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Somebody please, please call... Nextwave!

 
  

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H3ct0r L1m4
23:35 / 27.01.06
yeah, Bard's right. I won't be that enthusiastic, but that's the spirit. as other ave mentioned, it would sit so well eith a comeback of SKRULL KILL KREW. if Marvel does more goofy stuff in this vein it'll look much more interesting than 'übbertight DCU' to me, as sometimes it's just good to sit back and enjoy a good laugh without having to worry about it looking Important and ultracool. whcih NEXTWAVE looks anyway.
 
 
Krug
08:33 / 28.01.06
I had a basic concept of a post while reading this thread but saw doyoufeelloved's post and agree with everything.

The only thing I kept thinking in some of the stinky bits was "if Grant Morrison had written this it would have been a lot funnier. And would have manage to be a really clever satire."

There was a bizarre book about a dsyfunctional superhero team that was mental and hilarious but on occasion was also alternating with moments of horror and heartbreak with consistent cleverness.

It was called Doom Patrol. I'd rather read that again.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
20:31 / 28.01.06
Quit living in the fucking past.

This comic felt like Ellis' redemption, really. We forgive you for all those terrible grim black and white Avatar horrorporn comics, Warren!

May it run and run.
 
 
This Sunday
22:11 / 28.01.06
This is being criticized as not standing up to Morrison's 'Doom Patrol'? Really wasn't expecting that.
There's no serious deep emotional tragedy impact here, just well, impact(s). There's emotion, sure, but it's all the yay! Bam! Smash! Giant underpants and crap codenames go BOOM! As it should be.
Fun is fun, yes. And while this wasn't the best thing ever, true, I'll give it the two issues Ellis suggested, since it's just a two issue arc. None of the jokes failed to at least elicit a grin and some had me laughing out loud. Has Aaron 'X-51' Stack been embracing his robotyness, lately, or is that just starting with Ellis? Not that pre-existence is really important to any of this.

We need more gleeful destruction in our fictions, right now. Everything, comics and elsewhere, is just getting a bit too uberserious and stressed.
 
 
Bard: One-Man Humaton Hoedown
02:48 / 29.01.06
Google "Fin Fang Foom". Seriously. You'll laugh, you'll cry, you'll wonder why a fucking superpowered Chinese dragon in purple underpants hasn't been satired earlier.

Fin Fang Foom is Gozilla of the Marvel Universe. He even got constantly teamed up on by superheroes, and mind controlled by the Mandarin.

Also...The Captain. Love the origin story Ellis describes in one of the articles. "Every single generic Captain-superhero. He changed codenames every few weeks."

Its the research that makes this truly amusing.
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
03:08 / 30.01.06
Why is it I see as this book as the kind of comic Steve Gerber woudl have written in the 70's if they would have let him?

It's a nice new team book using a bunch of characters Marvel hasn't noticed enough to kill in some big event, and it worked. I don't see it as satire, really, because it read more like the Giffen/DeMatties approach of taking parts of it seriously and parts of it played for laughs.

If it keeps the light tone and decent laugh lines, I'll stick with it, but Ellis does tend to lose interest in things he's writing, and this book will need the fast pace and quick flow of ideas to keep from just becoming a "Great Lakes Avengers" style of comic.
 
 
This Sunday
04:28 / 30.01.06
The only bit that strikes me as satire is the HATE antiterrorist stuff. It's cartooned to make a point. The rest of it? Some is parody, a lot is not even cartooning it into funny but just pointing things out for what they already were.
 
 
FinderWolf
13:22 / 30.01.06
>> Has Aaron 'X-51' Stack been embracing his robotyness, lately, or is that just starting with Ellis?

I think that's just new with Ellis. I don't think anyone's even used Machine Man for quite a long time, at least several years.

Also, one of the coolest uses of Fin Fang Foom was when Walt Simonson made him/revealed him to be the World Seprent of Norse mythology at the end of his much-lauded THOR run, and Thor and ol' purple underpants had it out. (Simonson may not have given FFF the purple underpants in that issue, not sure)
 
 
This Sunday
13:57 / 30.01.06
What was lovely was 'Conspiracy', wherein someone had the daunting task of doing underpants/no-underpants in one take. Sorta like Namor in 'Marvels', but with giant misshapen monsters on an island.
Did FFF have the purple shorts in that Imagey early nineties book? The one with the nigh-naked spindly woman on the cover and all the scratchy line-art? Something '... Darkness' or other.
And, can I say how much I love the response this is getting from some fanboys? The angry, bitter, this book insulted and attacked me and made sexual advances on my grandparents while damning mothers everywhere... this stuff just makes the book all that more worthwhile.
 
 
Bard: One-Man Humaton Hoedown
16:24 / 30.01.06
Finder, apparently the Midgard Serpent was only POSING as FFF. Becuase...y'know...THAT makes sense. I always credited Jormungr with having better fashion sense.

Daytripper, FFF ALWAYS had purple underwear. Seriously, Google "Fin Fang Foom". You will be frightened by how much attention this guy gets.
 
 
FinderWolf
16:56 / 30.01.06
You mean attention like this?

A guy wrote a poem about FFF and read it an open-mic thing somewere, and listed the poem on his site. A highlight:

My slumber of 1,000 years
is THROUGH
There is nothing mankind can do
Beware the fury
of
FIN FANG FOOM

I will smash
I will crush
I will eat this whole country
I am unstoppable
So says the ancient and strong
FIN FANG FOOM

Uh......rrrrright. Apparently FFF used to talk a lot and have a distinctly Dr. Doom vibe to his speech patterns.

and these bits of info:

On the island-nation of Formosa, Chan Liu Chow heard rumors of an invasion of his homeland by Communist Chinese forces. From his studies of ancient legends, Chan heard of the legend of the dragon Fin Fang Foom. Chan headed to China to the site of the crypt where the dragon slumbered. Using a special herb, Chan roused the monster from his sleep, then lured the dragon towards a battalion of armed troops and ships of the Red Chinese invasion force. Fin Fang Foom's rampage ended the threat of an invasion as he destroyed the army's weapons. Chan lured the dragon back to the crypt and used another herb which caused the dragon to once again fall asleep.

Fin Fang Foom (or else another monster that resembled him) was later seen among a group of monsters being held in the Collector's subterranean museum beneath the surface of Canada. The monsters escaped captivity during the Collector's battle with the Mole Man, and some of the monsters attacked New York City, but were fought off by an alliance of the Thing, the Hulk, Giant-Man, and the Beast. The defeated monsters were later dispatched into the Negative Zone.

The real Fin Fang Foom was revived by Dr. Vault and joined forces with IT the Living Colossus to battle an invasion of gargoyles from Stonus Five (see Gorgolla).

Fin Fang Foom and the dragon aliens were manipulated by Iron Man's nemesis, The Mandarin, to attack the human race, but later all the dragons turned against The Mandarin. It took the combined efforts of Iron Man and The Mandarin to defeat Fin Fang Foom and the dragons; all were apparently disintegrated.

Demonstrated Powers: Fin Fang Foom had great strength and could destroy buildings and military vehicles. Fin Fang Foom was intelligent and could speak. In later appearances, Fin Fang Foom was shown using his wings for flight and breathing fire from his mouth.

In Iron Man # 272, it was revealed that Fin Fang Foom was one of the survivors of a spacecraft which crashlanded on Earth centuries ago (see Axon-Karr). The spacecraft was from a race of dragon-like aliens called the Makluans from the Andromeda galaxy. Most of the Makluan survivors took on human form in China (the dragons could alter their size and shape, which could explain why Fin Fang Foom's size changed so much in his history). The Makluan technology from the wreckage was used by Iron Man's nemesis The Mandarin in Tales of Suspense # 62.

Status: Alien Dragon
Planet of Origin: Kakaranathara/Andromeda Galaxy (see comment)

Comment: In Iron Man # 263, it was revealed that “Fin Fang Foom” is a crude translation of a long and complex name which means “He whose limbs shatter mountains and whose back scrapes the sun”.
 
 
The Falcon
17:51 / 30.01.06
Fin Fang Foom is also the moniker of a not bad stoner-rock band, eh?
 
 
FinderWolf
19:35 / 30.01.06
I want to see a Fin Fang Foom vs. M.O.D.O.K. throwdown in the pages of Nextwave.
 
 
doyoufeelloved
19:43 / 30.01.06
Yeah, I will say, if M.O.D.O.K. does not appear in NEXTWAVE's first year, I'm going to have to write Ellis a sternly-worded letter.
 
 
Bard: One-Man Humaton Hoedown
20:26 / 30.01.06
Elsa Bloodstone vs. M.O.D.O.K.!

I can only imagine the sort of jokes Ellis would wrangle out of Barbelith's favourite big-headed supervillain.
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
00:16 / 31.01.06
bad signal
WE

Just a quick note to mention that, according to a press
release
I saw today, NEXTWAVE #1 burned through
its overprint during the weekend, and is officially
unavailable for reorder now -- Diamond are all out.

There are no plans to reprint it, so if your store didn't
get the last available copies, you're going to need to
check out khepri.com, silverbulletcomics.com,
page45.co.uk, etc etc.

As you all know, comics stores always always order
less of #2 than they do of #1. And since we now know
that there weren't enough copies of #1 to go around,
you might want to send the following to your retailer
before Feb 2 if you want a copy:

NEXTWAVE #2 - order code DEC052025

-- W
 
 
matsya
01:29 / 31.01.06
I remember first seeing FFF in an issue of CRAZY magazine (Marvel's answer to MAD and CRACKED), where they'd put their own dialogue to the comic, MST3K-style. Years later I found a 2nd-hand copy of a comic featuring IT, the LIVING COLOSSUS where he and FFF went smackdown and it was only then that I realised that the CRAZY thing was meant as a joke.

There was a FFF toy released as part of the Iron Man vs. Dragons line of the Iron Man action figure line. Sadly they left the undies off of that one.
 
 
Bard: One-Man Humaton Hoedown
02:45 / 31.01.06
Matsya, I didn't see your last sentence till AFTER I'd seen the toy. And that was my first response: Where are his goddamned purple underpants? He's not Fin Fang Foom without purple underpants!
 
 
DaveBCooper
07:47 / 31.01.06
Quite enjoyed this, though it was a bit fragmented – the page of Anger doing the Spider Jerusalem schtick didn’t really link that much with the rest of the story, for example, but it was fun enough. I’ll wait for the trades for the resk of it, I think.

However, isn’t this really just Team America with superheroes instead of puppets? To my mind, it’s not as inventive and crazy as some people seem to find it, but I’m probably just a killjoycore
 
 
FinderWolf
14:02 / 31.01.06
Those toys are fantastic.
 
 
Bard: One-Man Humaton Hoedown
00:01 / 01.02.06
Preview for issue 2 is up here and I have only one thing to say:

"FIN FANG FOOM PUT YOU IN HIS PANTS!"-Fin Fang Foom, NextWave #2

Also, it explains why giant monsters eat people. It is humorous.
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
11:19 / 01.02.06
yes, General Anger.

also: Ellis said #2 is complete but has been pushed back a bit so Marvel can issue a Director's Cut of #1.
 
 
matsya
23:23 / 01.02.06
I liked the why they eat humans bit, but the "I put you in my PANTS" "NOOOOOOOOOOO" bit was a little too 'comedy GOLD' if you know what I mean. I would have gone for a "Like FUCK you will" (with fuck replaced by skulls of course) reply from Tabby, but that's just me. Also, the kicking out of spines thing is a bit old and done to death, especially by warren... I'm cooling off a little now.
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
13:58 / 01.03.06
through BAD SIGNAL Ellis told #02 is out this week.
 
 
FinderWolf
17:14 / 01.03.06
So I guess that Director's Cut didn't happen...or will happen after #2's debut.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
17:51 / 01.03.06
SPOILERS (Trust Me)










NEXTWAVE: THIS IS WHAT THEY WANT

Fucking yes.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
04:02 / 02.03.06
Indeed. I secretly wish to marry X-51 and have dirty robot sex.

Ahem.

Ah, spoilers:



























The one page Dirk Anger thing is the weirdest bit in the book. Really. & Boom-Boom on last minute rescues: "The pants might have been less painful." The poptomic Ellis bad-ass-kicking, and I wish I could leap off things/buildings/giant dragons without gravity making me splatter like a ripe orange. Monica actually uses her powers - I like Immonen's depiction of her mid-energy-form, suspended in an energy stream. I remember owning Captain Marvel #1 at one point, and I like Monica a lot.

But Aaron Stack stacks the deck, babies.

Did anyone get the weird robot interlude? Was that supposed to be of the other fifty X-robots?
 
 
FinderWolf
06:26 / 02.03.06
yes, it was a day in the life of one of the other X-series robots. Though not sure if that robot guy's emotional state was supposed to be connected in some way to what was happening to our robot hero at the time...I'll have to re-read, I really only read it very rapidly on the subway (this comic always makes me laugh & giggle on the subway).

>> I would have gone for a "Like FUCK you will" (with fuck replaced by skulls of course) reply from Tabby, but that's just me.

This should have been in there.
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
13:48 / 02.03.06
Foom's reaction to vomiting out his heart was really sad. I kind of felt bad for the old pathetic lug.
 
 
Axolotl
19:22 / 02.03.06
Keith: So did I, to the extent that it almost ruined the comedy vibe for me. Instead of enjoying the 'splodey, kicky goodness, I felt bad and wanted to invite FFF round for tea and sympathy. It's not his fault H.AT.E dug him up and set him off on a big rampage.
Papers: I think Immonen's art was excellent at evoking just how cool it would be able to jump off buildings and the like. Some his action scenes seemed to really leap off the page; he's really excelling here.
 
 
Bard: One-Man Humaton Hoedown
20:10 / 02.03.06
I'm still waiting for my comic store to get this in. They say they'll have it NEXT week. I am not amused, dammit. I want to see Elsa Bloodstone vs. the Broccoli Men!
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
00:29 / 03.03.06
from yesterday's BAD SIGNAL:

I got sent a few links to NEXTWAVE 2
reviews last night -- I don't usually
read reviews, but I was in a good
mood and ready to be amused. And God
knows I was. The older fanmen seem to
have an insurmountable distrust of
the book. "It's funny, BUT..." Is he
laughing at us? Is he laughing at
our treasured D-list characters? I
think he's laughing at someone, and
I don't like it, no sir. A few people
have gotten that I'm sometimes
laughing at myself, and mostly just
laughing. Plainly, there are too
many writers just laying in wait to
grimly and fin-headedly rape these
people's childhoods when they're
not paying attention.

As a smart man said, it's just a ride.
 
 
The Falcon
14:12 / 05.03.06
so, apparently that's live chicks going into the blender and intravenous feed. No wonder he's having a breakdown.
 
 
matsya
20:27 / 05.03.06
Well I fuckin' loved it. Even willing to forgive the inevitable "let's go to work" line. It's just a melange of wonderful what-i-deep-down-love-about-superheroes stuff that I'm giggling all the way. Random grab-bag of lovely stuff (SPOILERS OF COURSE):






































Elsa saying "'splode!" and the Captain saying "Kick!" The chicks in the blender (only got that the second time 'round)! The tears of Fin Fang Foom! "He's not my robot." "Well, the robot who hangs around us and keeps staring at my chest." "What did you learn from the Avengers apart from stay away from spooky magic ladies who think that a robot made them pregnant?" The oily tears of the robot priest! Next Wave: THIS IS WHAT THEY WANT? **** yeah. (what's the bbcode to make the swearys go all skulls and stuff?)
 
 
FinderWolf
22:34 / 13.03.06
bad joke this ish: the bit about 'this dialogue is coming from this ship, which is bigger inside than outside.' Whah? We in comics see a word balloon coming from a ship or Very Large Thing In The Air all the time; I don't even get the joke here other than pointing out the visual convention. As for the ship being like the TARDIS, whoop dee doo, it looks pretty huge on the outside anyway.

Baby chicks = awesome. And it looks like one gets away, fluttering about on the stand there!

Swiss Army Knife Machine Man!! And Ellis gets to use the word "mek" again. I did like the bit about the natural physical consequence of flying superheros holding a non-flying hero as they fly around speedily.

Sad Fin Fang Foom. Sooo sad.
 
  

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