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astrojax69
23:31 / 09.04.06
for those interested in stretching, i can't recommend this 'posture and flexibility' program/system/whatever highly enough...

the site has a bit of detail on the approach and discussion boards give good guides to strecthing questions. i'm bad and don't do enough full workouts anywhere near often enough, but all my stretches i find i want to 'automatically' do are from posture and flex.

and kit is an interesting chap...
 
 
All Acting Regiment
01:48 / 10.04.06
Aye, toks. There's a park and stuff so I reckon I'll look at the geese.
 
 
Axolotl
18:13 / 10.04.06
I really like walking, but I don't walk my commute nearly as much as I should. This is mainly as if I walk to work I always turn up feeling all sweaty and minging which isn't really how I like to start my day. Plus in Glasgow there's always the weather to contend with. How do you cope with that Toksik?
 
 
Char Aina
18:41 / 10.04.06
with a change of clothes and a hardy, defiant demeanour.
deodorant is handy, as is having music.
 
 
illmatic
06:19 / 13.04.06
This looks like fun. Or torture, depending on your perspective.
 
 
Char Aina
06:43 / 13.04.06
are you meant to play with them or divine with them?
 
 
illmatic
09:31 / 13.04.06
You divine your future fitness.
 
 
Axolotl
17:55 / 13.04.06
Just signed up for a few sessions with a personal trainer, which is so out of character it's bizarre.
I hope that maybe it will help me maximise my results, and also because I want to start using the free weights and am worried that without some training I'll injure myself horribly. If they come up with anything particularly insightful I'll let you know.
 
 
ibis the being
13:46 / 14.04.06
I'm surprised at how many Barbelith members are also gym members. I loathe going to the gym... I used to have a membership to the Y and go 3-4 times a week when I had an office job and a more sedentary life. I'd mainly walk (some jogging) on the treadmill, but I hated it. HATED it. Repetitive exercise (running, walking, bicycling, etc) is too boring for me - I can't bear doing the same thing for 30 min or more. Probably why I wasn't cut out for an office job either. Unfortunately I don't like playing sports either, because competition makes me stress out badly. The only sport/exercise I've ever enjoyed is yoga. Changing positions, concentrating on breathing and posture, it kept my mind busy and engaged enough to be more than tolerable. I used to take a weekly yoga class at the Y but since I canceled my membership I can't go anymore. I should be doing it at home... maybe I'll try to carve out some time for that.

Now my job is much more physical and I think I get a pretty good amount of exercise just going about my normal work. I'm always on my feet, up and down ladders, contorting myself in positions not unlike yoga postures. And also now I have the dog, which makes me spend a lot more time outdoors walking & playing than I used to.
 
 
MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!
19:02 / 05.07.06
Threadcromancy, but I'd rather do this than start a new topic:

Since March 28, I've lost 33 pounds and gotten in the best shape I've been in since I was a sophomore in university, mainly by following this gentleman's good advice. About 75% of it, anyway: taking strong heed of the calorie-counting, near-daily exercise, and four-meal-a-day parts. I haven't been as attentive about the glycemic index of my foods, protein/carb/fat balance or weight training as he recommends, but I did my best to stick to the spirit of the thing for 100 days, and it's worked out tremendously well.

I'm back-patting a bit today, and I'm okay with that, and also wondering what I can do now that the 100 days are up. Keep doing the same thing seems good and obvious -- it's working for me -- but maybe try to add some meditation or something to the cycle, something that works on the internals as well as the externals.

Or just chill out, relax, and eat nanaimo bars for a month. That's got a lot of appeal too.

Keys I think were being single (which makes it a lot easier to plan both meal times and control meal portions -- there's no "let's go out for dinner tonight" influence or "hey, I bought a cheesecake today" temptations); really working hard on not beating myself up when I fell off the wagon (which I did at least four times, reviewing those cards will help me see if there's a routine on/off cycle, which I suspect there is... I'd guess that every three weeks I'd "freak out" for a couple of days as my body hit deep hunger mode) and the rowing machine.

The rowing machine is huge. I'm so glad my friend Sarah talked me into trying them three years ago... it's the first workout-type thing I've ever actually flat out enjoyed 75% of the time that I've done it. Non-weather-dependent, full-body workout, easy to pace and easy (with a bit of software) to challenge yourself with. On days I don't feel like kicking ass, I put a DVD in and just row while watching a TV show or whatever. I loves me some Concept 2.
 
 
illmatic
20:43 / 05.07.06
Well done, Matt. That is in an interesting site, if a little bit complex for a beginner. (I just showed it to my partner, she said "too difficult!"). I like the way he covers all the bases - diet, aerobic, resistance, even feelings. Good stuff. If you want to incorporate some meditation into your fitness programme, I'd recommend something like Tai Chi - won't be any good for cardiovascular stuff though, but it's fun, and martial arts forms have sufficient complexity to fascinate and hold one's interest in a way that say, press-ups don't.
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
21:26 / 05.07.06
I've been hitting the gym REALLY hard over the last month, since I finally got things in my life organized. It felt weird, having been away for a little over a year, and I'd lost a LOT of strength (and put on about 15 pounds).

But now that I've got a gym about 5 minutes from my house with TONS of big screen TVs, I now go to watch things like World Cup games and other highly visual things while I lsiten to podcasts.

Hopefully I can keep it up when I get a new full-time job.
 
 
*
21:32 / 05.07.06
Tai Chi - won't be any good for cardiovascular stuff though

I beg to differ. If you're breathing correctly, it actually does do quite a bit of cardio. The trick is to go as slowly as you can while drawing your breath out to the full extent of the movement. It's endurance rather than speed-based.
 
 
illmatic
21:36 / 05.07.06
Id - do you think you can build the same level of fitness as say, running, through tai chi? Not being picky, just curious.
 
 
MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!
08:41 / 06.07.06
I'll second the question, actually... I do have an interest in Tai Chi, it's just more aesthetic/meditative than "exercisey." One of my co-workers is deep into kung fu for the discipline/spirituality aspects (she's also a pacifist) and has almost convinced me to give it a shot.

The Hussman thing isn't really THAT complicated once you've read through it. It just boils down to (a) eat sensibly, (b) eat several small meals a day instead of three big ones, and (c) write everything down. Oh, and exercise, but that's kind of a given. I cheerfully semi-ignored all of the glycemic index stuff and ate pizza and hamburger buns and etc. It's the writing everything down that seems most like "work," but it's really just a matter of carrying a recipe card around with you and jotting down what you eat on it.

I've been meaning to try the kung fu thing (and there's a Tai Chi class right before in the same room, so I can check both out at once), but it's at 7 p.m. on weeknights and I much prefer to get my exercise in the morning. I've been keeping a rigorous 5 a.m. up and writing, 6:30 exercise, 8:00 off to work, and 9 p.m. go to bed routine and it REALLY works for me. But it means that at the end of the workday, I'm wiped and don't really like the idea of running out and doing something strenuous. On the other hand, shaking that up for a month just to see might be good. Won't kill me, at any rate.
 
 
illmatic
10:15 / 06.07.06
If you do get the form down, you'll be able to shift your practice to mornings, that's what I do anyhow. I find evening practise normally wakes me up and lets me shake off the day a bit. I'd love to encounter big group of Chinese folks practising in the park of an AM, but it doesn't happen over here!
 
 
MissGogo
13:34 / 06.07.06
Pilates and Hardcore Yoga - love it!
 
 
Mister Six, whom all the girls
14:11 / 06.07.06
Comic shop's right next to the gymn and yet still I make it maybe twice a month.

My body loves the exercise (from my happiness in manual labor jobs I'm convinced that I'm meant to work on a dockyard rather than a desk writing code) but once I fall out of the pattern it's murder getting back into it. Bouts of sickness and heart palpiations have also made this year a bit tricky in thje exercise dept. I used to jog outside but I have a displaced patella so the terrain is too much trouble for me.

That said I do ab crunches, treadmill, rowing machine, cross/trainer Dalek-machine. Aside from my stint at the world class cigarettes and coffee diet (I lost so much weight so quickly... aside from the hacking fits and stomach cramps it was glorious), my body has hardly changed since I was 16... which is not exactly good.

I'm also a bit chatty so I sometimes end up spending longer at the gym due to the lady next to me telling me about her kid's pilates routine (maybe it's a north shore thing).
 
 
illmatic
15:03 / 08.08.06
Don't know if anyone here has seen Crossfit? It's basically a mixed training programme of weights, running and gymnastics, with a different selection daily, that people follow via the net and accompanying bulletin board. It stops one getting stuck in an exercise rut, and helps to hit all the different parts you need for all round of fitness. I'm not doing it 'cos a) I'm not fit enough and b) don't have access to weights currently, but I'm may join a gym soon, and train my way up to being able to keep up with it.
 
 
illmatic
15:29 / 08.08.06
Actually, looking at the Crossfit programmes, god only knows how long it'd take - they're brutal. Found some stuff on another site which is similar workouts but graded - I think I'd struggle with the "buttercup" grade.
 
 
imaginary mice
18:59 / 08.08.06
I've just been promoted to the advanced Tai Chi class! I'm very chuffed.

I haven't been running for ages. I don't mind it during the winter when there's not much else to do because it's dark outside. But in the summer I prefer seeing my horse to either go riding or to do some groundwork.

[goes off on a tangent about her horse] He's making amazing progress - he now walks sidewards towards me, sidewards away from me, backwards and forwards "freestyle" (without a rope, stick or any other aid) and I can swing a massive whip right above his head without him moving. The best thing about it is seeing the facial expressions of other horse owners when they see us practising. It kind of beats running in the park. [/goes off on a tangent about her horse]
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
20:44 / 08.08.06
imaginary mice, congratulations on your advancement in Tai Chi. Also, are you and your horse training for some kind of (erm?) rodeo act? Sounds intriguing.

OK, back on topic, kind of: does anybody know if squeezing, say, a tennis ball will help improve the strength in my left hand? I have quite small hands and this means that playing bar-chords on my (borrowed) guitar gets painful very quickly (usually by the time I reach a Middle 8). However, I've been practicing bar-chords regularly for many, many months, trying to build up strength, but it doesn't seem to be working.

Help?
 
 
illmatic
04:45 / 09.08.06
I don't know fer sure, but lots of people who have to use their hands for strength do do those sort of exercises (climbers can even buy "Power Putty" to squeeze) so I guess there's no harm in trying.
 
 
captain piss
08:52 / 09.08.06
Paranoid: In my experience it took quite a while to build up the strength to be able to play bar chords without strain – maybe over a year of regular playing. But I guess it varies from person to person. I’ve actually been reading this book recently, which is about the use of Alexander technique in playing instruments, and it had this rather finger-wagging comment to make on the issue: “Small hands, short fingers, weak fingers are but flimsy excuses for end-gaining behaviour. Regardless of their size and shape, hands used in harmonious co-ordination with the whole self have all the power, suppleness, precision and speed need for every task. To master the use of the arms and hands without harming themselves, all musicians must acquire healthy practising habits”. This is kind of saying that if you pay attention to the way your back is working you’ll find you have a lot more strength in your hands to play. Erm, anyway - PM if you want to ask more about this as it's somthing i've come up against meself.
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
12:18 / 09.08.06
Giant Haystacks, thanks big guy. Squeezing Power Putty sounds like more fun than squeezing a tennis ball.

just some guy, thanks also. You're probably right about my posture, etc, and I've been meaning to start using the Alexander technique for some time now. Indeed, I'll definitely put that book on my "books to buy when you get some dough" list, and I may well PM you in the future for more advice. So be warned! Mwuah-ha-haaaaah! cough

Many thanks.
 
 
MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!
16:11 / 19.10.06
Hey, does anyone here have any experience with heart rate monitors? I'd like to get one, but there's a ridiculous number out there, varying in price from CAD$60 to $300.

I'd like it principally to... well, monitor my heart rate. % of maximum and all that jazz. I'm not as interest in knowing how many calories I've burned or storing complex routines and schedules -- but if somebody has been surprised by how good and useful these features have turned out to be, I'd be interested in hearing about it.

I get 75% of my exercise from the rowing machine, which already keeps track of estimated calories and tracks exercise times, past rows, etc. This would be something to help with that, and also with jogging, workouts with the bag, etc. etc.

I'd like to avoid stinkers and get something not TOO expensive. Suggestions?
 
 
Mirror
13:54 / 20.10.06
I've been thinking about giving Animal Strength training a try - the founder of the system lives in my area.

The only thing that really intimidates me is the fact that his gym has puke buckets spaced at regular intervals - and from what I hear, they're critical to have around.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
15:36 / 20.10.06
Oh, man.

That is perhaps the most homoerotic website I've ever seen. Adn I watch a lot of Bearotica.

You must. You simply must.
 
 
Papess
17:24 / 20.10.06
From the stumptous.com website:

Sacred Gym Vision!

Awed witnesses reported a visitation by the Goddess Sq'waht in a local gym recently. "This experience has shown me the true way", said one. "No longer will I trifle with leg lifts and inner thigh machines. Sq'waht is all-powerful."


The Goddess Sq'waht. I do so love that.
And what a hottie in the combat booties...oh yah!

I am also loving pilates, which I have re-committed myself to since September. Great for ab training and the elongation of the muscles and limbs. Amazing for dancers, as it helps to increase flexibility, poise and create the definition that provides good form in dancing.

I do need to work on some upper body strength and so I recovered these push-up bars from the storage closet, someone had left at my place. I will thank them because using the bars is doing wonders for my back and less hurty on the wrists.

I have been taking a sabbatical this year and I want to return to my work rested, healthy, fit and looking smokin' in my new costumes.
 
 
illmatic
08:02 / 27.10.06
At the minute, I’m quite excited by Crossfit. I’ve posted about it before but I was chatting to Vicennes last night about it so thought I’d get something down. Basically, it’s a cross-disciplinary exercise programme, run via the internet with daily workouts (Workouts of the Day) posted on the homepage of their main site (rest days are also allocated). So one can follow along and chat about results via the comments section or accompanying message board. So far, so interesting web-based social phenomena, but what really makes the site interesting for me is two things - the programme itself, and the way it’s graded.

The programmes blend of disciplines is largely Olympic weightlifting, gymnastics and interval training (some other bits are thrown in). More about the reasons behind this here. (PDF link). Olympic weights are used because big whole body compound exercises (compound = requiring use of lots of muscle groups, as opposed to isolation exercises which build single muscles/ muscle groups) are in themselves quite challenging, and require the development of a degree of skill, agility and flexibility, and thy build great strength. I’ve been doing a few basic movements at a weightlifting club and they are a lot of fun. Gymnastics is in because gymnasts have unrivalled upper body strength, and again, the movements are challenging and develop flexibility and so forth.

Interval training is short sharp bursts of maximum intensity exercise – ie rowing or sprinting full out for 20 secs, resting ten secs, repeating x8. Weirdly, this actually seems to make you fitter and stronger than say, running half an hour. Something about rates of adaptation and exertion. The sports science is in the link. I can vouch for this from my own experience. I’ve never felt fitter than when I was doing shuttle runs twice weekly (see upthread).

However, you might look at the Crossfit website and unless you are Kelly Holmes (Hi Kelly!) think, hmm, those workouts would kill me. Which is true (Handstand pressups? Yeah, right). I think there have been two in the last month that I’ve been able to do straight off. But, as I said they are graded, and people working with them are encouraged to via the message board to butt up against their limits slowly, rather than storm the ramparts. There are plenty of people doing it who’ve gone from a completely sedentary lifestyle and are working their way up. There’s a fair few pensioners doing it and lots of kids. You halve or quarter the insentity, step down the weight listing, substitute easier exercises or whatever.

I think it’s the best and most comprehensive exercise programme I’ve seen. The only downer is you need access to a gym to do it (which I don’t have, 24-7). I think however, I’m going to commit to it and do the bits I can, when I can. I'd like a new physical challenge. I quite fancy trying to learn a handstand.
 
 
illmatic
11:32 / 28.10.06
So I tried a few of the Crossfit workouts. One yesterday and one this morning. Yesterday, I tried one they call "Cindy", which is:

5 pullups
10 pressups
15 squats

If you are an professional athlete, you could MAYBE do 20 reps of that in 20 minutes. I was aiming for 5, and got 7. However, I felt like I'd been hit by a fucking truck. This actually doesn't bother me that much, I seem to have developed freaky exercise masochism over the last year or so.

Did another workout today which consisted of 1200/800/400 metre runs, alternated with yet more pullups (I managed 15/9/5). There's another component - sort of squatting with a barbell - which I did when I got home, with very light dumbells, 2/15/9 (not enough weight really), with a few more pullups for good luck. I felt like I'd been hit with a slightly smaller truck, perhaps just a family size estate car. I really enjoy this stuff, and having got a flavour of the workouts now, I'm conscious now of just how bloody fit it'll make me if I stick with it. It's the combo of cardiovascular workout with muscular exertion. Great stuff.
 
 
Char Aina
04:24 / 18.12.06
thought it might be an idea to bump this, given the time of year.

anyone still keeping fit?
or have you all dropped off?
i'm still doing sit ups and shit, but my gym visits are pretty damn infrequent. i can feel an impending january shunt, and probably a New Regime with it.

i'm still fatter than i should be, and i still can't do 20 chin ups.

so much for june.
june '07?
 
 
akira
11:02 / 18.12.06
I never liked going gyms so I do all my workouts at home. Its amazing how much you can actually do with a set of dumbells a barbell and a bench. Plus I feel like Rocky in Rocky 4 when he's training in Russia and has to use rocks whilst Ivan Drago uses all the top equipment. Sissy. I have to go chase a chicken..
 
 
illmatic
11:38 / 18.12.06
I'm still doing it, much to the boredom of some of your fellow board members, toks. I got called a "jock" on Friday night!

Anyway, this is the desgnated space so I can bore away. I'm still doing Ba Gua, though I had a dip of interest and attendence a month or so ago. A redesign of some of the forms has inspired me again. Want to up the number of class around February next year.

Still into the Crossfit thing (see above), it is a really excellent programme, though you'd have to be quite committed to make the best of it (true of anything, I suppose). I'd recommend it to anyone, because it's so comprehensive, and you can scale it for your needs. I can't do it properly as I don't have regular access to weights but I try and do what I can. As long as you're working on your limits from a variety of angles, you're kind of doing the programme, I guess. I did "Cindy" again the other night. Eight reps in 16 mins, and could've done more. I'm weight training twice a week at a club near me and powerlifing (PB - Squat 70, Bench 60, Deadlift 110) and learning the Olympic lifts.

Been pissing around with some basic gymnastics stuff as well. This is part of the Crossfit inspired cross-disciplinary stuff. Details here plus I'm trying to do L-Sits as well, and working on my pullups and chinups. PB is 11 with full hang on each rep. I'm getting some gymnastics rings from Xmas!

Haven't been running much recently due to an injury so I've been very good and let it heal. Feels right as rain now, so it's time to start working on my 400m time (again, part of the Crossfit programme). The last couple of months I feel like I'm making the transition from vaugely "fit" to ... um, "really fucking fit".
 
 
illmatic
11:58 / 18.12.06
Another thing Toks, if you want to do chinups, put a bar up in your kitchen/hall/wherever flatmates can't see you. Argos do one for £7.50. I couldn't do one at first, so I just did negative reps - hanging and lowering myself down. 5 of them a few times a day, and I was soon able to do full chins.
 
  

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