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I don't see the point in PMs about something in a public arena, unless there's a reason for discretion.
I thought I explained pretty clearly what I meant, in the above post.
there seems something "funny", ie. walking the line of acceptability, about listing Jewish superheroes (through what cultural signs?) as some kind of offended group, identifying yourself as a "fellow fan of Hanukka" and coming out with the "oy vey". It seems like Oddman's keeping it carefully above-board while having a little laugh at Jewishness.
So, those things I had a niggling problem with:
-- listing Jewish superheroes, some of whom were surprising choices and hence seemed a semi-satirical list (Adam Sandler is not what most people would class as a superhero). To me, this prompted the thought that Oddman's post was intended as some form of deadpan joke, not meant to be taken entirely seriously.
-- listing Jewish superheroes as "a part of Judaism" and "prominent Jewish figures". Again, the tone seems semi-satirical. Nite Owl and Barry Allen are not what most people would call "prominent Jewish figures". The phrase "a part of Judaism" is odd and again, cues me to wonder whether Oddman's post is some kind of joke. As I said, if someone described black superheroes as "part of Blackness", I would take that unusual choice of words as signalling a satire of some form.
-- "a fellow fan of Hanukka": again, an odd choice of phrase, to imply what? That you're Jewish? That you're a fan of Jewishness, or just Jewish holidays? As I said, I'd feel equally dubious about someone identifying as a friend to African Americans, by labelling themselves a "fan of Kwanzaa".
-- "Oy": added to the above, this impersonation of the Jewish "voice" contributes to a sense of stereotype and mockery.
Again, I feel I said it the best I could here:
It's hard to pin down exactly what seems subtly mocking and faux-naive about this: but I'd feel it was equally dubious if I said I was going to depict all the superheroes "involved in blackness" getting ticked off about racism, and had some weird, semi-satirical inclusions (Bill Cosby?), then classed myself as a "fellow fan of Kwanzaa" and interjected "tru dat my bredrin".
But my explanation here is not for Oddman, because Oddman's behaviour has led me to think of him as a troll, and frankly I think most everything he posts is a wind-up. His innocent defences of his statements on the previous page will be a slow-burning wind-up, too. I think he has a faux-naive tone, playing it above-board while trying to get a rise out of other people.
What I've just posted is for the benefit of anyone else who genuinely couldn't see where I was coming from on the previous page; it is not worth my while to play a troll's game and give him what he's baiting for. |
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