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TOOL - 10,000 Days

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11:33 / 08.05.06

Heard this in the record shop the other day and was mildly disappointed actually. It felt to me as a bit of a rehash of the ideas presented so perfectly on 'Lateralus' with Maynard doing his least convinving Robert Plant impersonation on some tracks. Now I've always thought that if anyone can do Robert Plant better than Robert Plant its Maynard, see their cover of 'No Quarter' for example. I guess I'm just disappointed that, unlike 'Lateralus, there hasn't been as much of a deepening of their sound, more of a variation on previous forms to my ears at least. Still, they'll probably still be amazing live...

12:24 / 08.05.06

Sorry, but I have to disagree. This album is an amazing return to form and a lot more interesting than Lateralus, which to me, is really their worst album. I really can't enjoy listening to it. It gets a lot of critical acclaim, but it's definately not as good as aenima or undertow. I find it really rather boring.

I would also say that a cursory listen in a record store isn't the best setting to take this album in, listen to it when you can really absorb how much more energy and fluidity this album has, it'll sink in then.

12:28 / 08.05.06

I'm finding that I need lots and lots of time to engage with this album. It certainly wasn't a full connection the first time I heard it. It still isn't.

12:52 / 08.05.06

I know a record store isn't the best place to really appreciate any record (oh irony) I just found it odd how many of the rhythmic devices employed in the album I already felt I knew by heart due to their similarity to Lateralus. I'm willing to be proven wrong, since it took me ages to appreciate their last album and then found it essential for ages. To tell you the truth I even found the artwork to be slightly generic Tool wierdness and not the aesthetic departure/innovation each previous album presented to me. Will give it some more time anon...

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

16:42 / 08.05.06

As an experiment I'm currently working my way through from Undertow to 10k Days to see if I can substantiate my theory that they've been improving with each album. Halfway through Aenima at the moment...

That aside, I really think this is their best album. I loved Lateralus, but I've kind of played it to death over the years, and it doesn't grab me by the brainstem in quite the way it used to. 10,000 Days DOES the brainstem-grabby; also I think the songs are better. My favourite song on it keeps changing from day to day, which is usually a good sign. Currently it's Rosetta Stoned, after a week in which the title track was the undisputed champ.

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

12:55 / 09.05.06

A partial success- I was getting progressively more trashed as I went on, so it's still hard to tell, but they definitely got better as they went on.

02:43 / 11.05.06

Not like it means anything, but the album is #1 on Billboard 200 in the United States this week with 565,000 copies sold in the first week.

uncle retrospective

05:15 / 11.05.06

I'm still fighting with 10,000 days. On the first listen I was getting very excited, the big crunchy riffs almost had me bouncing around (embarrassing when walking the dog) the we crash into Lateralus territory and to be honest that's not some where I want then to be. I found Lateralus to be far to self indulgent and, well dull, not a patch on the magic of Aenma. The drug references on Rosetta Stoned are far too teenage rubbish for my taste, where's the guy who gave us Third Eye? Now maybe I haven't heard it enough, getting to a Tool album takes a while, but there is nothing new here, it sounds almost as dull as a Perfect Circle. Bah!

uncle retrospective

05:19 / 11.05.06

Oh Stoaty, why no Opiate on your listening list? It's the second best thing they ever did.

Jack The Bodiless

10:48 / 11.05.06

It's good, but a bit dull these days. Like a batch of demos, or something, compared to what they produce today. Undertow sounds a bit feeble too, at least comparatively.

Really, this boils down to whether you think that Tool have improved as they've become more progressive, as the structure of their songs has broken down into a more experimental mode, or that they're not as good as they used to be. Opiate is good, but sounds like Soundgarden. 10,000 Days doesn't sound like anything else on earth.

uncle retrospective

12:20 / 11.05.06

I suppose my problem is that 10,000 sounds just like the last CD to me so far.

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

13:56 / 11.05.06

Opiate wasn't there cos I just put the full-lengths on my iRiver out of laziness. No Salival either, cos it's live and somehow that doesn't seem right.

15:56 / 12.05.06

Did you know there are backwards lyrics on intension ? If you play intension (the opening part first minute or so) backwards, maynard can be heard saying "stay in school, work hard, listen to your mother, your father is right"

Pretty funny..

22:20 / 27.05.06

For any guitar players here, and for laughs and sheer awesomeness aswell :

Jambi

Vicarious

The resistable rise of Reidcourchie

07:22 / 16.06.06

I saw Tool on Tuesday night at Hammersmith. I was wondering if anyone else had seen them either in London, Glasgow or Download and what they thought.

I loved the gig, my only complaint was that it seemed too short, especially with no support act.

07:42 / 16.06.06

I went to see Tool at both Download and Hammersmith (tue.) Both sets were pretty short with no encore, but it was nice to see Maynard being a little more active on stage and even exchanging a spot of banter with the crowd ("3-0, that sucked.")

Incidently the two sets were also almost entirely identical with the exception of them not playing The Pot at Hammersmith. From the reviews on alt.music.tool it would seem they also played the same set again on the Wednesday night, which was a bit of a shame for all the people that bought tickets for both nights. Also, the security at Hammersmith were a bit shitty, searching everyone really slowly and making sure everyone with a bag put it in the cloakroom. Also the bar staff were specifically asked by the band to decant all drinks into plastic glasses, even bottles of water. Perhaps because of the odd bottle being lobbed onto the stage at download.

But besides the sets being virtually identical I have almost no criticisms. Stinkfist, Aenema, Vicarious, Sober, all great.

Mindyou, what was up with that little break they took mid-set??!?!?1?!

07:57 / 16.06.06

I went to see them at Hammersmith on wednesday and loved it. My take will be somewhat different than most I suspect because usually I got to see electronic bands. Tool are one of the few metal acts I like.. I put this down to them being, to my ears, essentially a psychadelic band that happen to like metal as well.

I'm used to seeing rock acts on TV bouncing around, getting beer poured over them and other clowning antics, so it was a surprise to see Tool, particularly the guitarist and bass player so static. Not a complaint, just an observation. The drummer's amazing. I loved watching him keep up that relentless barrage of sounds. Actually, that notion applies to the whole gig... I was utterly captivated by these four relaxed, smiling, calm people who weren't being too showy making such an enourmous thundering, rich and complex sound using just their fingers, feet and lungs. Inspiring, awesome.

The resistable rise of Reidcourchie

09:53 / 16.06.06

I had assumed the break mid-set was the encore.

The drumming was indeed astonishing as was the general musical ability displayed.

I went with a friend who'd never heard Tool before (though she likes APC), their opening number was one of their less accessable tunes and I was initially worried that she thought the show was going to be a slightly podgy half naked guy with a mohican shouting at her but she loved it.

The quing up outside for the cloakroom at the end was not a great deal of fun and what I'm attributing to the reason we missed our tube and had to be rescued from Hammersmith (and not the post gig drink, that couldn't be the reason could it?)

All in all a brilliant night that should've been longer and included Saturn.

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

18:50 / 22.06.06

FUCKING MISSED THEM!!! FUCK!!!

Oh well. That aside, the album's passed one of the most important tests an album can face with me- having been played CONSTANTLY for a few weeks until I can't bear to listen to it again, I've gone back to it in the last few days and love it still/again. In fact it's a "must listen to ALL THE TIME" thing again. It's officially gone past the Stoatie Stage of being "the new album by (in this case Tool), which is bound to get Stoatie excited because he's always impressed by the new and shiny" and become "an ace album that Stoatie loves, now the novelty's worn off".

I think I'm saying it's fucking wicked in a very longwinded way.

21:04 / 22.06.06

Does anyone think they're still going to be listening to this in ten thousand days time though?

And if so, what if you've been listening to it every day by then? What happens? Will you become ... a god?

Basically, is there something in the sleevenotes about this?

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

22:09 / 22.06.06

To be honest, I'll be surprised and proud if I'm still alive in ten thousand days.

I'll listen to this in celebration if so. I should start some kind of countown.

Though I'll be old by then, Gran. Old and decrepit. You could give me some tips. And I REFUSE to have a HOUSE FULL OF CATS. Cats are weird. They steal your booze.

Anyhoo, back on topic- Rosetta Stoned is my fave track now. Purely for the lines "it's E motherfuckin' T!!!", "the Chosen One! They chose me! And I didn't graduate from high school!" and "must remember to write it down... but I forgot my pen".

It's ace.

The first time it all stops, then you get the big scream with the big chunky bass and the distorted vocals is my favourite bit of the whole album.

Now.

It'll probably be a different bit tomorrow.

I love this album.

Jack The Bodiless

22:11 / 22.06.06

Heh. Sleevenotes. On a Tool album? Bless.

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

19:33 / 24.06.06

Silly Granny.

15:19 / 10.08.06

From an interview on the recording and mastering of the album....

"Each of Tool's albums has hidden tracks or sonic Easter eggs for the listener to discover." "Yeah, there's things on this record," Barresi reveals. "There are two in particular that are very interesting. One was a piece that Adam had worked on. We put it together while we were at mastering and in the hotel room the night before. We kind of tweaked it more the following day with effects, arranging and stuff."

Can anyone shed any light?

The resistable rise of Reidcourchie

14:57 / 29.11.06

James apparently two of the tracks on 10000 Days are exactly the same length (I forget which), I have been told that if they are played in synchronous they are complimenarty. This is second hand info and I haven't tried it.

Did anyone see them at Wembley Arena on Monday? If so weren't Isis due to support? Also if you were there can anyone tell me the name of the 2nd or 3rd track they played? It was one of their earlier (pre-Aenima tracks)?

16:12 / 29.11.06

Yeah, IIRC it was 10,000 days and Wings, but when you put them together it just sounded like nonsense. Of the two hidden things that Maynard mentioned in the interview above, one of them is definitely some speech played backwards saying something along the lines of 'stay in school, don't do drugs etc..'

I didn't go to see them on their most recent leg of the tour mainly because I'd already seen them at Download and Hammersmith and didn't fancy treking to a big venue. Oh, and ISIS were only due to support on the US leg.

As for the set list, distortiononline says . . .

November 27, 2006
Wembley Stadium | Wembley, England
Winter '06 Euro Tour
Mastodon

Setlist
Stinkfist
Swamp Song
Jambi
Schism
Lost Keys
Rosetta Stoned
The Pot
Wings For Marie
10,000 Days
Lateralus
Vicarious
Ænema

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

22:27 / 29.11.06

It's supposed to be Viginti Tres followed by Wings as one track, played at the same time as 10,000 Days. There're a couple of bits where it sounds amazing, but no more than you'd get just through coincidence, really.

The resistable rise of Reidcourchie

07:09 / 30.11.06

Cheers guys, much appreciated.

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

14:51 / 30.11.06

I've actually got an MP3 of the combined thing somewhere which I can YouSendIt to you if I can find the bugger...

...don't expect much, though.

07:54 / 27.04.07

Tool playing one off show at Brixton, Tuesday 21st August. Tickets available from ticket master!

14:29 / 21.08.07

Hi guys, just had an email from ticket master regarding the gig tonight (and presumably tomorrow.) Usually venues have a cloak room for depositing bags, but TM are suggesting that you won't even be allowed inside the venue. Also, they're banning cameras, although I can't possibly believe that includes camera phones, but who knows...

Pretty nice of them to inform us by email a full 3 hours before the doors open. What about all the people who weren't at their computers before they left for the gig?

Email follows, and remember, don't shoot the messenger:

Dear Ticketmaster Customer,

Thank you for purchasing tickets for Tool at the Carling Academy Brixton.
On the artist's request please note the following regulations:
- No bags will be allowed into the venue on this show. Please leave all bags at home!
- All cameras are prohibited. Please do not bring any cameras to the show because all cameras will be confiscated at the front doors. Anyone attempting to take pictures will be ejected from the venue.
- Other prohibited items: Chains, laser pens / flash lights, glass items, food, beverages and any other kind of projectiles and items that are deemed to challenge public safety.
- All customers will be subject to a full pat down search.
- Crowd surfing and moshing is strictly prohibited. Anyone engaging in this activity will be ejected from the venue.

For the event to run as smoothly as possible we are asking that the rules are adhered to and that none of the items above are brought to the venue.

If you require any further assistance please contact us by clicking on http://www.ticketmaster.co.uk/h/customer_serve.html

We thank you for your cooperation

Please enjoy the show!

Kind Regards
Ticketmaster Customer Service Department

20:44 / 25.08.07

heh, guess a few people will be getting 'ejected' then..

17:05 / 28.08.07

It was actually a pretty good gig despite the bouncers pushing their way into the crowd to remove people taking pictures. Definitely better than the previous two nights I've seen them on the 10,000 days tour (Download Festival and Hammersmith.)

I even saw a lesser spotted Stoat at the bar but figured introducing myself to someone who I recognised from their pictures on the net might seam a little stalkery.. . .

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

17:18 / 28.08.07

Ah, you shoulda done. I probably wouldn't remember it now anyway... I was, shall we say, erm, what's the polite term... ah yes, "WANKERED ON DRUGS".

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