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Less searchable M0rd4nt
22:37 / 07.08.06
Wait, didn't see that before... Seks, shouldn't that read Heimdall's aett, rather than Hagl's?
 
 
grant
01:45 / 08.08.06
Weird -- I was just toying with the idea of bumping this old thread after coming across my copy of Nigel Pennick's Practical Magic in the Northern Tradition and sort of accidentally immersing myself in this stuff again.

He gives the ninth rune the name Haegl, by the way. Doesn't mention Heimdall with that aett.

But one thing he does mention is the correspondence between the 24 runes of the futhark and divisions of the year, and with the old system of measurement. Imperial feet and inches (and acres and rods) descend from a double set of measurements used in northern Europe before the Romans came -- "northern feet" and "natural feet" were the basic units.

Let me see if I can get this to make sense. A "northern foot" was also called a "Saxon foot," and was a third-again larger than a "natural foot." In other words, three shafthands made a natural foot, and four shafthands made a Saxon foot. A shafthand was supposedly the width of a hand grasping a spear, I gather.

One shafthand was made of three thumbs, which equaled 9 barleycorns. Or, in other words, three threes.

Two northern feet made a northern cubit, or an ell (8 shafthands). ("Ell" is a great word for crossword puzzles, by the way.) Three ells (or 24 shafthands) made a fathom.

Two and a half fathoms (15 northern feet, 20 natural feet) made a rod, 40 rods made a furlong, and 8 furlongs made a mile.

Pennick has these arranged so that there are three levels under the foot, and five levels above the foot -- the smaller measures are all in magic 3s, while the larger are in magic 8s. (Not just the five plus the three, but also by doubling a foot, then doubling that measure, then doubling that measure, etc.)

Pennick explains: The number nine, which is the sacred number of the North par excellence, occurs in the arrangement 3-3-3 underlying the natural foot. The rune equivalent to nine is Hagal or Haegl, the hailstone, that icy egg or seed of primal cosmic pattern and life underlying the mystical framework of the world. Within this framework, the sacred geometrical structure of matter, natural measure acts as a reference point through which the Mysteries can be approached.

He goes on to link the thumbs in a foot with Jera, representing the cyclical pattern of the universe, completion and the cycle of the solar year, and the rod - the basic unit you use to measure land, not people - with Eolh or Elhaz, the rune of sanctuary, protection and boundaries. The rod is the canonical measure of ancient tradition for the mystic plot - sacred ground set aside for ceremonies -- used by the secret semi-official Vehmgericht courts of Westphalia, Germany. The court measured out its ground with a sacred measuring rod called a mete-wand (apparently used in Canne and Baton stick-fighting -- there's an illustration to this effect on the facing page.)

Anyway, I think what Pennick is getting at is that three ranks of eight runes = relationship to units of measure. In the old days, measuring something was an act with esoteric significance, and the runes reflect that.
 
 
Rigettle
12:07 / 09.08.06
Nigel's stuff is great but he never seems to explain his sources of information very clearly, which makes me a mite uncomfortable.

I'll be honest, most of what follows is highly personal.

Ever hear of the 33 rune "northumbrian" futhorc from the famous Thames Scramasax?

If you count it on it makes a fourth aett, with one wild card, Gar -- Woden's Spear.

I work with the runes a lot but have probably drifted from tradition a bit over the years. Anyway, for your a-musement here are the staves in question as I use them my in own idiosyncratic way, along with my own favourite kennings.

Oak: strength under test
Ash: the centre, axis mundi, a sense of balance or stability
Yew Bow: weapon, tool, technology, purpose
Beaver: (see Osborne & Longland) a creature of two worlds or elements, equally at home on land or in water
Death: you know...
Fire twirl: kindling a flame
Chalk: a soft water worn rock, also Cup: another dimension to the watery softness kenning
Stone: a magical talisman, object of quest or burden (millstone around neck)
Spear: not just any old spear! Looking at the shape of the stave, it looks like a bind rune of Ing & Giving.

BTW I don't go for these pretend proto-germanic rune names, Middle Anglish or simple translations into a modern idiom suit me better.

I hope that you may find this interesting.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
12:50 / 09.08.06
Hi, Rigettle, thanks for your input. We also have a thread for the discussion of the futhorc and Northumbrian runes, which might interest you.
 
 
Sekhmet
23:20 / 09.08.06
Wait, didn't see that before... Seks, shouldn't that read Heimdall's aett, rather than Hagl's?

I don't think so... the passage in question was ganked from Uppsala, and W.S. actually states in that section that there may once have been a god named Hagl after whom the aett was called. Why Wayland isn't calling it Heimdall's aett, as so many do, I actually don't know. There may be a basis for it of which I'm unaware.

Man, it's interesting to see all these rune threads popping up just now...
 
 
grant
17:35 / 08.09.06
Just found this very interesting thing on daymarks, the old Scandinavian way to measure time.

It's also based on aetts, with the occasional three thrown in as an organizing principle (three daymarks between midday and midnight). I'm sure Pennick gets into this somewhere, but I haven't seen it (book isn't next to me now).

It also seems to jibe with stuff on polyphasic sleep cycles and ultradian rhythms, which I find pretty interesting.
 
 
EmberLeo
22:52 / 10.02.07
This seemed like the best place to post this offer. Fool's Sigil background reminded me that I haven't expressed it here.

I am quite fond of designing bind runes for icons, body art, signatures, whatever. I prefer that folks choose their own runes and let me know what the intended purpose of the bindrune is, but I can choose runes as well. If I choose, it'll be all Elder Futhark, but I don't mind working with Anglo-Saxon runes. I just don't know them well enough to have confidence in picking them.

--Ember--
 
  

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