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False Images Of Oz (in British advertising and culture)

 
  

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Baobab Branches and Plastic
10:04 / 25.02.06
Of course.

But we're talking about False Images of Oz (in British advertising and culture aren't we.

Or I could mistaking the topic for NOW as opposed to say 200 years ago.

I think that saying the problems of Australia are based on Brits conceptions of Oz (viz. ads and telly) are a few prawns short of barbie. At best these prawns are garnishes that distract from what is really at steak in Australia: a two table culture that isn't providing enough napkins.
 
 
Baobab Branches and Plastic
10:10 / 25.02.06
Why are these false images bad? Is it really not obvious? Maybe you should ask, I don't know, some evil Christian-eating Jews- they were pretty prominent in Europe for a long time. Or what about those Africans who god didn't give the divine spark to, so it's okay to hunt them like game? Of course, we don't hold such views anymore, but you could always ask those crazy Muslims? Stockpile of bombs in every mosque, doncha know...

yeah man under every bar in London is an Aussie with cork hat that he's itching to use. Its terrible to think of all those poor members of Australian intelligensia who get lumped with all the other football watching bus tour hooligans. I don't think that Australian minorities get oppressed in the UK because they don't fit the Australian stereotype, more likely the opposite.
 
 
trouble at bill
20:22 / 09.09.06
*bump*

Might Steve Irvin's recent death, and the publicity surrounding it, tie into this discussion at all?
 
 
All Acting Regiment
22:05 / 09.09.06
I've heard many people say he represents a cartoon-like and conservative image of an Australian man, and that he was buddies with Howard. Is this true, (w)Ozmen?
 
 
ORA ORA ORA ORAAAA!!
05:04 / 10.09.06
I'm personally very sorry that he's dead, and that his wife and child(ren?) will have to go on without him, but I also think that the caricature of an Australian he presented to the world was complete bollocks and frankly not helpful to us, as a country, trying to look like (because we're not) modern, cosmopolitan citizens of the world.

If he's an accurate iconographic representation of anyone, it'd be compassionate conservative conservationists, sucker-punching animals, because they love them. It's for their own good.

I don't like his methods. I appreciate that he donated a large amount of his own time and money to saving Australian environments which would, perhaps, have disappeared without him, but I'd rather he took a little more... Attenborough-ian approach to those he worked with.

Anyway, that's to provide background, of a sort. The accent and dress style he had are very uncommon (may, in fact, have just become extinct). But it does hark back to a mythical time, when men were men, and women were camera crew, or drivers, or whatever, which I think is a damaging model of manhood for society at large. The fact that Steve and Mick "crocodile" Dundee are the two most famous examples, internationally (ok, in the US, I'm not sure about elsewhere - maybe Toadfish is more popular in the UK), of what an Australian man is like seems like a bad idea.

I can't really grapple this question, to be honest. It seems obvious to me that he's a ridiculous stereotype, and that that alone qualifies him to be rejected. I mean, most Australian men are pretty much like most other western men. Our media diets and expectations are very little informed by a particularly Australian sensibility. There really isn't an "Australian Man". There's some kind of vague, unformed digger pride, etc, but there's also (from my personal point of view/experience) a very clear understanding that we, as a culture, can't continue to exclude non-white people.

All our grand old archetypes are white (maybe there's one Indigenous Australian GOA, but they figure very little in our self-image, unfortunately), but it's becoming harder to ignore the fact that an enormous percentage of our population isn't, in fact, white.

Irwin on Howard: "In front of us right now is the greatest leader Australia has ever had and the greatest leader in the world," (quote because I'm not sure the link'll work)

I suppose it's fitting, because they're both caricatures of various historical periods (Howard from the 50's, Irwin from a semi-mythological pioneer/bushwhacker past which spans decades, if not more than a century).

I really have no idea where I'm going with this, so I'll leave it here. Hopefully there's something useful there. Maybe.
 
 
Olulabelle
10:43 / 11.09.06
I think that Steve Irwin was foremost 'celebrity', and secondly 'Australian man'. I think people who identify (or are identified) as celebrity are less likely to be seen to be representative of their country than people who happen to be in the public eye, like sportspeople or politicians. Even the characters actors play are more likely to be projecting the accepted stereotype than a distinct celebrity, which is what I think Steve Irwin was.
 
  

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