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Getting Hallucinogenic Drugs

 
  

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Sniv
21:09 / 14.02.06
Oooh drug stories, fun. I really really want to do acid, but where I live you can't get it for love nor money, which is a bugger. I love mushrooms, and went through a phase when they were legal of eating them all weekend, and watch movies, which was awesome. I have a list as long as my arm of trippy enjoyable movies. What I enjoyed most was particularly OTT action and sci-fi films. I watched the Matrix Reloaded (yes, I know..), and it was awesome, all big explosions and effects that make you lose all sense of reality.

Particularly fun (I preface this by saying I realise how... stereotypically head-y this is of me, but whatthefuck, it was fun) was synching up movies and music. I called it 'God' one night, the way the TV/playstation and stereo would sync, it was great fun. Anyway, try mixing tracks 3 and 4 of the Mars Volta's Deloused... album with the Animatrix short The Second Rennaissance part 2. Seriously, it works a treat when you're tripping your tits off, especially near the start, when you're all rushy and hysterical. There's one bit where an atomic bomb goes off on screen at the exact same time as a massive shift in tempo/octave in the music. I thought my heart would pound out of my chest, and my eyes watered uncontrollably. It were awesome.

Other great tripping films are Lord of the Rings (obviously), Fear and Loathing (of course), Donnie Darko (hey, I said we're stereotypes), Kung Fu Hustle, Spiderman (swiiiiing!), Shrek 2 (the details, it's all in the details), and many other's I can't remember, thanks to having no memory.

However, ideas can be lethal. If they don't kill you, you could well be maimed or psychologically... altered, for a long time. My one bad trip (in at least 40 in one year) was when, after watching a particularly busy King-Fu movie that spun me out, I tried watching the news, as to get a grip on subjective-reality. Here's a tip - don't do that. It's scary, grim authoritaian confusing evil nastiness. I turned some music on and laid back, and became lost in the old proverb about the man who dreamt he was a butterfly, or was he the butterfly dreaming about being a man? That threw me for a loop and confused me lots, and the next thing I knew, I could see all of my life stretching ahead of me, but only the negatives - the losses, the uncertainties, the hellish certainties of working for the rest of your life, and the fact that as a whole, and entity, society was against me and my friends for doing the things we were doing right then, which was getting fucked on a smorgasboard of classes and powders and liquids. I think it was a really skewed paranoia trip, but it's stuck with me ever since, that feeling of horrible inevitablity of a) getting old and b) getting caught.

That aid, this was only once, and most of the time I'm a happy space-cadet. Give me some acid. =)
 
 
Dr. Tom
00:51 / 15.02.06
Simply read what Sasha (Alexander) T. Shulgin, PhD has brought to us. A full Professor of Biochemistry at Berkeley, the Man has actualy brought more psychedelic substances to the world than anyone else (including ecstasy). He had a DEA license to do it...

He brings wisdom.

http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/shulgin/blg/index.html

Erowid has his public domain work. Buy the rest.
 
 
T Blixius
01:55 / 15.02.06
my opinion is that acid is better, if you can get good quality gelatin based lsd. One thing is that it is easier to dose correctly than with shrooms, which can have varying amounts of the active chemicals. (psilocin and psilocybin)

That can lead to either tripping too hard or not tripping enough. At least with acid, if you take 1 hit, you know it's only going to vary between 50 to 100 mcgs in 98 percent of the available brands out there.

There have been times i've taken an 1/8th of an ounce of mushrooms and tripped for days, times it's given me a great trip, times it's given me a very negative trip, times I've not tripped hardly at all and my friend who took the other 1/8 tripped super hard... etc.

I feel acid in many cases, although the visuals may not be as strong, is better quality experience overall.
 
 
LykeX
02:22 / 15.02.06
I have to join the choir that says: "Boring?"
I don't get that at all, but then again, everyone's different and that especially true of psychedelics.

If you haven't already, I suggest you read a LOT. Suck up all the info you can and take your time doing it. I experimented with psychedelics a while back and if I hadn't known what I did, the experience could very well have freaked me out.
As it was, it was total mindfuck, but not a bad trip.

Like someone said, there are legal alternatives, though they are usually not as good. Morning glory comes to mind, although some people dislike it.

If you do, take care.
 
 
Dead Megatron
02:22 / 15.02.06
The last drug I've decided to try is sobriety (first time in what, ten years?). Guess I'll have to wait for the cumulative effect to kick in. But I'll tel you this: it is cheap.

There's no hallucination as weird as this one we call reality...
 
 
De Selby
03:09 / 15.02.06
Its good to see someone making an informed drug decision, rather than just relying on propaganda or "this shits mad" kind of reviews.

I was more talking about ayahuasca and salvia etc...things well worth listening to but never ever gonna become Street.

I would highly recommend dmt and salvia, especially for the first time, as its easy to regulate the dose, and they only last 15 minutes! That way if you suddenly realise you aren't the tripper you thought you'd be, you've only got 10 minutes to wait it out.

But I'd be careful about legality of these drugs. Neither are legal in Australia, or US. Dunno about UK.

oh and another film to add to the list would be Apocalypse Now.

"The horror... the horror..."
 
 
Tuna Ghost: Pratt knot hero
06:35 / 15.02.06
That way if you suddenly realise you aren't the tripper you thought you'd be, you've only got 10 minutes to wait it out.

I never listened to advice like this until after I took some mescaline.

Dealer: It's pure stuff man. I know you have a weak stomach, you might get sick-

Me: Whatever. Give it here.

Dealer: I'm serious, the trip lasts like twenty hours-

Me: Shut up and gimme.

Four hours of fun and sixteen hours of nausae. Thankfully I had a babysitter. Know your limits, people!
 
 
Spaniel
08:11 / 15.02.06
I'm going to join Smoothly in urging caution.
I've had very very good times - mindblowing times - on mushrooms and LSD, I've also had some horrific times - that ultimately didn't help my mental health, and put me off virtually all drugs (bar alcohol) for life. Not only that, but a number of my friends have had very similar experiences.
Admittedly we started taking psychedelics at quite a young age (mid-teens), and I have always been pretty sensitive to the effects of drugs, but it pays to treat hallucingens with the respect they deserve.

Bear in mind that until you know your tolerance levels, and even when you do, psychedlics are unpredictable. I once took 15 mushrooms (in tea) and was hit ten times harder than when I took 150 a month later. In fact, I don't think I've hallucinated like that before or since.
 
 
LykeX
08:44 / 15.02.06
Concerning the legality of salvia: Erowid Salvia Vault

Seems salvia is legal in the US (in some states) and the UK, unless it's changed recently.
 
 
grant
11:47 / 15.02.06
I can't understand this enthusiasm for liquid LSD when, because of dosage, the only was to be sure what you're actually getting is if it's on a little piece of paper (since something in a liquid solution could be anything, but something on itty bits of paper is only going to be something effective in itty doses).

(Or so I've read.)
 
 
A
14:46 / 15.02.06
Make sure you're doing it somewhere you feel comfortable and safe, with people you feel comfortable with and can trust. (I would recommend avoiding crowds at first, because it can be easy to get a little freaked out in public places ).

Don't get too hung up on having "trippy" music/art/objects to stimulate you. Just go for whatever you feel like. You might find that the Sex Pistols sound like a backwards psychedelic orchestra or that Peanuts comics seem to be an intricate cosmic tapestry, or something. Or you might not. Whatever hoists your flag.

You might feel a bit nervous or edgy from time to time. Relax.

You'll probably find it difficult to eat much, even if you feel hungry (your stomach can often feel really strange). Stock up on some tasty treats beforehand if you like, but don't worry if you just take a bite and can't eat anymore. I find stone fruits seem to be good to have on hand, but maybe that's just me.

Have fun.
 
 
De Selby
02:52 / 08.03.06
So Legba, what did you decide in the end? Spoken to the machine elves yet? Or playing it safe?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
06:09 / 08.03.06
I really really want to do acid, but where I live you can't get it for love nor money, which is a bugger.

It's tough to live in ALKALINE WORLD!
 
 
De Selby
06:33 / 08.03.06
I really really want to do acid, but where I live you can't get it for love nor money, which is a bugger.

It's tough to live in ALKALINE WORLD!


*groan*
 
 
All Acting Regiment
08:32 / 08.03.06
May well be getting my mits on a salvia plant. Bit squeezed for cash at the moment, though...
 
 
c0nstant
12:02 / 08.03.06
has anyone else mixed E and Shrooms?

I tried it at new years a few years ago and had one of the best drug experiences of my life. I was proper loved up for 12 hrs had heavy hallucinations and could NOT stop talking (although, I get that with pills anyway).

I dropped the shrooms just after I started coming up on the pills, so I'm guessing the extreme good mood I was in effected the shrooms.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
20:42 / 09.03.06
WOW

SALVIA

First, chewed it, made a tea of it...lsitened to Sun Ra...could hear Her skittering in the background...put Os Mutantes on...the music was extra special...running with the scorpions...thousands of us...then in the forest, the amazon, all my brothers and sisters dancing round a fire...jungle full of life...towering trees...thumping drums...trees moving quick as snakes punching through buildings cars and other needless shite...

then the knife rising...bright sun behind it...smiling, laughing children as it stabbed me! It was great...

The plants like us! They're good! Good information!

Then my friend asked me over so I did go and i wnet through the park and the trees, yeah, they're not static, they're growing and morphing as fast and slippery as lightning...just we can't see it because we're in the wrong timeframe...

Then...we chewed some...then made a plate full and burned it...breatehd in...nothing much happening...then...hold it in...blacked out...

FAST

REALLY FAST

Everything was fast and the trees if i could see them would be flashingh like lightning...

i saw this little cartoon boy, little nothing cartoon bear boy...a nothing...an analogy: he was yogi bear's assistant, and i was a really big bear. He was upset...I...was upsetting him. he was like a nothing, a cartoon...he didn't know...

Then i stopped.

"You alright?" my mate said.

Turns out I'd just been standing there and then bang...fell right down, bumped head and others on the cooker...some blood, but i dont care...then flailed around madly for ten seconds...

But i was at normal speed. He had seemed really slow.

i didnt crack my head open. the plants are our friend!

then i got pizza, came here, typed this
 
 
All Acting Regiment
20:49 / 09.03.06
well, i sort of did crack my head open
 
 
Shrug
20:51 / 09.03.06
Ow but also kind of yay. If it's still ongoing have fun Legba. Do what you want as long as it doesn't make sense (outside the hermetically sealed world of tripping at least).
 
 
Alex's Grandma
21:06 / 09.03.06
Glad you're having a good time, LR.

Before it wears off, and if there's a copy handy, I'd recommend that you listen to 'Wuthering Heights' by Kate Bush - You'll laugh, you'll cry, you'll hide in the wardrobe, it's quite an experience.
 
 
Spaniel
21:11 / 09.03.06
I'm glad you've had a good time, Legs.

You're making me jealous.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
21:14 / 09.03.06
wow

i love you!

i will refrain form the serious partso f the board until i am bakc to greysland

wow

all the trolls arej ust little darlings, i wannt to give them a little teap arty, show them what theyveb een doing wrong
 
 
Mon Oncle Ignatius
21:33 / 09.03.06
Cool! We've got a real live good trip going on here in Legbaland. Hooray for altered states!

Have fun with the salvia, and enjoy this site if you feel up to some psychedelic images right now.
 
 
LykeX
21:41 / 09.03.06
And there you go. Not too bad, was it?
It is generally a good idea to sit down when smoking salvia, since the rush might very well make you fall. But I guess you already know that.
I have not tried salvia myself, though. impossible to get my hands on. I envy you.
 
 
astrojax69
22:18 / 09.03.06
g'won legba, get the ol' voice recorder out and tell it a story...

or write stuff down (not here) and read it tomorrow. laugh? til you stop...

have fun!!

[reads incredibly much like you are - 'cept the broken head bit...]
 
 
rising and revolving
23:35 / 09.03.06
Yay! I love the live updates of altered states!
 
 
Thaddeus "B." Glands
01:13 / 10.03.06
This Salvia sounds quite interesting (and surprisingly intense for a legal high). I certainly feel I ought to look into trying it, especially considering the fact that I can't seem to get my hands on illegal psychedelics at all. Not through want of trying, mind, it's just that everytime I get a lead, it falls though one way or another.

Just out of interest, Legba, where did you get yours? I noticed you could get some here, but in extract form, rather than the leaves which you took.
 
 
De Selby
01:39 / 10.03.06
Salvia is tonnes of fun - reality falling apart, gravity quadrupling, unbelievable hallucinations.

An Extract is good, I've had 6x but apparently you can get 10x. Leaf material is obviously not as strong as an extract, so you need to have more.

If you are smoking it, the hotter the lighter the better. I don't know why this is.... seems a little odd really.

I've never heard of people eating it, how long did it last Legba?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
01:43 / 10.03.06
WRT the heat thing, it's not so much about the temperature itself, as far as I understand- it's that the active ingredient burns off very quickly, so it's important to turn it all into smoke and get it into your lungs before it loses its potency. Ths is why it makes for great bong-hits but shit spliffs.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
08:52 / 10.03.06
Hello all. Where did I get the leaves from? Actually, from a stall at my student's union. In broad daylight. Just off the road. In the middle of the student elections. I am a jammy geezer.

Because it's legal you're more likely to find it in headshops...there's obviously less impetus for an actual drug dealer to deal in it because people can grow it without getting arrested. Anywhere that sells bongs and suchlike is likely to sell it in little packets. You can just walk in and ask as it's not controlled. Price is very variable. I paid a tenner for 1/8 oz, which might seem a lot but the woman was syphoning some of the money off to Respect and various charities.

You could buy the plant from a garden centre and have an endless supply. Has to be Salvia Divinorum, though, and actually it might be even more specific than that. It'll be in the "mints" section. Have a look on Erowid.org.

Chewing (not eating: it has to rub up against the muccous membrane (MATRON) and if it goes in your stomach it just gets dissolved) wasn't so much actively trippy as it helped the imagination along.

Dried leaves aren't so good for that anyhow. You want fresh leaves and you have to crunch 'em up in your mouth to get the juices flowing. You need to chew a lot over half an hour like the Curedras do. It was pretty cool, it gave good vibes, and I was more happy than I had realised when I went through the park, but chewing wasn't as powerful as the ad-hoc bong session.

The trip proper happened after two hard hits from the bong. Whether it was also influenced by the chewing and tea I'm not sure, could have been a residual buildup too. Still got a lot left over though.
 
 
Slate
16:29 / 11.03.06
Heya Legba, looks to me like your bored? I've tried 'drugs' yeah, they can be a blast and also ambiguous...

Try this if you want to go to the trouble, a bit safer than external influences. It's not a drug, your just confusing your brain into thinking your eyes are open and you are seeing something when your not, your subconscience is 'filling in the blanks' so to speak. The Link will explain the rest. I have been meaning to finish mine off and give it a spin but I am a 78rpm pitch control short of getting it going. I'll get there soon though. Happy trails.
 
 
De Selby
08:56 / 13.03.06
Legba, sounds like you had a good time. Do you think you got anything (other than the whole "woah" factor) from it? Would you do hallucinogens again? If so, Salvia or something different?

Sorry for being so inquisitive, but its interesting hearing from a green hallucinogen user, and their experiences.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
09:37 / 13.03.06
Well, it showed me that what we experience as "reality" isn't the whole story, that you can experience it in a whole bunch of different ways, and that things "here", i.e. in the non-drug state, maybe aren't as significant as they seem- things like being afraid of certain people or events- there's not so much to worry about because in fact this world isn't important at all in the great scale of things.

Which is to say, it's helping to chip down certain prejudices. Hating people is stupid because we're all just bugs on a petri dish at this stage.

I'm experiencing nature a lot more forcefully too: plants, animals, landscapes and people are all ultra. I'm noticing things I hadn't before. Living things as a stage along a much bigger path: I see a tree and I envisage a seed and then growth and change, not just a static wooden object. I see forests as erupting like waves.

At the moment I'm sticking to Salvia; may well try out mushrooms.
 
 
Shrug
09:51 / 13.03.06
You used to be able to get mushrooms across counter in alot of places in Ireland. They've been banned for about two months now. *sigh*
 
 
All Acting Regiment
15:33 / 30.03.06
Tonight I will be looking after some friends while they take mushrooms. Any particular advice for the caretaker?
 
  

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