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1) Is it your implication that I, in my previous posts, am boxing all of Islam into an extremist catagory? (I think I usually try to acknowledge that the violence is not representative of Islam as a whole, but if I haven't made it clear before, I hope I have now.)
Ah, no, not my intention at all. Rather, that you are boxing Islam as "the religion with the extremists". You've qualified this now by limiting the religions under examination to monotheistic religions, and that the extremism is most public in Islam rather than unique to it. That creates a lot of space, however - possibly almost to the point where it ceases to be a useful identifier. I'd certainly say that militant Islam is more public, at least to somebody relying on the Western media, because militant Islam is _news_ - it has positioned itself as an opponent of the West, and does showy things like kidnap and behead Americans. Having said which, of course, there are plenty of secular reasons why that is happening.
As a comparison: I mentioned Rwanda earlier, but how about the IRA? A majority catholic organisation that blows stuff up - does that make it an example of extremist Roman Catholicism?
Publicity is also an issue as it refers to how (and that) things are recorded, and also the opportunities available for people to achieve their political/religious aims. So, a Palestinian civilian shooting an Israeli soldier is a distinct type of action from an Israeli soldier shooting a Palestinian civilian, for example, because one has the legitimating force of a military organisation and ultimately a civil authority behind it. It is much harder, among other things, to read an Israeli soldier shooting a Palestinian civilian as in any way other than a secular act of law enforcement/state control. Likewise, I'd suggest, Iraqi civilians killed by US forces are far easier to ascribe to a secular cause than the killing of US forces by Iraqis/Syrians/whoever - as such, you can just sort of whack in extremist Islam as a quasi-tactical motivation.
So, that. If we're looking specifically at these demonstrations, then we probably have to try to compare them in intensity, spread and casualties to other demonstrations inspired at base by religious fervour, and then try to find a control group of another monotheistic religion of a similar size the devotees of which have a similar standard of living, access to information and so on. That's a big problem, because there kind of isn't one - Your best bet is Christianity. If a newspaper had gone out specifically to break one of the key tenets of Christianity, and a group of people had then gone on tour with this and falsified evidence to this effect... well, I'm not suer what would happen. There are an awful lot of people under the umbrella of Christianity. George Carey talked about people in the west, and specifically the secular west, not really understanding what it is to live in a religious state, either civically or personally, and I think that's a fair point.
So, there's that. There is also the question of whether many of these demonstrations are in fact politically motivated and possibly also politically organised, assembled and funded. |
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