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Somebody please, please call... Nextwave!

 
  

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Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
03:26 / 29.06.06
More once I've read the whole thing, but I am filled with an almost irresistable urge to write Nextwave slash fiction starring the Captain and Machine Man. Machine Man has attachments.

In other words: Nextwave is the new crack.
 
 
LDones
11:50 / 29.06.06
Love that sexy close-up on the face of Machine Man Triumphant.

Nextwave is love. I hope this book keeps on for a long time.
 
 
Axolotl
19:15 / 29.06.06
Once again I liked this issue. Plenty of kicking and exploding, Dirk Anger being one crazy mamajama and general goodness. It's not really that challenging but it's good fun, and sometimes that's enough in a comic.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
04:39 / 17.08.06
NEXTWAVE #7 GO!


(SPOILERS, YO)


















































Mindless Ones. Skateboards. Mindless Ones on skateboards. Monica connects with street level law enforcement and suddenly Our Heroes seem far less antisocial than before. Aaron is still my fictional dirty touchy robot of doom. The Captain gets to do more of his routine regarding being every Captain ever. Captain Kerosene!

The tragedy of Dirk Anger: he touches himself while watching -you- on televison. You know it, I know it, I have to go take a shower now.

Five bucks says that H.A.T.E., Beyond Corp, and the old S.I.L.E.N.T. have ties to Midas International. Because this issue made me think of Marvel Boy like nothing else.

I want some Human Resources broccoli men of mine own, please and thank you.
 
 
Mario
11:00 / 17.08.06
I shouldn't like Nextwave. It's a fairly blatant satire on superheroes, and completely without character development or deeper meaning.

But "they explode! My life has new meaning!"

And the changing expressions on Dirk's face during his scene...

Ima read Nextwave!
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
15:44 / 17.08.06
The X-Men come back more'n Jesus!

The covers are getting a bit ... monotone ... for my tastes. I'd like some more variety or the chance for Immonen to play up different styles. Instead, we get a lot of the same team shot with slightly different contexts.
 
 
LDones
04:03 / 18.08.06
I would not argue with anyone who called Nextwave trash.

That said, if all the world's trash-o-tainment were half so joyful as Nextwave, puppies might rain from the sky, heal the sick, and bring smiles to faces of the headless.

Nextwave is Ellis in a good mood, uninterested in loathing himself or his medium of choice. I can, and will, gladly buy that.
 
 
Mario
10:49 / 18.08.06
I wouldn't call it trash. I'd call it fluff. Cotton candy comics without "nutrional" value.

OTOH, given the overwhelmingly angsty menu DC & Marvel seems bent on serving up, I'm in the mood for cotton candy.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
16:23 / 18.08.06
Nextwave succeeds at something quite rare these days. It's popcorn, sure, it's fluff. But, it takes all the silly, stupid ideas and says "Hey, these are silly and stupid," but then proceeds to have a hell of a lot of fun with them without feeling the need to rationalize them -or- wallow in nostalgia over them.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
19:55 / 18.08.06
Also, I can't believe some of this dialogue is getting out there in a 'mainstream' Marvel comic. I mean, the Captain America stuff is one thing, but "They shot their muck all over meee!" "Like that's never happened before." is something else...
 
 
FinderWolf
18:40 / 17.10.06
'FINAL ISSUE'? Is this a sick joke? I fear not... did they seriously cancel this title? I knew it was 'on the bubble', but come on, Marvel, you couldn't get behind this when Spider-Girl is getting its fourth relaunch?? (I know it all comes down to $$, but still....)

here is what shocked my mind and rocked my system and led to the above paragraph: (and Barbe-mods, never fear that my days of cutting & pasting pointlessly have returned; I feel this qualifies as valid and newsworthy, it's small, and it seems like linking to the list of 60 Marvel solicitations would be sort of silly.)

solicits for #12:
>> NEXTWAVE: AGENTS OF H.A.T.E. #12
Written by WARREN ELLIS
Pencils and Cover by
STUART IMMONEN
To all those who HAVEN’T been buying NEXTWAVE–
Thanks a lot, jerks! This is the last issue! To all those who HAVE been buying NEXTWAVE– YOU RULE!! Do not miss this pulse-pounding conclusion to the greatest work of western literature EVER! Hamlet? Horrible. War and Peace? What-a-joke! The Great Gatsby? The Great Lame-by, maybe. Those works are going to be moved to the Bad Section of your local bookstores after this issue comes out. Don't miss this or you won’t know what your children’s children are reading in school.
32 PGS./Parental Advisory …$2.99
 
 
Spyder Todd 2008
18:57 / 17.10.06
Actually, I thought Nextwave was always billed as a 12 issue series.
 
 
Triplets
19:05 / 17.10.06
Cotton candy comics without "nutrional" value.

Mm. Delicious nutrions.
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
19:23 / 17.10.06
Warren Ellis:

Okay. I just this second got the go-ahead from Nick Lowe to talk about this. So here we go:

Sales on the singles are okay, if not great. Sales on the first collection have apparently been terrific.

We were on such a roll with NEXTWAVE that I was actually into the idea of doing a second year, which is highly unusual for me and work-for-hire properties. So Marvel sat down and looked at the numbers, as they wanted to do a second year too.

What they found was that, at our current sales levels, they could afford for me to write it, but not for Stuart to draw it. Stuart, as a Marvel-exclusive artist, commands a fee commensurate with his astonishing talent. I’m WFH-exclusive too, but they just send me whisky and loose women and I’m fine. So, basically, I could continue to write NEXTWAVE, but we’d need to find another artist. This, to me, was just wrong. I mean, Stuart would obviously be given a far better job that had actual readers attached to it, but it still seemed a bit like the numbers were conspiring to fire him for doing his job too well. Everyone at Marvel pitched in to try and make it work, but the numbers were just against us.

So NEXTWAVE #12 will be the final issue of the ongoing series.

(To clear up a common misconception: NEXTWAVE was always pitched as an ongoing series. However, my original intent was to do 12 and then pass it on to someone else. This got garbled, somewhere down the chain of communication, and so the first issue or two got solicited as “part xxx of 12?.)

However. The numbers game changes when you posit things in terms of limited series.

NEXTWAVE #12 will be the last issue of the ongoing series: but there will be more NEXTWAVE to come, presented as a sequence of limited series.

This was all worked out some months ago, so I had plenty of time to work the final NEXTWAVE sequence into a conclusion of sorts. #11 even features a twelve-page spread that you’ll have to buy six copies of the comic to assemble into its full splendour. Everyone wishes I’d thought of that eight or nine months ago.

That was the news. Return to your duties.

– W
 
 
Spyder Todd 2008
20:35 / 17.10.06
11 even features a twelve-page spread that you’ll have to buy six copies of the comic to assemble into its full splendour.

I don't know why, but I desperately want this to be true, even if it is just a cheap way to screw me over.
 
 
Billuccho!
21:50 / 17.10.06
I don't know why, but I desperately want this to be true, even if it is just a cheap way to screw me over.

From Warren himself (on the Engine): "Seriously. Pages 10-21."

It seems he means that, rather than be a gatefold, it's twelve regular pages in a row and you'd need to string together six copies (or scan and form it on your computer or something) to see the entire image at once.
 
 
Triplets
22:25 / 17.10.06
Mm. It could be that he's trying to go against the fanbwank instinct "must. have. every. copy!" vs. put in the leg work, scan it, and have it for free (-2 quid).
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
23:40 / 17.10.06
I have to say that twelve issues is probably about maxing it out anyway. I'm not sure they could maintain pace, energy, and style for an ongoing.
 
 
DavidXBrunt
22:12 / 18.10.06
Yeah, I think you're right. I fear I'd lose the love to. I really enjoy Nextwave, really I do, but long term? It could just get a bit familiar and that would be a shame. 12 issues is a good number to establish it and play with the characters. Future short runs also sounds like a sensible approach too.

Yeeeeeeha. For no real reason. Just wanted to type that.
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
10:32 / 19.10.06
Marvel could have rotated the art team anyway, until Ellis' run ends and then have a whole new team onboard to keep the joke fresh.

think I read somewhere that Ellis has other stuff coming from Marvel, apart from THUNDERBOLTS; might be wrong, tho.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
12:45 / 19.10.06
Yeah, I think stopping at 12 is a top idea. Though minis in the future also rocks.
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
21:49 / 23.10.06
if this bit in today's LITG gets confirmed, then we've been caught in Ellis' web of lies... again.

oh, Internet Jesus, why have you forsaken us?
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
23:37 / 23.10.06
Er, which bit? Immonen starting as Ultimate Spider-Man's artist? That's the only tangentially linked bit I could see, but maybe I missed something.
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
10:32 / 24.10.06
I may be talking shite if the USM gig was offered after NEXTWAVE was put on hold, but so far it seems the other way round.

ok, it's stupid to speculate on no evidence, but it sounds as they thought the book would suffer without Immonen and that it was 'his' so it was decided to wait for the guy rather than calling a new penciller.

i duno... just talking trash, me. newsarama board mode off.
 
 
LDones
23:50 / 25.10.06
In non-7S news, this week's nextwave was really fucking good.

And featured more genuinely bald ripoffs than can be easily enumerated (but at least two of which are conscious Doom Patrol lifts, and one of which is a fucking hilarious Ultimates antidote).
 
 
X-Himy
01:41 / 26.10.06
The most recent Nextwave had a bunch of Morrison pisstakes. Don't forget the Castle Revolving one.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
15:11 / 26.10.06
The existential horror of Forbush Man!
 
 
Rachel Melmoth
00:48 / 28.10.06
Forbush Man! FORBUSH MAN! FORBUSH MAN!!

Forbush Man is in Nextwave and Ambush Bug is in 52. This is clearly the rennaisance for satirical characters with "Bush" in their names (quick! easy political joke! who wants it?) that I have waited for my entire comics-reading life. I am dashing in circles around the apartment howling the name, and my poor wife is baffled. God bless you, Warren Ellis.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
00:52 / 28.10.06
Plus he makes fun of the Authority. Whee!

Number None and one of the Ossuary priests from Orqwith.
 
 
FinderWolf
01:18 / 29.10.06
Wow. This issue really just kicked the Nextwave zaniness up to a whole new level. I honestly didn't see the "You think this letter on my head stands for France??" joke coming. And I wept with joy when I realized it was Forbush-Man. Well, not really. Well, a little. *snif* What a terrific comic book. Damn fun, this.
 
 
This Sunday
18:43 / 31.10.06
Sure it's all fun and laughs now, but trust me, when the next Patsy Cockrum style crackup occurs... someone's going to be carving an F in their head and stressing over the clearly Gaulist Party angle of modern comics, hoping for a return to the good old days when everyone hated the French, everyone loved the Jews, and writing 'the Gay' just meant you were happy, or the character's Russian... and it'll still be all fun and laughs.

Really this series is a great defense against the typical Ellis-trait-hating, in that it's what he does best: take something pre-existent and purify it down to a concentrate that comes from a newly-repressed, polished and digitally remastered angle, so that it looks like New Thing TM.

So, there's what, about four or five issues left? Still time for the necessary Warren Ellis Tics of getting most of the cast hooked up, someone to be left out of the fun, and some cig-burn/coffee-urination jokes to be made. The end. Applause. And then the mystery twenty-seventh issue of the twelve issue mini that was scheduled as an ongoing.

Has this series been referenced in any other comic, yet? Or seen some imitators.
Because it damn well should.
 
 
This Sunday
18:49 / 31.10.06
It has just hit me, that the Captain's old name, Captain [skullcrossboneskullcrossbonerepeatrepeat] was probably not Cap Cunt, or Cappy Fuck, but like, a fuck-off gesture as in (how appropriate) Captain Fuck Off, or Captain Fuck You.

So, when John W Chump on the street asks him his name and he's like "Captain," and the guy asks, "Like Captain what?" The Captain just says, "Like Captain Fuck You," and punches him until he explodes.

When Captain America asks, it's the same, except no explosion, Rogers does most of the punching, and there's soap.

How could this have taken so long to register into my head, and is this read the actual correct one?
 
 
Phex: Dorset Doom
19:14 / 31.10.06
Has this series been referenced in any other comic, yet?

Yeah, they should probably have a Civil War tie-in, or get killed off in Punisher War Diaries.
 
 
Cowboy Scientist
15:57 / 29.11.06
Okay, #10 is out. I just finished reading it. And it is AWESOME. Best issue so far.

"KNEEL BEFORE ZO!"

Okay, now, help me here; I recognise 3 of the homages/paroidies in the issue: Captain Marvel = Paul Pope, Machine Man = Daniel Clowes, Elsa Bloodstone = Mike Mignola, but Captain Universe = what?
 
 
andrewdrilon
19:35 / 29.11.06
Nextwave #10 is brilliant. Amazing. Fantabulous. Wow. The best issue of the series yet. The art homages from Stuart are priceless and the writing style tastes like so much Brendan McCarthy.

I didn't know Warren could write like this. He's usually so formal and structured; this issue of Nextwave is just unrestrained, mad beauty. Wow.

Captain Universe--dunno. Brendan McCarthy?
 
  

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