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Sekhmet
13:05 / 29.04.05
Kennings can be very useful for fixing the sense of a rune in your mind. Many of them are based in myth. I'd beware of trying to apply a strict mythological correspondence, though; the meanings are somewhat open to interpretation. Hence this lovely index we have going here; every Runer has their own angle on things.

mixmage, you don't have commentaries posted on all the runes yet? Go!
 
 
Sekhmet
13:08 / 29.04.05
Oh, and grant, I think aett basically just means "eight", as in a group of eight runes.
 
 
eye landed
14:32 / 29.04.05
re: rune order

i have a book by r. w. v. elliott (runes, 1959) that claims there are five known insciptions of the elder fuÞarc as an 'alphabet': kylver, vadstena, grumpan (sorry no pic, but its almost identical to vadstena), charnay, and breza.

the most complete is kylver, a rough stone from 5th century sweden. its the only one that puts O last, and uses a number of backwards and nonstandard forms. it also has something that looks a little like a conifer twig at the very end (see the link above). its order is FUþARCGWHNIJPeZSTBEMLnDO.*

the next best is vadstena, a medallion from 6th century sweden. it is quite close to the standard newage futhark. it consists of 23 runes, and does not contain a standard D or P, though it has two runes resembling B--elliott suggests the first B is a P, so thus i will type it. its H looks like a modern N. in the picture it starts at about 9 oclock and goes counterclockwise. its order is FUþARCGWHNIJePZSTBEMLnO.*

grumpan is a medallion nearly identical to the vadstena. it is missing S and n*, and has a couple nonstandard placements. it contains two runes resembling L, but i assume the first is an imperfect T, since its in the usually robust T position. it uses a joined J. i like this one because its easiest to pronounce like a word. its order is FUþARCGWHNIJePTBEMLZOD.*

charnay is a clasp or buckle of some kind from the 6th century, found in the burgundy area. it stops at 20 runes, doubles the cross on the H, uses an asterisk for Z, and puts the P uprght (resembling a w). it also uses a joined J. its order is FUþARCGWHNIJePZSTBEM.*

breza is from a pillar near sarajevo, 6th century. its quite similar to charnay. in addition, its C is turned to look like ^, its J looks a lot like a doublecrossed H, and its P is closed like a D that doesnt meet in the middle. it contains 19 runes in the order FUþARCGWHNIJePZSTEM.*

i will juxtapose all five with spaces for analytical purposes (i hope it looks ok on your screen). this will resemble a table from elliott.*

FUþARCGWHNIJPeZSTBEMLnDO (kylver)
FUþARCGWHNIJePZSTBEMLnO (vadstena)
FUþARCGWHNIJeP . TBEMLZOD (grumpan)
FUþARCGWHNIJePZSTBEM (charnay)
FUþARCGWHNIJePZST EM (breza)

* dotted E and engma (NG) are unreliable, so i will use small e and n. if you cant see the thorn (þ), dont worry because its position is never in doubt.

the evidence suggests that the newage fuÞarc is pretty good. i think it only makes debatable placements when it is unavoidable. elliott says other futharks and futhorks dont help much, as they mix the order as well.

the first half of the fuÞarc (exactly 12, to J) is robust, which makes me think runecarvers tended to learn a bit sloppily and forget the end. barbelith suffers from the same problem, as wrecks city-zen pointed out on the first page. esoterically, it suggests that freya knows her runes well, while tyr and heimdall are a bit looser. as far as the relationship between stability and individual rune meanings, im not going to bother writing anything now.

on another topic, elliott says aettir is from aett, meaning 'sex, gender, family, generation', from eiga, 'to own, possess'. whatever.
 
 
multitude.tv
15:18 / 29.04.05
Ok, I understand why there is some debate on the final two Staves being interchangable, I personally think that Othila should go last, given the the comparison of the oldest stave inscriptions and the most solid (rigorus) reformulations of the Runic tradition. What constitutes a "more solid" reformulation? Well I would say a firm grounding in academic and practical runology mixed with a community of people working the system and varifying the claims of other workers, perhaps coupled with a conference or two. However why are the 17th and 18th staves reversed in this order, why B before T?

I would like to add that I have "worked" with botht the Anglo-Saxon extentions of the Futhorc order and the Norse reduction to 16 Staves. I find the latter to be extreemly workable... I tend to think in terms of the Elder Futhark when at home and the younger Futhark when traveling...
 
 
Sekhmet
16:18 / 29.04.05
I suspect ammonius is of the Edred Thorsson camp?

s.h.e.r.m.a.n. - I'd be interested to see that translation of "aett" corroborated; everything I've ever seen claimed it was simply Old Norse for "eight", or sometimes "group of eight" or "family of eight".

The runic inscriptions are very interesting, thanks!
 
 
Sekhmet
16:49 / 29.04.05
Upon examination, that last inscription, breza, makes me think of the Castle Aauuuuugh...
 
 
grant
18:12 / 29.04.05
So what's the last aett all about then?
 
 
Sekhmet
19:35 / 29.04.05
If each aett has a "theme" - which is a debatable issue to begin with - opinions are going to vary on what they are.

Some people refer to them colloquially as "Freya's Aett" (beginning with Fehu), "Heimdall's Aett" (beginning with Hagalaz)and "Tyr's Aett" (beginning with Tiewaz), which would seem to suggest something about their respective natures.

Considering the matter - more later!
 
 
Sekhmet
20:38 / 02.05.05
Re: aett "themes"... after some thought...

I've seen the first aett characterized in several places as "domestic", and the second aett variously as "martial" or "natural". I don't know that I've seen a thematic characterization of the third aett, though grant suggested "magic stuff"... but it's all magic stuff, innit?

I'm a little uncomfortable with assigning themes like this, as they seem like over-generalizations. Each aett is a bit of a grab-bag of influences, although they admittedly seem to follow a pattern of sorts.

After looking it over for a bit, I'm now seeing the aetts as successive levels in an initiatory quest.

We begin with Fehu. What do we have? Material possessions, the things of this world. Then comes Uruz, the challenge to our sense of security. It is the dangerous side of the material; it shakes us up. Through Uruz we realize that wealth is ephemeral, and the lure of wealth can be dangerous. We encounter Thorn next, true conflict, not merely challenge but struggle. Through this struggle we are led to Ansuz, to an awareness of and a desire for the divine, something outside the material. We communicate our new ideas; we attempt to establish contact. Thus begins Raidho, the journey of the spirit, which leads us to the enlightenment of Kensaz, knowledge and inspiration. Soon we discover the rule of Gebo; nothing comes of nothing; there must be sacrifice, there must be work for gain, there must be exchange of gifts. When our efforts pay off, we experience the joy and fulfillment that is Wunjo; we have completed the first stage of magical training. In Freya's aett we are taught the first lessons.

In Heimdall's aett we cross the bridge into more hazardous territory; the Abyss, the dark night of the soul. Hagl destroys all our preconceptions and batters down the walls of our comfort zone; our cozy nests are ruined. Nyd demands of us: what is your true will? what are you lacking? how will you get it? Isa warns that we must watch our step, for the path onwards is treacherous and slippery; we may have difficulty making progress, either through lack of care or an excess; we must concentrate, but remain self-reliant as we press forward. Finally we reach Jera, the fruition and harvest of our struggle, the far shore of the Abyss; but the wheel turns again, and we are brought face to face with death, for this was our true goal and destination. Eihwaz is the mystery of initiation, the realization of mortality and the transcending of fear; we gain access to the upper and lower worlds. In Perthro our fortune is cast, for good or ill; our wyrd, our true will, becomes known. Algiz is the warding and protection of our shields and our spirit guides, the knowledge and conversation of our Holy Guardian Angels. We now wield the power of Sig, which is sunlight and fire and the flash of lightning, the power to make our will manifest. In Heimdall's aett, the aett of the guardian between the worlds, we cross over.

In the third aett we confront the highest mysteries in their most iconic forms. Experience, mastery, interaction and synthesis of the great dualities, of masculine and feminine powers, justice and mercy, appears in the form of Tiewaz and Berkana. Ehwaz provides us a spiritual steed, union with our fetch, our valkyrie, our own Sleipnir to carry us on to higher levels of consciousness. Mannaz teaches the role of mankind in the universe, and our own role within mankind, through cooperation and confrontation; we learn the secret of humanity's essence. We learn to navigate Laguz, the ocean of the subconscious, the unconscious, the Underworld, the Past, and we plumb its depths for treasures. We become Ing, the lord, the earthly manifestation of the divine hero-king. We exist between night and day, waking and sleeping, light and darkness, in Dagaz; we walk the borders of reality and sanity. Othila brings us full circle, only on a higher round of the spiral; we take possession not only of our own but of our physical and spiritual ancestors' knowledge, wisdom, and power; our estate is established; we become lords of our own lives, and dwellers in the orlog of true will. In Tyr's aett, we become our ultimate, fully-realized selves.

* * * * *

Please note that this was written at a rush as the ideas flowed and there's probably a lot here open to critique, including the basic assumption of a progression. Even given that, I can't speak from direct experience of anything beyond maybe the second half of the first aett anyway.

I wonder whether the real reason we don't have reliable transcriptions of the second half of the Futhark might be because so few people accessed those levels and truly understood their mysteries. Many people can identify with the first aett; that's why it's so often labeled "domestic"... the higher levels are simply more difficult to grasp...
 
 
grant
21:05 / 02.05.05
My next question is: what about the five extra letters in the Anglo-Saxon rune poem?

That was a lovely answer, Sekhmet.

I tend to want things to follow that outline, I know, because it makes it easier for me to remember what happens next.
 
 
skolld
19:29 / 04.05.05
However why are the 17th and 18th staves reversed in this order, why B before T?

i'm also curious about this. not being knit-picky mind you, just curious. I guess i've always seen it Tiewaz and then Berkana as well.
 
 
grant
16:50 / 05.05.05
Fixed.
 
 
Sekhmet
17:01 / 05.05.05
what about the five extra letters in the Anglo-Saxon rune poem?

Just for the sake of not leaving this hanging - it might be worthwhile to add them onto the index... and what about the Younger Futhark?

I haven't worked with any of that yet, so I'm clueless but interested.
 
 
grant
16:21 / 10.05.05
OK, I'm not sure whether this is the place for this or not, but I'm on the second week of writing the weekly (cheesy, tabloid) rune column. Last week: Fehu, which is about networking leading to success. And all of a sudden I start collaborating with all kinds of people in various projects (musical, a few Jenny Everywhere art things, related phenomena).

This week, writing on Uruz, which is all about challenges. Turns out there's a load of credit card debt out there that I didn't run up (identity theft! it can happen to you!) and my pppppowerbook crapped out and had to be sent away for a week to be healed.

I am so not looking forward to the Hagalaz/Naudiz/Isa weeks....
 
 
Sekhmet
17:03 / 10.05.05
Huh. I've been doing rune-a-week study since mid-February and having similar experiences... In Fehu, finished paying off debts and got an influx of cash; in Raidho, plans for a big vacation trip suddenly solidified; in Hagl, found out that the hail damage on the car had totaled it, and thus would provide the money for said trip...

Take notes, keep track, it's interesting.
 
 
Sekhmet
12:27 / 11.05.05
Oh, and grant - very sorry to hear about the credit card mess and that, I hope it gets straightened out soon...
 
 
grant
15:34 / 31.05.05
Keeping track here (might as well) -- Thorn/Thurisaz week seemed to be all about offending people with my sense of humor. Ansuz didn't seem remarkable at all, though (maybe I missed the big "divine message" or whatever). Heading into Raidho now.

I think I'm going to start a separate thread for the Anglo Saxon extra five.
 
 
grant
20:42 / 06.06.05
Of course Raidho, the rider, is the week I have to do an extra two columns (Kenaz and, if I get to it, Gebo) because I'm leaving this week for a family vacation.

Hmph. Travel, travel, travel.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
08:23 / 07.06.05
grant: I reckon you may find yourself going further than you expect this week.

Heheheh.
 
 
Sekhmet
13:19 / 07.06.05
I'm finding that the connections in the first aett seem to be fairly overt, more self-evident, while the associations in the second are becoming a bit more esoteric. Definitely still present, though...
 
 
grant
19:58 / 30.06.05
Subsequent weeks, some oddly banal correspondences:

Kenaz: bad sunburn (felt like an idiot, since we should have known better), tending to sick/irritable children, recorded a half-decent song

Gebo: well, the board crashed. There's a crossroads for you. Also had a couple "when worlds collide" friends-meeting-friends experiences, and, on the "gift" tip, a dream of a future son (probably the only non-banal one -- we're working towards adopting again).

Wunjo: Hard to say. I did take some time off work to stay at home (domestic) since the baby had a fever. (Not the same illness as the Kenaz week.) And I finally told people at work that, yes, I'm planning on doing the adoption thing all over again. So there's that.
 
 
Sekhmet
02:36 / 11.07.05
Recently I've become intrigued by the fact that the Elder Futhark, as usually depicted, do not contain any horizontal lines. (The rune exhibiting the most frequent exception, sowilu, is just as frequently drawn as three diagonals, so I consider it a non-issue. Feel free to disagree.)

Twenty-four runes, all entirely composed of vertical and diagonal lines. Why?

The most obvious explanation is that it makes them easier to carve. If you're working on, say, a large stone, you can do all the strikes from above, and don't have to turn sideways and work from an awkward angle. If you're carving them into wood, all marks can be cut more or less perpendicular to the grain, both making it easier to shape the lines and reducing the chance of splitting or splintering.

Are there other explanations for this rather curious fact? All practicality aside, I'm particularly interested if anyone has more esoteric associations.
 
 
grant
14:14 / 11.07.05
I think horizontal usually refers to space and vertical to time. Like in a family tree, horizontal relations are in the same generation, while verticals are ancestors/descendants.

In my weekly business, hagalaz=not really anything exciting at all (well, a blustery evening due to Dennis being on the other side of the state, but that hardly counts for anything.) Naudhiz=there do seem to be a lot of bills coming due....
 
 
Sekhmet
14:44 / 20.07.05
I just found another version of the three-aett rune journey at Wayland Skallagrimsson's site, Uppsala. This is probably where I got the idea to begin with, in all honesty, though I don't remember having looked at it before.

Freya's Aett
The first aett is named for Freya, after the sound of the first rune, f. This is the road of knowledge and power. Feh is the mastery of personal power and knowledge of its control, or right stewardship. This leads the athling to knowledge of and mastery over the power of the aurochs, in ur, and self-knowledge that results from the welling up of this rune within the athling. This raw power leads easily enough, via the path of unbalance, to the chaos and destruction of the thurse, which is the blind unknowing power of destruction. This necessitates the aid of ansuz, the powers (or Powers) of knowledge and creation that are the Aesir and especially Odin. Contact with the Odinic nature stimulates, either through a sympathetic upwelling of that nature from within or by example, that nature in the athling. This necessitates travel, journeying, learning and experiencing the world, as Odin is the greatest of travellers. This is the rune Raidho, which is journey, an expenditure of power angainst the indifferent or hostile powers of the external world in search of knowledge, kensaz. The revelation the torch brings teaches the necessity of sacrifice, the casting away of one's own power in one form or another. And this leads to Wunjo, which is a whole new form of knowledge and power; the knowledge of joy, the power of a feather falling through the air. The first road indicates the quest of the athling for knowledge and power, from mastery of its external and internal forms, to contact with and changing by the divine forces and the knowledge and power they have to offer, to the quest on the road and the true revelation it gives, to the casting aside at last of the power the athling has so struggled for, only to gain even more in return.

Hagl's Aett
This aett, too, is named for the first rune sound. It is possible there once was a god named Hagl, or something similar, but if this is so, all knowledge of him is lost. This is the road of the revelation of orlog, of what has gone before. It is a deeper seeking of knowledge (and the power knowledge brings) than that gained by the first row. Indeed, each rune of the second row can be seen to contain in itself all the runes of the first, in different combinations of importance and order. The first rune of this road reflects the lessons that ur, thorn, raidho, and gebo all gave in combination: hardship. The second rune of this row reflects in a way the lessons of feh, ansuz, kensaz, and wunjo. This initial pair is the revelation of the orlog of the first road. It is by hardship that the athling finds the will to rise to meet his circumstances, and to gain the rewards therefrom. Additionally hagl is the revelation of the orlog of the weather (or of course of any large system beyond the scope or control of the athling, where harm is to be found). And nyd is the revelation of the orlog of the athling himself (or herself). It is the revelation of who the athling is within, what the athling has made him- or herself. If the athling has the right knowledge and power, the right learning, the "Right Stuff", his orlog will be that of the need-fire. The next rune, isa, reveals the orlog of expenditure of effort. After the struggle of the first runes one is balanced atop the ice, still and serene or one falls beneath it, still in the sense of stilled, unable to go further. It is also a rune of the revelation of the orlog of the small, for it is attention to small details both external and internal that one maintains balance on ice. Jera is the revelation of the seed, the orlog of the crops. Here the athling learns a lesson that is both very simple to state and very difficult to really put into practice: plant the seeds that are desired. Do not plant the seeds that are not desired. When the athling has gone through the refinements of will, control, and discipline these first runes call for he is ready for the revelation of the next rune, the apprehension of the runes as a whole, the revelation of the orlog of the entirely unknown. When the athling has learned how to obtain this revelation, he is able to use the revelation of perthro, which is revelation of that which is hidden by means of the revelations of eihwaz. This contact with the worlds of the unknown readies the athling for the rune algiz, the rune of the revelation of the orlog of one's own environment, both physically and metaphysically. This leads to sig, the revelation of orlog in conflict, which was the basis for the ancient and medieval "trial by combat" wherein victory showed the will of Odin.

Tyr's Aett
Named for the first rune of the row, this is the road of conflict. Each of the runes of this row can be seen as containing each of the runes of the second, in different combinations. Tyr is the mystery of the skills of conflict, both in the martial sense and the social / legal one. This leads to the rune berkana, which is the resolution of conflict. Resolving conflict leads to conflict's opposite, which is ehwaz, a partnership. As discussed above, ehwaz leads to mannaz, which can be seen as the idealized self, the whole self, linked with the gods, which is also an anti-conflict mystery. And then on the other hand, it is conflict that returns man, as stated in the rune poem, to the dust. Integration with the worlds outside and above the self leads to laguz, the road as conflict, because it is only such a whole person that can fearlessly conquer the sea. Ing is a rune that resolves conflict in many ways. Weapons or conflict of any kind were not allowed in Nerthus' ritual, nor in Frey's temple. But Ing was also a hero, a warrior, and this is also the mystery of focused power, which is a great resolver of conflict as well, but in a different way. Dagaz is the ultimate resoution of conflict, in the conceptual sense, and this road of conflict leads in the end to odal, inheritance.
 
 
grant
16:15 / 20.07.05
Interesting ideas on that last aett as conflict/resolution.

I'm wondering why "orlog" is being used here instead of some more familiar word like "road" or "system" or something. What's with that word?

Isa week for me has been about getting things working -- home net connection crapped out, had to fix it. Got a telescope working last night & saw Jupiter's moons (it's an 8" Dobsonian reflector, very nice piece of equipment, on extended loan), and now, I parked my car at work... and the shifter moves, but the car is stuck in reverse.

Hmph.
 
 
grant
15:52 / 22.07.05
Fucking isa unmoving credit blot from uruz week is still out there, weighing me down, making new car buying difficult. (Big change, not a good time for...). But I did it anyway. Thus we move to jera....
 
 
grant
16:15 / 26.07.05
Fucking jera week is seeing women at work losing male relatives. One woman's son shot randomly on the highway, another's husband's liver and kidneys have just shut down (cancer - going into hospice now). Another co-worker's back on the job for the first time since his mother died two weeks ago. It's like a mist in the office.
 
 
grant
14:00 / 08.08.05
Not sure if anything happened in eihwaz or not... the Thursday before the Friday when I normally (but didn't) write the weekly column pertho, there started to be this flood of reunions over the phone & in person. At least three, maybe as many as six long-lost friends/aquaintances called on the phone out of the blue or turned up at funerals (not entirely out of the blue). Eerie.

[Editing to add...]
Algiz
-- can't quite put my finger on anything.
Sowilo/Sowulu -- lots of external stress... started moonlighting in the mornings, got told to shape up at the day job (fruits of cyberslacking, where have you been hiding until now?), and now Hurricane Katrina is en route, sort of out of the blue. And me not knowing where all my shutters are (and more importantly, how to put all of them up) in the new house. I think these are all slapdowns for overreaching/overbooking/overstretching on some level, but am not 100% positive this is the case.
 
 
grant
16:59 / 18.08.05
Found more on aettr -- apparently, they were units of society, something between a gang and a clan. Everyone owned their own land, but they all worked together to maintain order, defend rights, avenge wrongs.
 
 
grant
15:47 / 11.10.05
Finishing up the final "Dagaz" column right now, although technically it's next week. This is (suitably enough, given the overlap) the Othila week for me.

Notes: Things got weird around mannaz: I did like three columns in a row, but also seemed to stack things up in my home life and knock 'em back down, and things have felt sort of out of order -- like I'm settling into a new routine that's not a routine at all. The ID theft credit smear went away during this period, too, at long last.

Probably due to stress from that (and working an extra, morning job), my heart started bugging me during logr (healing and mystery?), ramped up during inguz (the man on the waters) and I'm seeing a couple doctors -- just.in.case -- during othila (inheritance and, um, death). Badumbadum. Also, othila started with me in an office filling out a home equity loan, which clicked. We shall see what dagaz brings.....
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
19:48 / 11.10.05
So you're sticking with Dagaz as the final rune? Interesting...
 
 
grant
20:39 / 11.10.05
Well, I originally set up the columns based on the index here, which has dagaz at the end. It does seem like it could go either way, which means (to me) that it's one of those things it takes a Act of Will to decide. It's a purely arbitrary "I say it, therefore it is so" thing, which might even be what the intention of the rune poems/engravings was, originally. It might be an intentional ambiguity, and I'm choosing to believe that is so.

So, I like the idea of ending with an hourglass on its side.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
20:56 / 11.10.05
I ask because it is disputed (the ubiquitous Edred gives Othala as the final rune, for one), but the order here is the one I personally prefer. Although it's not the order I originally learned when I was starting out, it just feels right now to end with Day. When I made my new set of runes I did Dagaz last.
 
 
EmberLeo
22:06 / 07.08.06
It is possible there once was a god named Hagl, or something similar, but if this is so, all knowledge of him is lost.

I have understood Hagal to be Hella. I'm basing that on a song written by a scholar and priestess I highly respect, but I don't know what she bases it on. I guess I could ask her...

--Ember--
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
22:31 / 07.08.06
I know Freya Aswynn identifies Haglaz (Hagl) with Hela.
 
  

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