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Astonishing X-Men Year Two

 
  

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Jack Denfeld
15:39 / 25.04.06
I know Iron Man better stop eyeballing Cap in that cover unless he wants to eat some star spangled adamantium.

Also, Bishop is sad and crying.
 
 
The Falcon
15:40 / 25.04.06
Nor is there a wheelchair. But Bishop is crying.
 
 
The Falcon
15:42 / 25.04.06
x-post, obvs. Hurrah for the tears of the future mutant. Are they those of frustration, perhaps?
 
 
Spyder Todd 2008
18:35 / 25.04.06
Also, on that cover, how come Spidey is in his ugly new Iron Spider get up, but Wolverine is back in his brown and tan threads?
 
 
Imaginary Mongoose Solutions
02:28 / 26.04.06
Because he's back to wearing the brown threads sometimes, now. Went back to them in the shitetastic "Origins and Endings" story and the Wolverine: Origins series.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
02:36 / 26.04.06
Wow, shocking, a comic book character that actually changes his clothes now and then. Running between all those books probably makes Logan pretty sweaty.
 
 
thirty/thirty
05:53 / 26.04.06
Yeah, all of the Astonishing X-Men got invited (even Lockheed) but not Brad and Ange...I mean Scott and Emma.

Xavier is not in that (very bad, shame on Frank Cho) picture.

That's what you get for enslaving a robot dominatrix and making her do things.

There is a preview on IGN. No dialogue though.

The three page preview is a flashback to Scott and Jean's time in the Australian outback. One whole 1st issue of monotony and X-Men bill paying and now a 2nd issue of which the first three pages consist of flashback and Jean doing Kitty Pryde impersonations. Oh this arc is just going to be wonderful. I can tell.
 
 
Aertho
15:42 / 26.04.06
Emma Frost is the best thing to happen to the X-Men. We all knew that already, but yeah!
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
15:58 / 26.04.06
Cassandra, I'd hold that statement until you actually finish #14.

DEVIOUS fucking shit, man.
 
 
Aertho
16:21 / 26.04.06
Okay, the only thing I didn't read was the letters page. Are you afraid that Nova is Emma? Emma is Nova? All minds in one body? I still think Emma nailed Scott, and yay!
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
16:26 / 26.04.06
Dude! If by nailed you mean rendered him completely inert then yeah, she totally did.

But up until the reveal, I was totally in her corner. And no, I don't think Cassandra Nova is Emma. Although Hank does have the keenest of senses.
 
 
Aertho
16:34 / 26.04.06
Inert? She made him grow up. Finally.

I only read that she got him to realize that he always HAD control of his power, and that he refused to control it internally, so that he had to always control it externally -through ruby quartz or stoic personality. Scott then threw up. You think something else happened there?
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
16:36 / 26.04.06
I think he's completely comatose there.
 
 
LDones
00:19 / 27.04.06
Cass might be onto something.

Could be Emma's morality-trick: "Disabled Scott like you asked, Ms. Nova, but damned if I didn't actually supercharge him so he can save the day and kick your ass after a short bit of downtime."
 
 
Aertho
00:27 / 27.04.06
Which is exactly Emma's M.O.
 
 
Slim
01:18 / 27.04.06
I only read that she got him to realize that he always HAD control of his power, and that he refused to control it internally, so that he had to always control it externally -through ruby quartz or stoic personality. Scott then threw up. You think something else happened there?

Scot can control is optic blasts now?
 
 
Aertho
02:47 / 27.04.06
Spoilers












He always could.
 
 
Slim
03:38 / 27.04.06
I haven't read the issue so I'll reserve judgment, but my initial reaction is intense skepticism.
 
 
dmj2012
04:14 / 27.04.06
I didn't realize 14 had come out. I've gotta go pick it up. Sounds like a cool little twist.
 
 
diz
06:07 / 27.04.06
My skepticism with regard to this particular character twist really stems from the same source as my skepticism any time some major character dies: marketing pressures or a new creator are just going to retcon this in two or three years.
 
 
Evil Scientist
08:04 / 27.04.06
He always could.

Meh. Sounds like the whole revelation about Archangel's techno-organic wings having an "evil personality", a story they'd been building for ages. "It was you all along Warren!"

Still, Cyclops is about due a secondary mutation and I recall he had full control of his eye-beams in that terrible "Adventures of Phoenix and Cyclops" mini where they jaunted to Cable's future.
 
 
FinderWolf
14:20 / 27.04.06
I liked the bit about Scott sometimes fantasizing that he was cool super-sexy bad-ass 'all the chicks love him' Logan.

Whedon took Morrison's emphasis on Scott's repression issues and did some nice work with that concept here.

Although Jean does look like Kitty Pryde in the opening scenes...Cassaday is amazing but sometimes his female faces go a tiny bit awry. He is pencilling and inking two bi-monthly books though, so I cut him some slack. Helluva nice guy, too.
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
14:52 / 27.04.06
Kitty orgasmically falling through the floor was one of the funniest bits of comics storytelling in a superhero book I've seen for awhile.

So...um, Scott's gonna need a new codename, huh?
 
 
Aertho
14:58 / 27.04.06
Although Jean does look like Kitty Pryde in the opening scenes...

As far as X-Men go, Jean is Kitty Pryde. Everytime Jean dies, Kitty comes back to school. Then Kitty quits "to grow up", and Jean comes back to life. And then there's their relationships with Logan. We all loved Jean taking over in NXM, and Kitty's the one they all listened to during Claremont's days.
 
 
dmj2012
06:22 / 28.04.06
Kitty orgasmically falling through the floor was one of the funniest bits of comics storytelling in a superhero book I've seen for awhile.

I agree.

As to Scott gaining control of his blasts, we don't really have much to go on until next issue or whenever. If it's true, of course it'll get retconned at some point, but as someone who tends to follow writers rather than characters, continuity has never held too much sway over me.

And Emma's motivations? Whedon says he's a big fan of Morrison's run, so Emma turning around and betraying the Hellfire Club claiming it was her idea to do so all along would fit with Morrison's characterization of Emma.

Then again, Whedon's usual MO is to have characters fall in love, only to have them get put through the ringer. Betrayal and good characters trungin evil (and vice versa) are Whedon's mainstay.

Interesting run so far.
 
 
Spaniel
10:20 / 28.04.06
God this run frustrates me. There's some real quality there - far better writing, dialogue and characterisation than most comic writers are capable of, and the art, whilst occasionally shakey (see the Jean as Kitty comments above), is on the whole top notch. In fact the difficulty I have fitting the run into current continuity almost makes it feel like, I dunno, ASS X-Men, in that there's a purity to it, a divorce from the constraints of continuity, that's almost absent in the other X-books.
That said, it's forever late (as hell), it suffers from badly paced and sometimes slapdash storytelling (probably a product of its late as hellness), and it's failing utterly to carry the drama from one episode to the next.

Ho hum.
 
 
Tom Coates
11:22 / 28.04.06
Also Colossus was hot.
 
 
Jack Denfeld
17:47 / 28.04.06
The eye beam control kinda makes sense. Supposedly a fall gave Scott some kind of brain damadge which made him lose control of his optic blasts, but wouldn't Xavier have just had someone heal his team leader eventually?

Scott got an emotional beatdown this issue, Emma was very mean, especially the whole "He made you leader because you weren't special in any way".

Hank must be shitting his pants to see Cassie. Last encounter she fucked with his mind and had some kid beat the hell out of him with a baseball bat. Yikes.

Whedon's first arc didn't do anything for me, but this new one looks like it's shaping up to be pretty good.
 
 
dmj2012
05:29 / 29.04.06
It's quite possible that Emma's treatment of Scott was her being "cruel to be kind." If it is a ruse and she's not actually working for the Hellfire Club it would make sense. In real life cases where people have physical disorders due to mental trauma, sometimes you have to be really harsh to break through the mental defenses.
 
 
Spaniel
06:47 / 29.04.06
It would also make sense in terms of her character.
 
 
Slim
13:21 / 29.04.06
This is something that Xavier and Grey, possibly the two most powerful telepaths in the world, never realized?
 
 
Jack Denfeld
13:28 / 29.04.06
Or they did realise, and never bothered with it. Because they thought Scott was too weak to deal with it?
 
 
Quimper
16:11 / 29.04.06
A lot of parallels and connections to GM's x-run. Emma is doing to Scott what Jean did to her when the Phoenix purged Ms. Frost and forced her into evolution ("Why did I have to fall in love with Scott bloody Summers?").

She's optimizing the team. She's an agent of change forcing the hand of a stalemated system. She prodded Kitty and Peter to do the backseat-mambo. Why? Cuz it's "'bout time." (Funniest moment in 2006 comics, btw). She pushed them through the doorframe they were stuck in.

She's evidently gotten further into Scott than anyone could. Not because she's more powerful, but because she was looking. Trouncing Jean's passive approach to her relationship with Scott...Emma is simply not satisfied and knows he can be more (So "in character!!"...remember what she did to Iceman so many years ago).

Up next, Beast. IMO, Nova is Emma. She's changin' bodies all over the damn place! Jean. Wolvie. Hank's purging is imminent? It's time to get over that one moment that's holding you back...that one moment of truly violating terror.

The White Queen is the best thing to happen to these people. Tough love, beeotches!
 
 
X-Himy
00:37 / 30.04.06
I always thought that falling from the plane gave Scott actual physical brain damage. Granted, one could argue that with all the healers around, there might be the possibility of healing, but the brain is too complicated for all that yada yada yada. I would imagine that the supression of Cyclops powers would involve a shutdown, either he runs out of the cosmic juice or circumventing an entire portion of the brain. But still, psychically unlocking Scott's ability to control his powers is weak sauce in my opinion. Unless the supression involves the fact that he's now a vegetable.
 
 
LDones
00:53 / 30.04.06
I'd just like to comment on the awesomeness of Scott's rampaging sexual fears all but blurted out:

"I wonder, if it got out of control... would it still only come from my eyes?"


It also occurs to me that this might be another step of Cassandra Nova's rehabilitation, that *she* may be the one with a secretly helpful agenda.
 
  

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