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Dumped by txt - life in the tech age sucks.

 
  

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astrojax69
20:24 / 28.04.06
what a diverse lot barbelith is. thanks for the huggles and gestures of support, and in the circumstances as it happens i read the thread again, the comic relief...

some of you were onto it, the xoxo, etc and 'time out'... she sort of did dump me in the text - after first post i got another saying 'not very supportive of me, but i can't do this' but we spoke last night after a long day and we were very mixed up and unsure of commitment. she thought she was second fiddle to the book and its genesis, but she is certainly not and we are meeting for brunch this morning to resume affairs... god, what a draining phone conversation.

but txt sucks huh? no sense of tone and far too pithy to convey what you really want - unless toneless pithiness is the go!

but i feel much better and thanks everyone for kindness... now go to seth's thread and tell us how good you feel...
 
 
Loomis
20:59 / 28.04.06
Actually, due to broadcasting restrictions, my last break-up was spoken by an actor.

But was it before or after the watershed? Try to remember - it could be very important.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
21:01 / 28.04.06
My last break-up was V/O'd by Keith Allen. I wanted an actor, but there weren't any available. It sucked.
 
 
Dead Megatron
21:20 / 28.04.06
we are meeting for brunch this morning to resume affairs

here's hoping tha t love prevails. And that she at least apologises for the sucky txt...
 
 
astrojax69
06:17 / 29.04.06
yeah, she did. most apologetic - going thru her own stuff of self-worth. hmm, mebbe we'll end up co-dependent. not good. but i think not. had a lovely day. having...

whoa, but what a ride. not one i'm up for again in a hurry, but back on solid ground now.
 
 
Dead Megatron
10:58 / 29.04.06
good things, good things. That makes me happy
 
 
akira
16:53 / 01.05.06
Woman use mobile phones like magic wands. Hmmm today I think I'll encourage new growth...SHAZAM!
 
 
*
17:20 / 01.05.06
akira, sweeping generalizations about women are regularly seen as sexist, and sexism isn't welcome here.

When I hear generalizations about all women, I feel angry because I know many women for whom these generalizations are not true, but whose voices are not being heard as stereotypes go unchallenged. Anger makes me inclined to post sarcastically or not to post at all, and both of these things are bad for barbelith as a whole. I would like for you to not make generalized unexamined statements about women, or indeed any group, on barbelith.

Thanks for hearing me out.
 
 
akira
17:22 / 01.05.06
Point taken. Not all woman have mobile phones.
 
 
*
17:32 / 01.05.06
I think maybe the point is not taken.
 
 
akira
17:40 / 01.05.06
Are you a girl (id)entity? Are their any woman reading this thread that are offended by what I said? How many of you, if fact have any men also used your phone to do your dirty work? I think this is an interesting point for debate.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
17:43 / 01.05.06
Don't be bad to the good cop. It's really unwise.
 
 
ibis the being
17:49 / 01.05.06
Akira, I would agree that your post was offensive, and I think defending it would be an exercise in both foolishness and futility.
 
 
akira
18:01 / 01.05.06
OK I understand, it was a bit of a general sweap. What I should have said was, I also have had experiances with woman (not all woman mind you) who like to use thier mobile phones to do their dirty work.
 
 
akira
18:03 / 01.05.06
In all honesty I think its beacuse they find it hard to hurt me to my face, and cant bear the look in my eyes. Bless thier little cotton socks.
 
 
Spaniel
18:04 / 01.05.06
Akira, I'd like to say welcome to Barbelith and point you in the direction of numerous threads that discuss, in great detail, how we view generalisations about women, but, you know, as you've been here for a while and made 400 posts, I can't and won't.
 
 
akira
18:05 / 01.05.06
Sorry not all woman were little cotton socks.
 
 
Triplets
18:09 / 01.05.06
Nor were they bowler hats.
 
 
*
18:53 / 01.05.06
To answer your question— no, I am a man. And I use the phone to accomplish many of my daily tasks, although I prefer email. I composed an email saying some things I really should have said in person just now, and before that I used a mobile phone to schedule a meeting with someone whose office is a block away; I could just have walked over.

Please bear in mind that when I say a person's language is rooted in sexism, I am not accusing that person of being bad or inferior. I am stating that I think that person has assumptions which they need to re-examine due to the effect these assumptions have on their behavior. That said, I'm interpreting the following as examples of sexism in action:


akira
19:53 / 01.05.06

Woman use mobile phones like magic wands. Hmmm today I think I'll encourage new growth...SHAZAM!

(Generalization and complaint about the behavior of a group; attributing unadmirable motivations to the group without cause; by itself objectionable.)


akira
20:22 / 01.05.06

Point taken. Not all woman have mobile phones.

(In context, I object to this because I think it showed that you were treating the concerns I raised to you as frivolous.)


akira
20:40 / 01.05.06

Are you a girl (id)entity? Are their any woman reading this thread that are offended by what I said? How many of you, if fact have any men also used your phone to do your dirty work? I think this is an interesting point for debate.

(Using the word "girl" instead of "woman" is indicative of contempt, in my opinion. The rest of your post as I read it suggests that sexism should only be of concern to women, whose opinions about it nonetheless don't matter because they are heartless beasts who use phones.)


akira
21:01 / 01.05.06

OK I understand, it was a bit of a general sweap. What I should have said was, I also have had experiances with woman (not all woman mind you) who like touse thier mobile phones to do their dirty work.

(Here it seems you're interpreting a motivation for astrojax's female friend, as well as other women you have known, for which you have no evidence.)


akira
21:03 / 01.05.06

In all honesty I think its beacuse they find it hard to hurt me to my face, and cant bear the look in my eyes. Bless thier little cotton socks.

(I'm reading this in context as contemptuous and drippingly venomous in tone. It plays on stereotypes of women as cowardly, soft, emotional, and weak.)
 
 
Mistoffelees
19:19 / 01.05.06
I´ve seen something weird on another message board this evening.

Two very well respected posters all of a sudden publicly voiced their relationship trouble in a thread. He complained to her, he can´t reach her by phone or otherwise (after an argument, he had moved into a hotel) and so he sees posting as the only way to get contact. They posted for a bit and it was very weird. That board is very well frequented and lots of people know that couple (not personally, they are "board-famous"). He even started to explain the situation to other posters, after they started accusing him of stalking.

I have never witnessed something like this before. Normally, these two are sweet and witty (I thought it was a joke, at first), now this.

I hope we never have to witness something like that here.
 
 
Dead Megatron
19:22 / 01.05.06
In all honesty I think its beacuse they find it hard to hurt me to my face, and cant bear the look in my eyes

Maybe you got psycho eyes and they get scared you'll snap on them.

Nah, I'm just being sarcastic here, ignore me

The issue in this thread is not "women and phones", for this would be too high-school for barbelith. The issue here is "usage of txt messages for breakups and adequacy thereof".

Which, just incidentaly, I myself never heard of any woman doing until now. Although, on the other hand, I have heard of some men doing it. What does that mean, akira? That women use phones to connect with people at a personal level, while men use it to avoid connecting with people at a personal level? Or that I just do not have a wide enough statistical group? Or none of the above and generalisations just don't work?
 
 
*
19:22 / 01.05.06
I agree. Communications breakdowns are horrible, and while technology can in some cases help us remedy them, they can also aggravate the situation— posting on a message board cannot have been an adequate substitute for communication face-to-face, with a mediator if desired.
 
 
*
19:24 / 01.05.06
The above to mistoffelees, obviously.
 
 
Mistoffelees
19:36 / 01.05.06
Wow, I´ve read more of that thread. They are 1) discussing with each other, 2) discussing to other posters about the situation, 3) giving very explicit details, 4) he´s afraid to go to her place, because she has a couple of guys hanging there, 4) posters are discussing about the couple, 5) and their reactions to the breakup and 6) one poster even has done a heartfelt well-done photoshop about it.

I´ve never seen anything like it. The internet´s possibilities for good or for bad still have in no way been explored for more than the tip of the iceberg, it would seem.
 
 
akira
20:13 / 01.05.06
Using the word "girl" instead of "woman" is indicative of contempt, in my opinion.

I used girl and woman the way I would when writting an essey, trying to mix it up abit, no intent there.

The rest of your post as I read it suggests that sexism should only be of concern to women

I cant see how you came to that conclusion.

whose opinions about it nonetheless don't matter because they are heartless beasts who use phones.

I cant see how you would think that I dont want to know what their opinions are either. I did ask?!

In all honesty I think its beacuse they find it hard to hurt me to my face, and cant bear the look in my eyes. Bless thier little cotton socks.
(I'm reading this in context as contemptuous and drippingly venomous in tone. It plays on stereotypes of women as cowardly, soft, emotional, and weak.)


I guess I have a sense of humor. No venom there either.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
20:16 / 01.05.06
Maybe they can't bear you, akira, and as such dump you in the most efficacious way possible as soon as the hangover wears off and some recall returns of the previous evening.
 
 
akira
20:24 / 01.05.06
This is why I only date girls with a sense of humor.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
20:26 / 01.05.06
They might need one.

One more tiny question, akira. What was your favourite Christmas present last year?
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
20:30 / 01.05.06
akira, you made a blatant generalisation about women. You were challenged on it, very politely and reasonably, by (id)entity. You chose to respond not by accepting hir helping hand out of the hole that you'd begun digging, but by biting it and grabbing a bigger shovel.

You're being rude, you're being sexist, and now you're putting the perfect end to a perfect evening by hiding behind the flimsy shield of JOKING!!1! that has served so many other similar posters so well in the past.

I would encourage you to take a step back and re-evaluate what you've written in the light of people's responses to it.
 
 
ibis the being
20:36 / 01.05.06
I've just got back from a short trip in my travelling time machine to tell akira "I told you so." Also, Mistoffeles, don't post that picture. You know the one.
 
 
akira
20:54 / 01.05.06
One more tiny question, akira. What was your favourite Christmas present last year?

A Dr Who ultraviolet pen.

akira, you made a blatant generalisation about women. You were challenged on it, very politely and reasonably, by (id)entity. You chose to respond not by accepting hir helping hand out of the hole that you'd begun digging, but by biting it and grabbing a bigger shovel.

I admited I made a generalisation. And thought I cleared it up.

You're being rude, you're being sexist, and now you're putting the perfect end to a perfect evening by hiding behind the flimsy shield of JOKING!!1! that has served so many other similar posters so well in the past.

I was rude before, in jest maybe, but yea it was rude and sexist.

I would encourage you to take a step back and re-evaluate what you've written in the light of people's responses to it.

I'm assuming your talking about this 'I also have had experiances with woman (not all woman mind you) who like to use thier mobile phones to do their dirty work.'

How can I re-evaluate this? Its the truth. I'm sure men do it too, but I have had no experiance of it. And personly I could never break up with a girl by txting her in a millian years, even if I hated her.
 
 
matthew.
21:17 / 01.05.06
Oh lord. Here we go again.
 
 
akira
21:24 / 01.05.06
Oh lord. Here we go again.

I detect shit stiring in your tone, and possibly humor. And 'we' is a massive generalisation, I suspect many people dont want to enter into this discusion.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
21:25 / 01.05.06
And I suspect that many more wish that you were one of them.
 
 
akira
21:26 / 01.05.06
No suspision there, its fact.
 
  

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