are traditional enough, but it's the atmosphere and execution that make Eureka Seven worth sticking with for its 50-episode run.

On a nameless planet whose lands are covered by giant corals, 14-year-old Renton Thurston (yup) lives with his mechanic grandfather and dreams of joining Gekkostate, a guerilla ensemble of skysurfers, rebels and freethinkers who roam the skies in their airship and publish details of their anti-government exploits in the samizdat magazine ray=out. Of course, within the first episode Renton gets his chance to live out his dream when ethereal Gekkostate beauty Eureka crashes her stylish transforming mecha, the Nirvash TypeZero, into his house in need of urgent assistance. Seems Renton's legendary father Adrock (yup yup), who died saving the world from an ecological catastrophe called the Summer of Love, left something behind that she needs....

That's how it starts. What you get if you stay with it is a barmy, slapdash (if high in production values) but charming fusion of ultra-trad mecha combat/boy meets girl anime with eco-mystical cosmobabble, crash courses in revolutionary ethics, shipboard soap opera with the diverse and charming Gekkostaters (including Eureka's snot-nosed adopted children, Maurice, Maeter and Linck), and wild lurching from knockabout comedy to high seriousness which just manages to stay credible throughout. In short, everything you want from a long-form anime TV series.

And the furniture and trappings of this show are riddled with in-jokes designed to bring a smile to anyone with a treasured copy of Screamadelica in the CD collection. The good-guy mechas are called LFOs (including the 606, 808 and 909 models), the bad guys KLFs. Among the cast we have Renton's absent sister Diane, engineers Jobs and Woz, skysurfing lovers Gidget and Moondoggie, and scientist Greg "Dr. Bear" Egan. Episode titles? Blue Monday, Ill Communication, Human Behaviour, Higher than the Sun, Morning Glory, Pacific State, Cosmic Trigger....

Series originator Dai Sato has paid his dues on the shows listed in the summary and clearly decided to "do a George Morrison" - i.e. bunch together his personal obsessions and splatter them across an artwork in the name of widescreen entertainment, with some bewildered mega-corporation picking up the tab. He also wrote the screenplay for Casshern, though Eureka Seven is a far lighter affair than that movie - the carefree, surfer vibe permeates even its bleaker moments. So if you feel like getting to grips with a show that plays like a blend of FLCL, Blake's Seven, Final Fantasy VII and The Invisibles, do check it out.
 
 
Seth
19:20 / 21.12.06
Oh my God.

Oh my God oh my God oh my God.

Oh my God.

/pants breathlessly/

Oh my God.
 
 
Seth
20:08 / 21.12.06
Right, just purchased this from my anime dealer in the States. He's like a drug dealer, he's started sending me recommendations. I don't know what to do.
 
 
Nocturne
23:15 / 21.12.06
I liked it! It reminded me of FMA alot. They're both action packed and involve heart-wrenching stories. I think this one might have been aimed at a younger audience though. While I enjoyed it, it seemed to have a Disney-ish quality that really irritated me. Disney has this horrible "Cue heroic music" thing and then the horns start playing. This had that too, especially in the first half.

Absoloutely beautiful animation. Some of the best anime wallpapers I've seen are done from this.

SPOILER












Did anyone else hate the ending? The grafitti on the moon made me want to puke. I mean, I can see why they did it, but... yuck!












END SPOILER
 
 
Mysterious Transfer Student
09:23 / 23.12.06
Right, just purchased this from my anime dealer in the States. He's like a drug dealer, he's started sending me recommendations. I don't know what to do.

Oops, maybe I talked this series up too much. For anyone, not only Seth, who comes fresh to it, I should say that if you don't find yourself attracted to the characters and production design, you may well consider dropping it because the plot takes an absurdly long time to gain any momentum. Virtually nothing happens for the entire first story arc; it's only when the first Coralian appears and the Gekko-Go has to stop for repairs that things begin to get interesting. After that, I lay odds you'll be with it all the way.

I'm watching the last story arc (episodes 40-50) in one or two sittings this weekend. Holland is the man!
 
 
Seth
17:55 / 23.12.06
Dude, you had me at KLF.

Don't worry, I did some reading up on it elsewhere before purchase. Confident 'll love it.
 
 
Seth
07:29 / 18.01.07


Pin and I just watched the entirety of Eureka Seven. In one sitting.

Details to follow. Image above is the front cover of Ray=Out that changed the world.
 
 
Seth
07:43 / 18.01.07
We started it at eleven o'clock yesterday morning and finished a quarter of an hour ago. That's half nine judging by Seth's flat time.
 
 
Seth
14:19 / 18.01.07
There are major spoilers in the following post. Please tread lightly if you don't want to totally ruin your Eureka Seven enjoyment.
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Oh my fucking God did I love this series. Throughout the twenty-one hour marathon I lost track of the number of times I cried. It's tragic and brutal and sweet and totally tugs at your heart and makes you want to be a better person. In places it's so intense that it's very hard to watch.

Of course it's also everything else. Thoughtful and philosophical. Action packed. Absurd, farcical and infantile. The very highest standards of characterisation. Beautifully designed and cleverly plotted. Unreserved and unashamed in execution. Packed with references to a ton of TV shows, films and music you've loved for years. Please tick all your standard boxes for great anime.

Fat Lee vs Magnet Kitchen Guy has already covered the premise and the cool pop culture references, so I'll offload a bucketload on exactly what this show has done to me over the last day. The following can't hope to do it justice (there's just too much in this vast, vast show to write up adequately in a short review), but it's an attempt at a start at least.

First of all FLvsMKG's reference to The Invisibles is bang on the money, not only in the ways ze has mentioned but also in that a primary story thread concerns Renton's crushing personal guilt and disillusionment with GekkoState when he belatedly realises the implications of what they are involved in. To begin with he's hopelessly enamoured by the celebrity sheen of the ref boarders he's admired all his life through their self-published Ray=Out counter culture magazine. He never questions the fights he's in. Every enemy he faces is wearing mech armour and is thus totally depersonalised, and it's only in the episode in which he totally *does a Shinji* that he properly allows himself realise the truth.

In his berserker rage Renton tears an enemy KLF limb from limb before pulverising its head and finally tearing apart its torso, only to slam sickeningly to a halt as he sees a crudely severed human forearm amidst the debris. The 'camera' closes in on its lifeless hand to clearly show the wedding ring. With the marked lack of on-screen bloodshed up to this point the sudden graphic violence drives the point home with shocking economy, Last Man Falls in a single image.

If that weren't enough it's also a particularly effective piece of foreshadowing in a series in which relationships and marriages are central.

This is one of a number of key turning points in the series. The effects of Renton's belated realisation that he has already killed many more people than he can count changes everything, not only for him but also the entire world. It's a wonderfully executed about face from most anime, driven home all the more when you realise that although Renton has only killed in battles his beloved and her minder have a far darker past as genuine mass-murderers.

One of the major themes of the series is redemption and atonement. It's played out in Renton as he runs away and gets a quick and rough education in how to love and be loved and what it means to live your life for someone else. That he takes everything he's learned and figures out ways to change the world without killing place him firmly into the Dane McGowan camp (only without the lame GM sloganeering). And it's played out in spades in Eureka, the young woman with whom Renton is deeply in love. From cold blooded killer of women and children she becomes a loving single parent (a total rarity for this type of series, can't think of another example in fact), close friend and devoted girlfriend to her equally devoted young man.

In fact these themes are played out in some form in virtually every character. More on this below.

I also completely agree with the Blakes 7 observation, and would add Firefly/Serenity to the mix. Possibly the latter more so in the motley crew of outlaws form a dysfunctional family department (family is not a word I'd easily apply to Avon, Blake and Villa). I thought about Cowboy Bebop as potentially another example of this, but Eureka Seven runs rings around that series in every department. CB has never managed to be a shining example of anything much.

I also had strong shades of His Dark Materials throughout. Renton and Eureka's relationship is clearly intended to be sexual in nature, what with all the references to the two of them becoming one and what their offspring might be like and how their child will change the world. That they don't even kiss until the closing minutes of the closing episode is irrelevant, because the *one year later* device employed in the affectionate Gunbuster homage ending seems to make the clear implication that Eureka is pregnant upon her return Bellforest. Of course it can't be shown because of the ambiguities concerning the character's age (we know that Renton is fourteen at the start of the series, but not how much time has passed).

I'd also site HDM as a nice reference point for the strength of Renton and Eureka's relationship. More on that later.

Also with regards references to other anime series referenced in the ending, consider how Eureka Seven operates as an inverse Evangelion, with loved ones found rather than lost on the beach and love letters scrawled across the moon instead of arterial spray. E7 owes a great debt to Anno's show but its writers are on the polar opposite trajectory.

Briefly have to give massive props to whoever put together the soundtrack to this. The recurring themes in the episodes moved between wonderfully over the top and nicely understated at just the right moments. If you were ever in any doubt about this being an epic story then those thoughts would soon be squashed as the strings go stratospheric. The opening/closing themes generally left me cold apart from the first closing theme (beautiful, I'm a sucker for sappy closing themes in anime) and the oh-my-fucking-god-this-is-the-best-series-ever fourth opening theme. Seriously. After around forty hard, hard, hard earned episodes if the fourth theme music doesn't make you spontaneously weep like your heart's just been torn out, go totally meta by bringing back a frightening flood of references to that other show, cause you to punch your fist in the air and scream "YES!" while simultaneously laughing like a tit at the sheer unselfconscious audacity of it all then you're no friend of mine and chances are never will be. This is what the best anime does better than almost any other televisual medium: it overloads you with conflicting emotions and dares you to easily untangle them with any kind of simple critique. Most film and TV manipulates you into feeling one particular thing at one particular time. Decent anime studios know those tricks too but for them its only part of their repertoire, and if they want to burn the unknowable into your memory so that you need to return to it in multiple rewatches then they damn well will and there's not a lot you can do about it.

On first viewing, after having missed an entire night's sleep through being enthralled by this wonderful program, I have two main points with which I'd like to close.

I harp on about the importance of characterisation a lot, but Eureka Seven really is an absolute fucking masterclass. In a series in which there are dozens of characters practically everyone has their own arc and develops significantly from where they started, in some cases to being practically a different person.

Holland is the Malcolm Reynolds/King Mob character, if Mal was a completely despicable cock of a man. From psychologically scarred military boy mass murderer he becomes a slacker cod-revolutionary leader, total stranger to self awareness, vile bully, stubborn ego freak, controlling tantrum thrower and heavily burdened world saviour before finally coming to the end of himself and becoming the kind of brave, bold and compassionate and leader you'd willingly follow into hell.

Talho is the ship's pilot, fellow war veteran and is she/isn't she love interest for Holland. She starts the series as a juvenile, obnoxious and self-centred tormentor of poor Renton, taking little seriously and prone to cruel outbursts and attempts to tear down any changes she sees about herself, burning with jealousy for Holland's complex and intense relationship with Eureka. From the halfway point she turns herself around completely to become Holland's sole support and emotional anchor, a role she also applies to her position as first officer on the crew. Dependable, loving and wise, much of the series' hope for a better future rests in her.

Anemone and Dominic are simply wonderful, two of the supposed *villains* of the piece. The former is insane, uncontrollable without regular drug injections, spiteful, vengeful and bitter the core. Dominic is a good but gutless young man in a horrendous position, always at odds with his situation and slowly coming apart at the seams. Ending the show in each other's arms when they can finally admit that they're desperately in love with each other, they are responsible for most of the tear jerking moments of the third-to-last episode as they face each other, stripped raw in each other's sight and hopelessly smitten.

Renton is marvellous. A true hero. Starting as a clueless and gullible punk kid without a clue as to how the world really works he soon grows too big for his britches and is horrifically humbled before he goes it alone and learns what it truly takes to be a man. When he returns and takes the initiative in later episodes he has a run of you-fucking-go-Renton-my-son moments, most particularly his refusal to use violent means and his without hesitation blood donation to a man he hates.

But the real character study, as the name of the series would suggest, is Eureka. Piecing each revelation about her into chronological order, she begins as the worst kind of anime female stereotype, a blank and empty near automaton, Rei Ayanami retooled as an unthinking killer and directed and controlled solely by the men in her life. From these problematic beginnings the progression in her character is slow, painful and bumpy, as though her heart is slowly being thawed from a block of ice. Unexpectedly adopting three children whose parents she has slain, falling in love with Renton and gradually opening up about herself and what she wants, coming to terms with who she is, dealing with her scars and a near bottomless pit of guilt and inadequacy: all of it is portrayed with such delicate nuances of animation, body language, almost imperceptible shifts in facial expression and one of those immediate genre-best voice actor performances.

The second point, that seems to be the point of the entire show, is this: true love conquers all. And no, this isn't some wishy-washy Hollywood love, a magic trick or a wish fulfilment that makes all the bad things go away. This is that other kind of love, and it belongs entirely to Renton and Eureka and how they treat each other when they are finally reunited.

It's their love for each other that changes everything, and it's through purely practical means. They demonstrate it for each other at every turn. At times it's a deeply protective love so that one is strong when the other is weak. At other times it's a crucible in which their imperfections are bought the surface and skimmed away. It goes from passionate to thoughtful, intimate to inclusive of everyone, painfully raw to tender and gentle. They always do their best to talk through their issues and see things from each other's point of view. They're often painfully honest with each other. They apologise quickly and never let the sun go down on their anger. They're very physical, opening to each other quickly with their bodies. They accept each other for who they are and grow together, always believing in each other, each attempting to push the other to greater heights.

The love they show for each other nearly tears the crew apart in its purity and strength. Jealousies mount, misunderstandings abound, people are suspicious of them and this pulsing, living force they have between each other that directs all their actions. But it soon becomes infectious. As the intensity of their love burns and hurts the other characters, so too are their imperfections drawn out by it. Simple activities like taking on cleaning and cooking tasks become a way of uniting the damaged and fractured personalities on the GekkoGo, as these wounded people realise they have to find ways of dealing with their baggage and opening up to each other. It is ultimately their union that saves the day and them together on the cover of Ray=Out that changes the minds of millions.

It's an absolute inspiration to watch, one of the finest depictions of a healthy, loving relationship between two deeply hurting people I've ever witnessed in popular entertainment, and if in the final episodes love saving the day seems like some kind of convenient magic assisted by technobabble then you can at least rest assured that it is a deeply satisfying work of magic, hard earned by painful hard work and sacrifice, justified by all that has come before, and that these two young lovers truly deserve to be together and be happy.

To summarise it's like a cross between Firefly/Serenity, The Invisibles, Romeo and Juliet, His Dark Materials, Evangelion/Gunbuster (1 & 2), Nausicaa of the Valley of Wind and Point Break How could you go wrong with that formula?
 
 
Seth
00:54 / 20.01.07
Today I've found myself feeling totally bereft, and realised how much I really miss the characters from this show. Like they were real people. That's about the highest compliment I can pay to a work of fiction.

Are the rumours about a movie true?
 
 
Seth
22:08 / 22.01.07
So regarding the Coralians...

We have the big spheres and the weird Outer Church beings are the antibodies. The trapar is also a property of the Scab Coral.

So what are/were the KLF/LFO/Nirvash? What is it about the Nirvash and TheEND that mirror each other (The End doesn't have the dual cockpit). We know they're excavated skeletons from within the Scab, but is there anything else on their origins and what they mean within the show's mythology?

Are there any Coralian speculations or confirmed ideas?
 
 
Essential Dazzler
20:38 / 02.02.07
Amazing Grace!

Just finished .

Can't think.

Am in AWE.

Amazing Grace.

A MAN IS IN FLOODS
 
 
Seth
17:16 / 09.02.07
Yeah dude. I'm downloading the soundtrack right now. It certainly gives Joe Hisaishi a run for his money. They should have a fight to see who is best at immense epic soppy anime scoring.

Certainly there should be more scores like this. Hollywood has totally lost its balls in this respect. On the one hand you've got the most audacious blockbuster film making yet seen with all the superhero movies out there, but the films just don't have the themes they deserve.

Eureka Seven's orchestral score on the other hand... wow. It's perfect. You can listen to the OST without the anime and it brings everything back.
 
 
Essential Dazzler
17:45 / 09.02.07
Wow, I'd planned on coming back and posting someting with more content by now, but I still can't talk about E7 with any kind of coherence.

I'm definitely thinking about a re-watch with a notebook to piece together a more complete view of the show's mythology. Thinking about the relationship between Nirvash and TheEND, I noticed how little of it I actually grasped. But I don't feel like I've missed much, those aspects were never rammed down your throat, it was just the set for the characters to dance on.
 
 
thewalker
16:43 / 27.02.07
seth,


i have watched the first two discs,
absolutely awe some.

i can not wait for the rest to be released,

how did you get the whole series?
 
 
Seth
17:30 / 27.02.07
I got them from my anime dealer, but check on Ebay. There are a few sellers who do the lot at a decent price. It gets so much better as it goes on.
 
 
iamus
21:42 / 27.02.07
I've been watching this too. I've just gotten to the episode after the (presumably) first Anenome/Eureka Nirvash smackdown. I just ordered the whole series from ebay last night.

It's very, very good. Funny, touching, excellently observed characters and big colourful things exploding and smacking fuck out of each other. I wanna live on the Gekko.

It's been a long time, but you guys are getting me back into Anime in a big, big way.
 
 
thewalker
05:10 / 28.02.07
thanks seth,on to it,

and thanks for ranting so enthusiastically and eloquently along with fat lee, i am LOVING this series, cant wait to see how it develops re:the golden bough, i cant believe i had never heard of that book. sounds like the kind if thing alan moore would have next to his bed.

its interesting that the subbed vocals are often radically different to the subtitles, particularly in a scene where moondog talks in only slang, and renton asks for a translation.....
 
 
uncle retrospective
05:34 / 28.02.07
I finished this yesterday and all I can say is wow!!
What a show, as always Seth says what I was thinking before I go near a keyboard. I'll post more when my brain unfries and I rewatch the last 10 eps, but what I will say is I loved the way the evil masterplan had accounted for theEND trying to do the right thing.
 
 
uncle retrospective
05:38 / 28.02.07
Oh, I'm your fitness instructor, thanks so much.
 
 
Seth
13:26 / 28.02.07
All kudos in this thread should be redirected to Dai Sato, Bones and Fat Lee for drawing their work to our attention. I'm about a third of the way through Ergo Proxy at the moment, which is last year's Sato scripted story, and there might be some more to come on that over the next couple of weeks.

Would anyone who has seen the whole of Eureka Seven be up for indulging in some mythology piecing together?
 
 
Essential Dazzler
15:18 / 01.03.07
I've just started re-watching the series, and I was wondering, do we see any living creatures aside from the Sky-fish and Anemone's pet?

Also, Trapar - a reflection or impression of the actual oceans that are trapped beneath the coral?

I loved how Eureka tells Renton flat out in ep9 that she's still at war, that it isn't a sport or game, and that people die, but it takes a massive freakout 11 episodes later before it sinks in and triggers a full-on breakdown.
 
 
iamus
10:32 / 03.03.07
NnnnnnnnnnGgggghH!


Got my DVDs today only to find out the translation is utter, utter shite.


Can anyone recommend these copies right here?

Any better suggestions?
 
 
iamus
10:37 / 03.03.07
Help me, Barbelith.

I need this.
 
 
Seth
12:48 / 03.03.07
I'm your fitness instructor: I've just started re-watching the series, and I was wondering, do we see any living creatures aside from the Sky-fish and Anemone's pet?

I don't recall seeing any throughout the series, no. I'm only a quarter of the way through my rewatch though. I'm fairly sure I remember Renton, Ray and Charles tucking into a juicy steak, but I can't remember. Also worth thinking about is the background sound effects, if there's one thing the makers of anime love it's cicadas.

I'm your fitness instructor: Also, Trapar - a reflection or impression of the actual oceans that are trapped beneath the coral?

My understanding of it was that it's a product of the dreaming of the Coral, a desire-made-energy phenomenon, and that this is why it's influenced by good vibes and happy thoughts. The days spent in the LFO cave without it are probably the series' most emotionally desolate moments.

I'm your fitness instructor: I loved how Eureka tells Renton flat out in ep9 that she's still at war, that it isn't a sport or game, and that people die, but it takes a massive freakout 11 episodes later before it sinks in and triggers a full-on breakdown.

Yeah, poor old Renton. His learning curve is one of my favourite things about the series. I could feel the series building up to the severed arm and wedding ring moment for quite a long time. After his renunciation of violence it was also appropriate to see him use it again in the final episode, when he finally knows what's at stake and that there really is no other option. When he gunbusters all those Coralians at the climax he apologises, and while there's a case to be made for the death of an anti-body Coralian being the equivalent to the death of a white blood cell he still appreciates the cost. I thought that it was in this moment that he finally understood why Ray and Charles had to die, after he asked himself, Eureka and Holland that question so many times earlier. They couldn't answer him because from them their answers would only seem self-serving. He had to find out for himself that there are some forces that can be stopped with nothing other than violence, and that you have to be absolutely sure that you know and understand why that is and how to apply your countermeasures.

Ray and Charles died because they were so full of hatred that they could not be reasoned with, despite their beloved Renton being in the firing line. I loved those characters, and they probably had the most brutal and senseless deaths of any in the series. They just couldn't change who they were.

Here's an illuminating passage along similar lines from Newtype:

When Renton learns that Eureka is a Coralian he doesn't seem to mind at all. Is that a sign that he's matured? "Not at all, " replies Eureka Seven director Tomoki Kyoda. "In fact it's the complete opposite. He's just not supposed to understand how important that fact is, which is why we have him take it so lightly."

The first time I saw it I took that moment completely the wrong way. I suppose there's a composite way of seeing it, in which Renton deserves all credit for not freaking out and running a mile from her, for accepting her and loving her even though she's an alien. And he can't be blamed for not understanding how her Coralian nature will effect everything that's to come and how important his relationship with her is, because no-one has told him anything to do with that yet. Yes, he has no real idea of the difficulty of being in a loving relationship, especially with someone so culturally different from him. But let's be fair to him, when he commits himself to being Eureka's boyfriend he makes a rather excellent job of it for the most part, learning as he goes and putting work into sorting out all the little wobbles and the major weirdness.

I think they're my favourite fictional couple.

Iamus: Got my DVDs today only to find out the translation is utter, utter shite.

Can anyone recommend these copies right here?

Any better suggestions?


I think I've ordered from Movie Mars before, and I think the quality was excellent. Those pictures certainly seem to be the appropriate ones from the DVD covers. But with Ebay you never can tell.

I got mine from an anime dealer in the States. The video quality isn't great in places but the fansub is good. It does mistranslate certain words, but when the official translation becomes apparent to them they put up an apology translation note, and these little errors often seem to act in the series' favour, almost as though they were plot reveals. PM me if you're interested in dealer details.
 
 
ORA ORA ORA ORAAAA!!
21:30 / 03.03.07
I'm not reading everything due to spoiler fear, so maybe this has been said before, but there is at least one non-skyfish, non-weird-pet-blob animal. In episode ten, when the skyfish are around, a bird lands on renton's head.
 
 
Seth
01:50 / 04.03.07
I loved the way the evil masterplan had accounted for theEND trying to do the right thing.

I think one of the main reasons I want to study this show in so much depth is to try and get to the bottom of Dewey Novak. He's such a deeply ambiguous villain with most of his character operating at such an understated level that it's going to take a while to figure out exactly who that fucker really is. Were his motives simply a reaction against Holland and his pontificating just evidence of his monstrous ego, or did he actually believe his own BS?
 
 
Essential Dazzler
18:24 / 04.03.07
Spotted two birds and a buterfly so far. It hadn't crossed my mind that the characters eat meat, specifically beef and pork, I believe.

(I should really ask this in the Primer, as it applies to most things I'm watching)

Was Eureka Seven broadcast consecutively as a whole or was it divided into seasons?

As it is we have it divided into 4 chunks by the endings and openings, the first three all 13 episodes long.
 
 
Mysterious Transfer Student
19:39 / 04.03.07
(I should really ask this in the Primer, as it applies to most things I'm watching)

Was Eureka Seven broadcast consecutively as a whole or was it divided into seasons?


In the case of Eureka Seven the series originally aired weekly, without breaks, on Japanese TV between April 2005 and April 2006, the final two episodes being broadcast together. (This information courtesy of Anime News Network.)

In more general terms the 'seasons' that punctuate longer-running anime TV series such as E7, Fullmetal Alchemist, Bleach and so forth seem to be functions roughly equally of the need to refresh and update the title sequence in accordance with changes to the cast and story tone, and corresponding tie-ins with the pop acts who provide the music. Case in point: the English-dubbed TV run of FMA, due to a rights agreement with the first opening theme's performers, J-rock band L'Arc en Ciel, continued to feature the same opening sequence until a good thirty episodes past the point at which it had been replaced in the original run with another title sequence and song. I personally have a lot of time for the approach that periodically refreshes a show in this way and kinda wish that it could retroactively apply to comparable English-language shows like Buffy... which is kind of stupid on balance.
 
 
Essential Dazzler
16:40 / 10.03.07
Seth, is that article from Newtype available online, is it worth seeking out?

Yeah, Trapar is the thoughts of the scab coral, I'm wondering if it's perhaps a subconcious effort on the part of the Coral that it so closely resembles oceans.

More idle wonderings, Are the people seen wandering the library inside the scab coral people who've been taken by despair?

(3 episodes to go)
 
 
Seth
14:11 / 13.03.07
Liking the new name, Pacific State. I take it you've heard the song?

I haven't checked for the Newtype article online, but their site doesn't seem to feature articles, only reviews. I'm loving their Nono-centric new front cover, by the way.

Yeah, Trapar is the thoughts of the scab coral, I'm wondering if it's perhaps a subconcious effort on the part of the Coral that it so closely resembles oceans.

Possibly. The ocean is the primary missing feature of surface of the E7 Earth. I don't think the series ever states this explicitly but it's certainly there in the subtext.

More idle wonderings, Are the people seen wandering the library inside the scab coral people who've been taken by despair?

I have no idea on this front. The library feels as though it's of a different sort of reality to the outside world so it could be. On the other hand Renton is mortified when the Command Cluster is destroyed, as he at least is under the belief that his sister is actually inside and capable of being killed in the explosion. As to Adrock's rather mysterious presence (specifically the device whereby he never speaks), again I don't have answers.

I'm very slowly progressing through a rewatch, and so if there are any further thoughts I'll let you know. How were the final three episodes for you?
 
 
Essential Dazzler
14:27 / 13.03.07
I haven't heard the song actually, but it was my favourite episode. "Blue monday", "Morning Glory" and "Don't You want me" are the only episode title songs I can recall. I'm musically impoverished obviously.

How were the final three episodes for you?

Left me breathless, again. I cannot remember crying so much at any other program.

After the command Cluster is destroyed, we're treated to the heartbreaking scene of various people awaking from despair, only to be all blowed up. I was under the impression that Adrock was in the command cluster beacuse of how he died, in the Nirvash, with Eureka, at the centre of the Seven Swell. I seem to recall people saying that no body was found? Maybe it isn't just despair sufferers, also people who's conciousness is absorbed at the point of death? That would eplain renton's anguish, They might not have a body to go back too.

(Of Note: Typing hurts a little because I sliced open my finger putting together one of the E7 model kits this morning, I'm so chuffed, it's rilly great).
 
 
Essential Dazzler
14:34 / 13.03.07
One thing I noticed about the rewatch was that while it helped with my understanding of the things I already had a grasp on, the bits that left me totally floundering weren't cleared up at all.

On the TypeZERO/theEND relationship thing, I'm as fuzzy as I ever was.

I might type up some thoughts later. I have a list of episodes I want to rewatch again before I put finger to key on that subject.
 
 
thewalker
05:12 / 01.04.07
wow,

i am finished, finally.

it stole my life for a little while there...




um, good. good. good.


,,,,,,,(there were monkies in the first scene after the nirvash starts walking across the island on earth.....)


took me a while to work out who darren emmerson was though


wow, what a trip, i loved the bits with the throat singer music 9all through the series, and the music with the staggered drums, awe some.


and a lot more of course.
 
 
thewalker
08:40 / 01.04.07
and sometimes you could just feel Moebius there in the details.
 
  

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