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Nelson Evergreen
08:45 / 03.04.07
Very Nice, Suedey. Drenched in well being, is your work. You aiming for greeting card territory here and there...?

Here's a quick one.

A friend asked if I'd contribute this four-year old illustration for the cover of a self published book:



I said "sure, but why don't I do a new, bespoke version to tie in with the tome's themes?" (magick etc). There's a lot to be said for taking an old piece of work that you can just about bear to look at and breathing new life into it. It was insanely enjoyable. Because the composition was already there most of the hard work was already done; I just revised the figure, dressed up the background and threw a party in Photoshop:

 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
10:31 / 03.04.07
Oooh, I want to come to your photoshop party! I really like the change of styles there. That first one is four years old already?! Yikes. I'm really liking all the new little effects and flowery little patterns, I especially like the opaque arms! Has a good feel to it.

I know what you mean with the breathing new life in to old work thing as well, I've sometimes done that and had a ball. Although sometimes I go back to things and just can't for the life of me get the hang of it - things I think I can redraw all the better now that just stubbornly refuse to work. I try and avoid it as best I can because of this, but there's always a few things where it just seems right to revisit. I think I have a few things I revisit year after year, almost to chart progress a little.

In stark contrast to your photoshop party, I absolutely hated doing that last picture, for large periods of time!

Partly I wanted a break from what I'd been drawing for weeks - people arguing at night, in an alleyway - to open it out to something a bit lighter. And I like Renoir. And it's Spring. And it never hurts to have something greeting card friendly. Give me that greeting card money! Easter cards! Also it's like a test image (in setting) for something I might do later. And I wanted to draw a good background, and for some reason I wanted to draw everything with no references to prove something to myself. Oh, there's much more hate in this picture than anyone will ever know... ha!

Actually a bit annoyed with myself at the moment, all this delicate brushy nonsense is really restrained and makes me feel a bit tense. I have to draw something absolutely different now...



I just drew some sketches to loosen up, a few minutes of drawing that felt entirely better than that whole last picture altogether! I really must let loose on something.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
16:27 / 22.04.07
Couple of recent brushy sketches -





This one harking back to Nelson's sport sketches on the first page! Not sure I've got people looking quite so insane with goal scoring joy, and the likenesses are non-existent, but it gave me a good excuse to go all out with a really big brush which works well in the context of the image.

And I don't think I need say anymore about girls and windowsills. Except I'll be glad to see the back of them. Tremendously fun drawing in this way, though!
 
 
FinderWolf
16:57 / 22.04.07
Absolutely beautiful stuff, Nelson and Suedey! Thanks for sharing these.
 
 
Nelson Evergreen
14:05 / 23.04.07
But... but... that's your best "Girl & Windowsill" yet, Suedey. You can't stop now. You can't.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
12:10 / 24.04.07
Oh, thanks Nelson! I was actually using said pictures as a test to hopefully work up a much larger, better picture/painting - then I got distracted by this way of drawing I enjoyed so - bare minimal pencil skeleton, big brush, just go as quickly as possible then hope for the best.

Although obviously, as soon as I thought I could go one better it lost all of that lovely spontaniety and I had to leave it alone or be brought down by diminishing returns. I'll keep it for another day.

But another girl and windowsill may be forthcoming. One more. Maybe. I plan on bringing various elements from all I've done together in one big picture, but we'll see! I'll probably just struggle trying to recapture the bits of good drawing I want to keep from them all, destroy my canvas in a fit of rage and run off in to the night covered in paint.
 
 
misterdomino.org
02:11 / 02.05.07
I like your brush work Suedey; the immediacy of the ink seems to cater to your organic style. Maybe you should see how inspiring you find traditional Asian calligraphy/painting to be, or maybe you are already thinking about this with the girl by the window motif, or maybe I'm just making assumptions.
Here's a quick sequence:


Characters from some personal mythologies. Wish I could get some of that digital color sense that I see you guys using. Anyone interested in a collaborative internet comic venture?
 
 
Nelson Evergreen
08:10 / 04.05.07
Here's a fresh one; it should be appearing in "He Bought me a soda and he tried to molest me in a parking lot...", a small press anthology of illustrations inspired by song lyrics. I went with the opening couplet of The Fiery Furnaces' "Tropical Iceland", a quote which seems to pop somewhat inexplicably into my forebrain most days.

 
 
misterdomino.org
15:06 / 04.05.07
That is byoootiful Nelson. You make it look so easy.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
09:09 / 19.07.07
How about a quick update then!

A couple of illustrations for Plan B magazine -

Girly Power Pop

French New Wave

A promo postcard for my ever forthcoming - actually finished a long time ago, but will I ever get round to printing it - comic -

Buffalo Roots postcard

A couple of sketches -

Millie-esque

Quick sketch
 
 
All Acting Regiment
09:44 / 19.07.07
Wait ... in Plan B, that was you? I noticed, but thought it was someone doing a very good rip-off of you!
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
10:02 / 19.07.07
Just me I'm afraid, I'm always ripping myself off!
 
 
iamus
10:47 / 19.07.07
Someday you're going to piss yourself off with that, sunshine.

And then where will you be?

HUH?
 
 
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12:46 / 21.07.07
Wow, I love that last picture Suedey, awesome stuff!
 
 
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12:48 / 21.07.07
Hah, I just noticed you put 'quick sketch' for that aswell, I can imagine taking hours over something like that, that's really cool.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
15:01 / 23.07.07
Ha, really?

You know, I've been really surprised by the response to that sketch. I didn't really think anything of it at the time, but people keep complimenting me in reference to it!

Indeed, I was in a bit of a foul mood the day I drew it because I couldn't draw anything the way I wanted to and I couldn't really figure out what to do and eventually I got fed up and stopped trying. I just chucked it to the side where it lay for a good few weeks, because I didn't know what to do with it, if anything.

I only uploaded it because I was a bit bored and hadn't done anything new for a while, and I didn't really think anyone would pay attention. Shows what I know, huh?
 
 
FinderWolf
18:03 / 23.07.07
yah, let me add my voice to the chorus of those praising the quick sketch in particular -- though I always enjoy your work. The quick sketch has a great, loose feel to it and the pose is very dynamic. Excellent stuff!
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
14:30 / 02.08.07
A couple of new pieces -


Is Not Magazine contribution

This is a quick little piece for use in Is Not Magazine, which is a magazine in the form of a 1.5m x 2m bill poster. Every issue has two overlapping themes, "The Kid Is/Not My Son" being this issue's, which aim to create a grey area of meaning within each issue and challenge readers to come up with their own opinions and ideas. So this issue - it's about pride, compromise, ownership/disowning of ideas, men with no fathers, masculinity, sluttiness, heredity, inheritence, Michael Jackson, generationalism and more. So here is my take on dating, awkward situations that you want to disown, and paranoia. Ah, such frail masculinity!


Website Placeholder / Promo

This is just a picture to put on my website as a placeholder to both remind me that I need to get an entirely new site with fresh new work and comics to display done, and also to use as a test image for a project I'm going to do later. Also it's the first time I've used a brush in conjunction with a ruler! Exciting times.

I also spent £200 on pens and equipment and various things I've neglected to ever own or use that can probably make things a bit easier/sharper/more fun. It feels like quite an investment, so I'm hoping to make the most of them all! It's just to help try and develop various styles, really. I feel like I've been learning quite a lot lately, trying new things and I'm looking forward to putting it all to good use.

Also, I've begun compiling a little set on flickr of things you can't draw. It's something that continually fascinates me, with the amount of things we encounter almost every day that aren't technically right but which continue to happen regardless of what we think and which if drawn/rendered our brains decide are absolutely and categorically wrong.
 
 
Happy Dave Has Left
13:00 / 10.08.07
Hello you drawing types.

I thought fellow Salon lurkers like me (i.e. who haven't yet either drawn anything or worked up the courage to post something) might appreciate this Ask Metafilter thread which has lots of amazing links.
 
 
iamus
23:44 / 05.09.07



A gig poster (duh!) done for a friend on really short notice. Final version has a few tweaks and fixes (like grass partially covering the snake) but this is the jpeg I sent him.

It's a bit scratchy, but I think I'm happier with it like that than if I'd spent ages on it.
 
 
iamus
23:49 / 05.09.07
Oh aye! Salon stuff.

It only took about three hours from initial sketchbook stuff to final inks. I went with the first idea that came to me, going on the steam of a very detailed and intricate one-page comic I'm doing at the moment (which I'll post here when finally done). Colouring maybe took about the same. Though the intention was to make it a bit more detailed, it's only in flats. I think I prefer it like this to how I wanted to do it in the first place, but it might have benifitted from at least some light/shadow differentiation on the robes at least.

There's things I'd do differently, but I'm failry happy to let it stand as it is. I'm working on loosening up. Letting the scratchy stuff come to the fore and work itself out. There's plenty of time to be anal with the other stuff, so I find disposable stuff like this pretty refreshing.
 
 
Essential Dazzler
23:54 / 05.09.07
I can't see it, and I've been waiting days for this!

I feel that you are being quite cruel, Iamus.
 
 
iamus
23:58 / 05.09.07
Oop.

Try opening the image in a seperate tab or window?
 
 
iamus
23:58 / 05.09.07
I'm using his flickr account to link. Does that not work with flickr accounts?
 
 
iamus
23:59 / 05.09.07
Sorry, I meant...

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
 
 
Nelson Evergreen
06:21 / 06.09.07
I tried it in a window of it's own and got this:

The image “http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1318/1303589667_f193f8d67e_o.jpg” cannot be displayed, because it contains errors.

Errors, you see. Purge those confounded errors...!
 
 
iamus
07:05 / 06.09.07
Hrrrmmm. Works fine for me.


I shall endeavour to fix as soon as.
 
 
Bed Head
13:14 / 06.09.07
Just to announce, I am also on tenterhooks for this. Please show lovely gig poster just as soon as eeeeevil technology allows, thank you, thank you.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
14:38 / 06.09.07
What's this I see, the gang's all here? Why, whatever's happening! Am I reading the date's wrong again?

Get that picture fizzing in to my eyeballs post-haste, iamus!
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
14:42 / 06.09.07


Have a sketch while I'm here an all!
 
 
iamus
15:31 / 06.09.07
FUCKING HELL!

Where have all you guys been?!? And how are you all?
I should post broken links to pictures more often!

I'll sort it after I've been to Kung-Fu tonight, promise. I'm also going to have to get the one-pager done and posted to actually justify the interest though.
 
 
iamus
16:37 / 06.09.07
I'm sensing a bit of evolution in the style there, Suede m'boy. Is that a correct assumption?
 
 
iamus
21:16 / 06.09.07
Aha! Y'know, considering I've done the exact same thing before, you'd think I might have learned. It was in CMYK.

Hopefully.......

 
 
Haus of Mystery
16:46 / 07.09.07
Here's a couple of semi-recent things, one's a piece of 'rotten' cheesecake art done for an ep cover, the other's an illo for a piece on brit psychadelic records, written by the erstwhile Lord Nuneaton Savage...

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Withiel: DALI'S ROTTWEILER
13:39 / 08.09.07
MacReady - that second piece is really something, especially the steampunkesque costume - reminds me a lot of Michael Fiffe.

Here's an attempt to do more traditional fantasy art with a sort of deranged psychedelic realism, with sky pirates. Sadly ended up more humourless than I intended, but I'm quite pleased with some of the detail:

 
  

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