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D Terminator XXXIII
16:00 / 02.10.05
Suggestion 1: Nominations should only run for a week, to make this thread a bit more compressed. So, next Sunday, 6PM-ish, is your last chance to contribute to this thread.

Suggestion 2: In order to keep the lists diverse enough, each poster should ideally nominate at least 10. I want to go with 13, but the poster after me sets the course.

Suggestion 3: Keep your nominations to what you currently think are the best movies and eff authenticity, whatever it is, by avoiding what other lists say are the best movies of All Time tm.

I'll volunteer right awawy to clean up the list next Sunday, but for now, I have to go home and sort out the fillers from my faves.
 
 
D Terminator XXXIII
16:06 / 02.10.05
And if you provide reasons, you will be huggled, you will be loved.
 
 
TroyJ15
20:14 / 02.10.05
You're on. Stuff like this is always fun. I chose movies that are usually snubbed in favor of similar films or movies that I just have a personal love for.
Okay, in no particular order, here we go...

1) Indiana Jones the Temple of Doom - Shameless, Racist, Violent as hell, over-the-top, and completely implausible. The genius of this is that Speilberg, Ford, and Lucas make no apologies. The ultimate guilty pleasure but is of course constantly passed up for Raiders. Which no arguing is a better movie but it's not quite as fun as this one.

2) Magnificent 7 - Not taking anything away from Seven Samurai, but movie snobs have a tendency to put this western remake. Far below it and rightfully so --- without Seven Samurai there would not be the Magnificent Seven. Regardless, I love this movie and rather watch it than the 3 hour Samurai.

3) For a Few Dollars More - Yeah yeah yeah People love The Good, The Bad, The Ugly and Fistfull of Dollars! But I'm a sucker for simple stories that become more and more complicated! And always can appreciate movie that isn't overlong (which is exactly what the other two are Spaghetti Westerns are)

4) Nightmare Before Christmas - A hell of an imaginative ride that I feel is better than most animated film's by Digital or otherwise (Let me cover my ass by saying Pixar makes great movies, I just like Nightmare more than Bugs Life and both Toy Story movies). The best Tim Burton movie and he didn't even direct it!

5) Kill Bill 1 & 2 - It's to early to tell but I'm more than certain that film snobs will make Pulp Fiction the greatest Quentin Tarantino film in history. But I like Kill Bill more. It's a much more emotionally charged film. It genre hops so well too. From cartoony to dramatic sometimes in one breath. This to me so far is Tarantino's best film!

6) Empire Strikes Back - Again, whenever people make these list Star Wars goes over on Empire. But outside of AFI 100s, the general consensus is that Empire is a better movie. It is! It's beautifully filmed, strongly acted, much more clever film. I like my entertainment to be polished and Empire is the strongest example of a well made movie top to bottom. I know why Star Wars is up top, it's the first, it sparked a cultural phenomenon --- but EFF THAT! Empire is the backbone of the entire franchise because of 5 simple words: "Luke, I am Your Father." It set the entire SW Universe up for stories that sprout in 8 million different directions.

7) BatMan The Mask of Phantasm - Fortunately BatMan Begins has made people relaize how dull the Tim Burton BatMan movie was. And while Mask of the Phantasm, to me, is not better than Begins! It is always the one people forget about (or don't know about) and it's actually DAMN GOOD!

8) Jurassic Park - Jurassic Park is as close to Star Wars in terms of generational phenomenon, as well as huge technological jump (Titanic, to me, doesn't really count as a genrational phenomenon simply because it appeals to one type of audience and that's it). It also to me is the film that made me aware of film as a profession. And the Director's part in a movie. I paid alot more attention to what goes into making a movie after seeing the audience flip out in the theatre when watching this.

9) Mulan - I like it. And I'm a 24 year old man (I'm sure that's kinda scary). But I can sit down and watch it with the little ones and not be bored. I just threw that out there because it doesn't really get that much face time compared to other Disney cartoons, but I think its just as good as most of them

10)Dazed and Confused - Richard Linklater made a movie about 70s teens in the 90s and it was relevant to me as a high schooler. Not to mention I've met friends who are a bit younger or older and the love it because it is relevant to them too. Linklater, with this film, tapped into some sort of theme or tone or attitude that is universal with teenagers!

Sorry for all the typos! I wrote this quickly but hopefully this is the type of list you are looking for.
Let me know what you think!
 
 
sleazenation
20:31 / 02.10.05
I dunno. Reading the abstract makes me wonder if the original poster has even seen Citizen Kane, much less any other films that were made before, say 1960.
 
 
This Sunday
01:50 / 03.10.05
These will change by next week and are in absolutely no sort of order except as they came into my brain and I could think of what to say:

1. Sabrina - Audrey Hepburn! Humphrey Bogart! Directed and writ-for-screen by Billie Wilder! The clothes! The music! Bittersweet swoony tree-climbing, lovely romancy bits, and the best suicide attempt on screen ever. Oh, and Audrey Hepburn!

2. Black Tight Killers - AKA 'If You Touch Me I Shall Have Become Dangerous!' is just immensely fun. Ninja bubblegum bullets and a heroic if not-so-bright photographer. Dance sequences, mistaken rescue attempt involving a bondage photo shoot, and I really don't believe we'd have things like the 'Cutey Honey' movie, today, if it weren't for this Japanese equivalent (and superior) to Casino Royale.

3. Casino Royale - For all the Bonds, the schizophrenic pacing, script, and style, and of course, for the fact that ninety-nine-point-nine percent of Bond fans wish it didn't exist. And the 'shoot two people separate and cut them together because they hate each other' thing is nicely metatextual in a film about fluid and fucked identity.

4. Towards the Terra - 'Terra E' is an excellent film involving, amongst other things, a highly advanced and damaged future society of psychic types, rescued by a young man who reintroduces things like farming and sex. Absolutely horrible bit where a woman and child are psychically linked, involving deliberate head smashing, fire, and suicide.

5. Adolescence Apocalypse - The movie version of Utena. Funny, harrowing, romantic and silly and cosmic. Great and lovely dance sequence full of stars and water and roses! Swordfights and true love and dead boyfriends and naked motorcycling and more swordfights! Girls turning into cars and steered by their bondage-bride girlfriends for the sake of revolutionizing the world! Incest, lost car keys, cell-phones and princesses and a good old-fashioned villagers-unite-with-pitchforks-and-fire-to-storm-castle! Yay!

6. Le Samurai - Closest to being as close and entirely itself as any film I've ever seen. Paced beautifully and unflinchingly willing to do everything it has to as it has to.

7. Citizen Kane - I'm Charles Foster Kane = Fuck You, that's what my name is - but more effectively. My love of Welles is immense.

8. Princess Bride - Bill Goldman is a genius. It's true. From 'Marathon Man' to 'Butch Cassiday and the Sundance Kid' I love the guy, but this is the one that I just love beyond love. Hammy, cute, true love and swordfights and... just reread most of the 'Adolescence Apocalypse' stuff above. ^_^

9. Captain Blood - Olivia DeHavilland and Errol Flynn! Swordfights and true love and swoony bits and nice music and a witty reveal at the end that just warms the cockles of my little iced heart.

10. Labyrinth Alice In Wonderland Casablanca Breakfast At Tiffanies The Children's Hour Audition Pi Azumi If The Innocents Night of the Living Dead Death of Two Honorable Men Bullit Yojimbo Six-String Samurai Masked & Anonymous Split Second Star Trek: The Undiscovered Country Cape Fear and that thing where Robert Mitchum hunts down a couple kids... I couldn't bring myself to isolate another selection.
 
 
matthew.
15:08 / 03.10.05
1) Once Upon a Time in America. Sergio Leone's epic about gangsters and their fucked up lives. Long, pondering, meandering, it's easily one of the best gangster films I've seen.

2) L.A. Confidential. Blistering, quick-witted, epic, and still funny. It's a perfect adaptation of a big novel.

3) Magnolia. So this is where I get in trouble with people. This movie seems to polarize people; either they love it, or they loathe it. I love it. I love the performances, I love the story, I love the ending, I love it all. It's Altman-esque without being so... boring (like a lot of Altman movies).

4) The Big Sleep. Often overlooked in favor of Maltese Falcon or Casablanca, this is Howard Hawks' brilliant version of Raymond Chandler's novel. The adaptation was done by William Faulkner, for heaven's sake. (Funny anecdote: a chauffer is killed in the book and no solution is presented. Bogie and Hawks got into a brutal argument over who killed him, so they telegramed Chandler and asked him who killed the chauffer. Chandler went over his original notes and then sent back a telegram, which read, "I have no idea")

5) The Thin Man. Scathing humor, great mystery, and Asta... what more could you want? Nick and Nora were the most cosmopolitan detectives ever (until Bond, if you call him a detective) and had such great fun doing it. The best part about this film is the fact that it looks like even the actors are having fun.

6) House of Sand and Fog. First of all, let me preamble this with, "Jennifer Connelly is my soulmate" which is very true.... This movie is brutal. It is an attack on your emotions. One is torn between two people on a collision course, and when they hit, it's horrible. It's got such great performances but it's too bad they were ignored by the "prestigious" Academy.

7) The Big Lebowski. This is, of course, the Coens' maniacal version of Chandler's novel, loosely adapted, though. Infinitely quotable. Unending re-watch-ability. If I had to pick only one Coen movie, this is it. It was criminally ignored when it came out, but now look at it.

8) The King of Comedy. As I heard my friend recommend this, "This is a weird little movie". Jerry Lewis plays the straight man to an insane aspiring comedian played by DeNiro (long before he shat on us with Showtime, that Eddie Murphy movie). This movie takes it time setting up the frustrations of DeNiro, who's trying to get his big break on Jerry Lewis' character's talk show. Then DeNiro simply kidnaps Jerry Lewis with the aid of Sandra Bernhard. What's the weirdest part? DeNiro doing ten solid minutes of stand-up without any cuts in front of a real audience. Shudder.

9) Unforgiven. I know it's the obvious Eastwood movie, but it is his best movie, and I've seen, like, 95% of his oeuvre. It's very slow in building towards the explosive climax and it's very slow in building the characters. A lot of critics were tossing around words like "revisionist" and "unique" but Unforgiven simply continues the themes Eastwood explored in previous films, like Pale Rider, Outlaw Josey Wales, and Highplains Drifter.

10) A Perfect World. This is Stockholm syndrome at its very best. Kevin Costner (whose acting abilities comes in two forms: excellent and stupendously bad) plays an escaped con who kidnaps a small child and they drive across the southern states, avoiding Clint Eastwood and Laura Dern, who play cops of a sort. Another slow moving but beautiful movie. It's a Western set in the fifties, really. Costner and Eastwood play counterparts to each other, both living by a strict code of honour that they both must break in order to survive/get the job done. This theme is almost Joycean....

11) Chinatown. Last one. I swear. Okay, so this movie is neo-noir, it's revisionist, it's whatever. Set aside your assumptions and notions about this movie for a second. I'll tell you why, consisely, why this movie is perfect. The clues are always right in front of you and Jake Gittes. That's the theme of the movie. With Raymond Chandler, he perfected this style of mystery where the audience gets a forced limited perspective, very unlike Christie's omniscient narrators. Robert Towne, the screenwriter, takes this to the next logical level. It is a forced perspective of what Gittes' sees, in that if he misses an important clue, so does the audience. But that's not just a trick, that's the theme of the movie. What we see is not always the truth. So forget about it, Jake, it's just Chinatown.....

And some more movies: Requiem for a Dream, Unbreakable, Lord of the Rings, Army of Darkness, Maltese Falcon, Casablanca, Fargo, Citizen Kane, Ben-hur, Dawn of the Dead, Near Dark, Hellraiser, Cabin Fever, Imaginary Heroes, Ordinary People, The Prince of Tides, Misery, The World According to Garp, American Psycho, Minority Report, Portrait of a Lady.
 
 
matthew.
15:12 / 03.10.05
Daytripper, that thing with Robert Mitchum is The Night of the Hunter, which I believe is the first movie to have the "hate" and "love" tattoos on a character's knuckles.
 
 
D Terminator XXXIII
15:14 / 03.10.05
I dunno. Reading the abstract makes me wonder if the original poster has even seen Citizen Kane, much less any other films that were made before, say 1960.

Have seen bits and pieces of it on several occassions. I always snooze off. That's not what - do I really have to state?: - I think is the best cinema has to offer. I could of course ramble on, stating that just because the movie did something groundbreaking for the generation at the time (or, perhaps, to be more accurate: the following generation after that) doesn't necessarily mean I'll agree. Etcetera. But that really is a discussion that, if I rmeember correctly, has been touched upon on numerous occassions here.

I have a hard time choosing between the myriad of films available to me as great ones, so I'll break my list into pieces.

1) Adaptation

"A funhouse of mirrors," writes Premiere critic, Glenn Kenny, "The reviews of which serve a function I didn't glom onto at first; that is to say, that of a rorschach test." [/paraphrase] Something I, not being terribly clever, original or pretty, blindly agree with.

Is it a drama? A comedy? Satire? A parody? A combination of all? Of a genre not yet coined?

I'd say yes.
 
 
D Terminator XXXIII
15:38 / 03.10.05
writing myself into a corner here:

2) Dancer in the Dark

Sure, it's calculated. Not only that but it's been nastily calculated by one terribly child: director Lars von Trier. However, the emotional impact of the movie is so strong, so vicious and so impressive, that the calculation feels like a mere side effect, rather than as the main drive. Trier at the top of his game, most inventive and visceral.
 
 
■
18:03 / 03.10.05
OK, I'm assuming the order doesn't matter. I've seen a reasonable amount of world and classic cinema and I'm a little ashamed that so little of it floats my boat.
However, this is about favourite, not "best" films, yes?

1: Empire Strikes Back
Let's get it out of the way quick. You know why.

2: Brazil
I love this film so much. I've just realised with surprise that I don't own it, and I am off to Amazon to get it using this link when I'm done here. I've always been a sucker for dystopias, and this was the first film I can remember seeing that blended the conspiracy/paranoia of 1984 (I was in love with The Wall and a bit of a goth at the time. I am no longer either) and that beautiful Gilliam low-tech steampunk grime. That and Robert De Niro? What more do you need. Oh, and a girlfriend once did that thing with the big ribbon for me.

3: Citizen Kane
Strange one, this. Only ever watched it once (the day before a philosophy of film exam, ahem. Regle de Jeu? Yeah, see why it's good, don't really care) but so much of it is lodged in my brain so well that I feel I just don't have to see it again. I'm more in awe of this than anything, I suppose. I look at Orson Welles and wonder: "how the hell did he do all that so young and so well?"

4: It's a Wonderful Life
I demand to be allowed to blub like a baby at least once a year. It also has resonances with my life (I want to be as good a man as George Bailey; I was in the same position as Uncle Billy when I first watched it - money from work going missing; I am still hot for women who look like Donna Reed) and it has that perfectly timed slush-climax at the end.

5: Withnail and I
Because there is more to it than quotability and overt homophobia. It just takes about 70 viewings to get them all. Again, resonances with parting from one of my best friends from university mean that "nor women neither" gets me going. I'm also always the first one up and exploring when we go on holiday by mistake, and that musical theme is always in my brain when I do.

6: Dune
Yes, Dune. Slightly overblown. OK, very overblown, but so was the book, which it captures so faithfully it's scary. See the whole steampunk thing again, and tell me you didn't find the folding space and wierding module and the wormriding sequences mindblowing as a teenager.
Also Max von Sydow, Patrick Stewart, Kyle MacLachlan, err... Sting (OK, forget Sting, but the character was an arse as well). What's not to like? It even made Toto sound good.

7: North by Northwest
Probably the best Hitchcock because it's not trying too hard. Cary Grant is a suave and groovy hero, it's a great chase and it has an excellent denoument.

8: Breakfast at Tiffany's
Because I want Audrey Hepburn under my window miming to Moon River.

9: Farscape Finale
I know, not really a film, but it could have been, it's long enough, self-contained and it is probably the best science fiction ever made. Sue me.

I know there's a tenth somewhere which outranks Goodfellas and Laputa, so I'm saving myself until I remember what it is.
 
 
CameronStewart
18:51 / 03.10.05
>>>I love [Brazil] so much. I've just realised with surprise that I don't own it, and I am off to Amazon to get it using this link when I'm done here.<<

Ach, no, if you love it that much you owe it to yourself to get the Criterion Collection release, if possible (I'm not sure about UK availability).
 
 
&#9632;
18:58 / 03.10.05
Now, y'see, this is why DRM is such an awful idea. I have no idea whether this will play on my system, and I'm not about to take the risk. I have a copy of Fast Times at Ridgemont High I just cannot watch if I ever want to see any other DVDs ever again. Grrrr. Should those lovely people at Criterion be clear that these are not region coded I'd consider it. I can't find details on the site, though.
 
 
CameronStewart
19:07 / 03.10.05
Shame, the Criterion disc really is the ultimate version - Gilliam's complete 142-minute cut, personally assembled specifically for this disc, a great documentary about the struggle with Universal to release the film uncut, and the immensely pared-down 96 minute "happy" version (with commentary), which is fascinating to watch and see how drastically editing can change a film.

I'd almost say it's worth investing in a multi-region dvd player, for not just this but all the other Region 1 dvds you might want...
 
 
Spatula Clarke
19:16 / 03.10.05
The Criterion Brazil set is region free, so you can import it with no worries. The same doesn't apply to all their releases, though - some are, some aren't - so be careful if you end up going on a shopping spree there.
 
 
&#9632;
19:19 / 03.10.05
Hmmm. Sounds worthwhile. I've never seen the happy version (although my dreams for months after first seeing it has multiple endings, so I can't be sure I haven't worked one out), so I'm tempted. The thing is that I use my PC for DVDs as my monitor is better quality and bigger than my TV. I don't know how easy it is to get multi-region DVD drives, but I'd guess it's a lot harder than getting a TV-player to do the same job.

Ah, here we are from the FAQ: we can not ship to addresses outside North America. Annoyed now.
 
 
&#9632;
19:26 / 03.10.05
Anyway, back to the subject at hand, Cameron, what are yours? And can we spot their influences in yer comics?
 
 
Phex: Dorset Doom
20:37 / 03.10.05
Conan the Barbarian
Conan the Destroyer
Red Sonja

THESE FILMS CONTAIN TRUTH!
Also, Breakfast at Tiffany's.
 
 
&#9632;
20:41 / 03.10.05
A MAN MAY FIND GAMINE WINSOME HEROINES CUTE SHOULD HE WANT TO!
 
 
PatrickMM
21:22 / 03.10.05
Cube, check out this program, it can play DVDs from any region and you don't have to mess around with your drive settings.

As for the main topic. Among the previously mentioned I'd second Empire, Brazil and a big second to Magnolia. I'm perplexed how so many people could hate that film. If nothing else, you have to respect the scope of what it attempts, the first time I saw it, even though the story had reached a perfect conclusion, I just didn't want it to end. There was such a phenomenal atmosphere in the world of the film, I wanted to stay there. Onto the new ones...

1. Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me- A film targetted at one of the smallest audiences of all time, what with the fact that it requires knowledge from every episode of the series, and even then it's still very difficult to understand, not to mention the odd structuring of having a first half hour with virtually no connection to the main story. But if you've seen the series, this is a phenomenal piece of work. It's Lynch's best film in that it's the only one to fully synthesize the bizarre symbolic content with very real emotional drive. It's also his most abstract, and that's saying something. FWWM is the essential bridge between his early films and more recent stuff like Mulholland Dr.

2. Batman Returns - It fails as an adaptation of Batman comics, hell, Batman is the fourth most important character in the film, but as a film, Batman Returns is phenomenal. This is the dark half of Edward Scissorhands, touching on all of Burton's favorite themes, notably the outsider's position within society. And then there's one of Burton's best characters, Catwoman, whose relationship with Bruce is the closest any comic book movie has gotten to the deconstructive analysis of Watchmen. The film goes so far over the top in terms of visual and score, particuarly in the ending where hundreds of penguins fire missiles at a zoo. This is a really underrated film.

3. Leon: The Professional - This is one that's beloved in online circles, and is highly ranked on the IMDB Top 250, but I've never seen mentioned in a greatest films of all time list. I think part of the reason for that is its strong genre trappings, and the idea that an action movie can't be serious art. But this movie has at its heart one of the most interesting character relationships I've ever seen in a film. It's so easy to become attached to these characters, largely due to the career best performances of Portman and Reno.

4. Chasing Amy - Kevin Smith is a controversial figure online, and in recent years between a couple of awful films and excessive self promotion, general opinion about him is down, but that shouldn't obscure the brilliance of Chasing Amy. This is the rare film that is able to seamlessly move from very broad, and funny, comedy to intense emotional drama without seeming forced. 'Dramady' usually implies a comedy where one person gets cancer halfway through, but this is an example of the form done right. The acting's top notch, even Affleck, and Jay and Silent Bob are at their funniest, appearing at just the right time to lighten the proceedings.

5. Irreversible - This film garnered a lot of controversy, for its extreme violence, but after seeing it a couple of times, the shock is diminished and it's easier to focus on the great characters and virtuostic filmmaking. I've never seen anyone make a camera move like Noe does here, careening through buildings in the opening scene, or doing an uninterrupted fifteen minute take during the party scene. It's a great film to analyze, as a deconstruction of the revenge genre that uses the backwards narrative to serve a thematic point rather than as the basis for the film itself. And besides that, it's an all encompassing intense film experience unlike anything else ever made.
 
 
&#9632;
22:08 / 03.10.05
I think the reason Leon doesn't get so much attention is, well, y'know, the whole Natalie Portman (now a desperately sexy young woman) as a kid thing... OOh, sudden train of thought station jump goes Portman, Lolita, Kubrick...

10: The Shining
Yes. Another film I don't own (must sort that, too) and love. Will explain later. Too tired.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
22:42 / 03.10.05
Cube> CD-Wow have got it for £24.99, which is an absolute bargain.
 
 
&#9632;
08:54 / 04.10.05
Nice one, Randy. Dwindling financial resources have just shrunk further. Yay!
 
 
robertk
10:48 / 04.10.05
This is already quite the usual stuff, after sorting out the most obvious candidates (American Beauty, Fight Club, Space Odyssey etc.), this is what's left, alphabetical order:

Amores Perros (Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu, MEX 2000)
This movie is almost epic in its scope. In its three hours it tells the stories of a boy trying to get money through dog fights, a top model disfigured by a terrible accident and an ex-zapatist in search of his family. And they're all connected! Dubliners in Mexico.

Buffalo 66 (Vincent Gallo, USA 1997)
Independent movie featuring Christina Ricci in her sweetest role ever. This movie is just so lovely in a corny and 1980s way, I love it!

Dark City (Alex Proyas, USA 1998)
Director of The Crow makes another movie set in eternal night. Love the mysterious and weird atmosphere, especially in the beginning. A masterpiece with flaws.

Das Boot (Wolfgang Petersen, D 1981)
Best Petersen film. Must-see of course.

Donnie Darko (Richard Kelly, USA 2001)
Makes you laugh and cry at the same time. Great humour, but also one of the saddest love stories of the last years.

Gerry (Gus van Sant, USA 2002)
Two guys get lost hiking somewhere in the desert, and that's what you see. Van Sant's most experimental film so far manages to drag you right into the action. You are there, your thoughts go floating somewhere behind the mountains, after some minutes of walking calmly with the two protagonists you begin to think about nothing and everything, you're paralyzed. Intense experience.

High Fidelity (Stephen Frears, USA 2000)
Everybody who's gone through this will understand my choice here. The break-up movie!

Johnny Got His Gun (Dalton Trumbo, USA 1971)
A real downer, this sinister satire shows you a young veteran who comes to a hospital with no exremities, blind and dumb. Memory of his last days before the war gets slowly mixed with delusions and phantasy. And Jesus is in there too!

Magnolia (Paul Thomas Anderson, USA 1999)
I've also heard of people not liking it, but if I had to name one, this'd be my favourite movie of all times. Close to perfect imho, tons of allusions, innuendo, media satire, and whoa those characters! And lovely Aimée Mann!

Memento (Christopher Nolan, USA 2000)
Innovative, creepy and quite funny in places. Pretty great in its own way, just can't watch more than two times a year.

Oldboy (Chan-wook Park, KOR 2003)
Same goes with this one - understandably not a film I'd recommend for a popcorn night with friends, but still - this one totally blew me away the first time I watched it. The optics, the overall desperate atmosphere. So much better than Mr Vengeance.

Requiem For A Dream (Darren Aronofsky, USA 2000)
This was so intense too. Although Aronofsky's direction is sometimes a bit too in-the-face for me, but possibly this is what makes it work so well.

Strange Days (Kathryn Bigelow, USA 1995)
Talk about in-the-face! If there was one film that absolutely got me through teenhood, voilà. Keywords: Cyberpunk, LA, Skunk Anansie, Juliette Lewis.

The Big Lebowski (Joel Coen, USA 1997)
Simply everything in this movie is hilarious. Even the guy sitting in the back while the Dude's landlord is performing his cycle, you know which one I mean.

Twelve Monkeys (Terry Gilliam, USA 1995)
Grotesque in places, mostly just weird and warped - like a painting that doesn't make sense if you don't see it in whole, which you can't because it is too fucking huge.
 
 
D Terminator XXXIII
10:49 / 04.10.05
3) Sunset Boulevard

It was either this, or Touch of Evil, which oozes delirious menace. See, I can love Welles too. I'll go with Sunset... because. Just because.

Allright, I guess I'll profess to being partial to movies that succesfully blend fiction with reality; even if one chooses to overlook any of the biting commentary at the Dream Factory's expense, it is still a superb movie. A tale of inevitability, the path to the (known) conclusion is simultaneously masterful and scathing.

4) Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle

Mindless fun. Bigger, faster, harder, funnier and better than the first. Each glorious set piece seems to have been done by different directors, resulting in a very schizophrenic whole. Oh, and the subtext, intentional or not, is very weird indeed. If this one doesn't achieve status as one of the pop movie landmarks, it will not deserve its apathetic audience.

5 Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me

What Patrick said. I had a hard time choosing between this, Eraserhead, Blue Velvet and Lost Highway, and for most of the reasons that Patrick stated, I'll go with this. Part of its peculiar resonance, I'd have to say, stems from the fact that it's been edited down from an, almost, equally bewildering, longer script, but which was less so.

Okay, 5 to go.
 
 
&#9632;
10:54 / 04.10.05
Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle

I also find myself defending this one on a regular basis. Not an all-time great, but very fun.
 
 
Bed Head
11:34 / 04.10.05
A MAN MAY FIND GAMINE WINSOME HEROINES CUTE SHOULD HE WANT TO!

*sashays into thread singing ‘Bonjour Paris!’*

But dudes, if you’ll permit me, why all this love for the likes of Breakfast At Tiffany’s and Sabrina Fair, when Funny Face is clearly the finer choice? Funny Face has Hep in a groovy black polo neck, swooning around Paris and hanging out with comedy philosophers. And *dancing*. Lots and lots of joyous, wonderful, life-enriching dancing.
 
 
D Terminator XXXIII
12:07 / 04.10.05
I also find myself defending this one on a regular basis.

Yeah. What is wrong with people? I read that the percieved underperfomance (okay, it grossed far less than what it was made for -- but, surely, it is in the black with the DVD sales?) at the American box office killed any chance of a third installment, which is a shame, because going by the exponential rise in density from the first to the second, it would have been interesting to see how they would have played it up.
 
 
CameronStewart
14:29 / 04.10.05
>>>Johnny Got His Gun (Dalton Trumbo, USA 1971)... And Jesus is in there too!<<<

Not just Jesus, Donald Sutherland as Jesus!

I saw that movie in high school and it freaked the shit out of me.
 
 
X-Himy
14:53 / 04.10.05
I hated the first Charlie's Angels movie, and was suckered into watching the second one through a bizarre Faustian bargain. Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle was a movie so terrible it made me doubt the existence of a just and loving god(s). It was a movie so devoid of any redeeming aspect in either action, T&A, or anything else that I left the theatre and wanted to kick puppies. Enjoying this movie is surely a sign that you suffer from chemical imbalances.

Sorry about that, but I really do hate that movie beyond all reason. The ludicrous ass shots of three actresses, none of whom are all that attractive to begin with (Cameron Diaz is beyond emaciated) left me flaccid for a month.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
14:55 / 04.10.05
Well, women are only there to arouse you sexually, X-Himy, so that film must be a certified failure!

WELL DONE.
 
 
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14:56 / 04.10.05
left me flaccid for a month
No, that's a sign of chemical imbalances. I think I got an email from someone about that today.
 
 
D Terminator XXXIII
15:23 / 04.10.05
Sorry about that, but I really do hate that movie beyond all reason.

Cube seconded.
 
 
D Terminator XXXIII
15:53 / 04.10.05
Aaanyway:

6) Videodrome, Naked Lunch, eXistenZ

Cronenberg stands the test of time -- The Brood, a late 70s movie, is as good now as anything else he's done since -- and to try to separate the three movies I've listed is, to me, futile; they complement each other. Layers within the stories and body horror told with a scary, scary intelligence = he's much, much better than the more populist directors of his generation.

7) Punch Drunk Love

I like Magnolia. I love Punch Drunk Love. Absurdist and tight; sublimely beautiful and extraordinarily strange. Sandler plays another man-child, who is not that different from the characters in his more commercial movies, but the context is far from pedestrian. In fact, by utilizing new ways to tell a boy-meets-girl story, Anderson displays that he is one of todays directors that will matter in the future.
 
 
Hieronymus
16:52 / 04.10.05
Most of the really good ones have already been mentioned. But I'll take a crack at a few more.

A Very Long Engagement: Far and above greater than Amelie. A gorgeous, heart-wrenching film from beginning to end with subdued but powerful performances by Tatou, the late Ticky Holgado, Marion Cotillard and yes Jodie Foster. Can't sing the praises of this one enough. It shows up Spielberg's 'Saving Private Ryan' for the cheap, Hollywood war knockoff that it is.

The Wizard of Oz: I hate musicals. Hate them, hate them, hate them. But god help me, I still get all soft in the heart when I hear "Somewhere Over the Rainbow". The sets still blow my mind.

Gattaca: A vastly underrated and muted sci-fi film, in an era when sci-fi usually tends toward steroids, gadgets, explosions and action (See the pile of manure that is Minority Report for example) not to mention a solid commentary on the future of genetic engineering and racial superiority. Besides, how can you not like those Buck Rogers rocketships.

Metropolis: Fritz Lang's dystopic silent film is worth seeing for no other reason than it's the visual granddaddy of Blade Runner, Star Wars, The Matrix... christ the list is endless.

Cool Hand Luke: Paul Newman's work in the 60's is some of the best he's ever done. Hombre...Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid...Hud. Good films. But Newman's Luke, as a man who won't be broken in prison, is hands down the tops.

Apocalypse Now: I honestly thought this movie was fantastic. Until I saw the redux, with the scenes at the plantation. And jesus, what a difference an extra 45 minutes makes. Now it's just goddamn amazing.

Jacob's Ladder: A man trapped in the hell of his war-torn nightmares. I saw this when it first came out on video and subsequent films like Se7en and Requiem For A Dream don't even compare. It still makes me crap my pants.

Miller's Crossing: One of the more forgotten Coen Bros. films and my favorite for the tribute to Kurosawa's Yojimbo that it is (Bruce Willis's Last Man Standing is like a shitty, shitty remake of both films) and for the coolest Prohibiton Era lines ever written.

The Getaway: (the original not the moronic 90s remake with Alec Baldwin and Kim Basinger) It doesn't get any cooler than Steve McQueen and Ali McGraw (who is hot hot hot) in this 70s heist movie. One of Sam Peckinpah's gems.

The Name of The Rose: Umberto Eco's book is better but this film stands well enough on its own. Sean Connery as a medieval monk in the vein of Sherlock Holmes and a very young Christian Slater as his student/boy wonder. Jean Jacques Annaud also ended up directing one of my favorite erotic films, The Lover.
 
 
grant
17:10 / 04.10.05
These are all favorite movies of mine, but they're not all of my favorite movies, nor are they the most favorite. They're the ones that seem the most Barbelith-appropriate, I think. I tried not to be intentionally obscurantist, but that's a bit like asking a fish not to splash around so much.

Alice - Jan Svankmajer bended my head and slithered into my dreams with this extraordinarily vivid slice of dream-stuff. He tells the story of Alice in Wonderland with no dialogue (nearly no spoken words at all) and stop-motion animated puppets made from crumbling antique dolls, preserved bones, Victorian machine parts, raw meat, daguerrotype cut-outs and whatever else happened to be lying around his magic laboratory. The taxidermed White Rabbit leaks sawdust when he takes out his pocketwatch. Alice is sometimes a real little girl, and sometimes a chipped and faded porcelain doll.

Vanishing Point - This typifies the B-cinema of the 70s -- the kind of things that were being made then that can't be made now, for whatever reason. Too gritty, too "arty" for exploitation audiences, too goofily exploitative for art-house crowds. The plot: a car transporter makes a bet with his dealer (drug dealer, not car dealer) that he can get a new sportscar from Denver to San Francisco in less than 15 hours. That's it. It's a psycho road movie -- he starts getting in more and more trouble with The Man (who don't like speedin'), and gets more and more help from various elements of the underground: hippies, hitchers, Jesus people and soul DJs. Along the way, we discover bit by bit why the guy's so haunted -- and we begin to get the idea he's not going to survive this trip.

Billy Jack - Like Vanishing Point, this is a perfect example of 70s B-movie art. It's a Film With a Message, which involves, like What the Kids Are Talking About and how the Establishment Doesn't Understand the Truth.
It also has a crazy Indian who knows karate kicking corrupt businessmen in the head. And then having vision quests that involve getting intentionally bitten by rattlesnakes. I wrote plenty more about this film over here.

You Can't Take It With You - Frank Capra has this rap of being the ultimate feel-good wishy-washy director, but if you actually watch a few of his films, you start to realize how much of a dirty little subversive he really was. This is one of those movies, about an eccentric old man and his kooky family (in the 50s, they'd be beatniks, but this is the 30s, so no one knows *what* they are) who refuse to sell their property to a conniving developer.
It's incredibly relevant to life today, which is a bit unnerving. It's also got the romance, and a lot of great gags -- but really, like all Capra, it's about the value of independence and the human spirit triumphing over all the crap that society lays on us: greed, politics, conformism, all that jazz.

Night of the Living Dead - I always bring this one up. Like Billy Jack, it's on my favorite favorites list currently (and in all likelihood for some time to come). It's a grisly horror movie that freaked out audiences with its gut-wrenching gore (dead people! eating other people's intestines!) but puts the *true* horror in the context of the way people treat each other under pressure. It's a civil rights parable in horror movie rags. It knows that it's goofy, but it also knows that the goofiness doesn't stop the terror. "They're dead... they're all messed up." So are we, man.

Videodrome - It's a horror movie built around the premise of an unsteady, shifting reality. It doesn't fit any horror conventions. In some ways, I suppose it's "about" television, but it's also about the way we judge things as real or unreal. If you're unfamiliar with this film, it tells the story of a sleazy cable station manager (James Woods, as reptilian as ever) who's shopping for content -- Japanese porn, whatever -- and comes across a bizarre program, showing nothing but plotless sex and violence. He and his too-jaded girlfriend (Deborah Harry of Blondie) are slowly seduced by videotapes of the show, and he discovers the program is a carrier signal for another kind of transmission -- a signal that triggers mutations and tumors in the brain. Along the way, he finds a Cathode Ray Mission, bringing television to the needy, and the secret political machine of a rather sinister optician. By film's end, you have no idea how much of what you're seeing (or what you've seen) is actually a hallucination... which is sort of the whole point.

Being John Malkovich - I'm not sure exactly why, but something about this movie seems very Barbelith to me. I think it's that it's all built around the idea of the fictionsuit, playing games with identity and control and who am I, really? It's whimsical without being fey, and it maintains a bright sense of humor throughout. You're never quite sure what's going to happen next. It's also fun thinking of Charlie Sheen riding around inside John Malkovitch's head.

What's Up Tiger Lily - This was a typical 1960s Japanese spy film that Woody Allen bought the rights to. He wrote entirely new dialogue and re-dubbed the whole thing, making it an entirely new creation -- a hysterically funny, surreal comedy. I first saw this years before Mystery Science Theater 3000 hit the airwaves, so it might play differently to audiences who're used to wiseass commentary played over campy action movies, but still -- it's a trip.

Brazil - I'm not sure I can add anything to what's been said above. Terry Gilliam does a vivid, soaring dream-tapestry dystopia. Incredible imagery, and dark, dark humor. I especially love the way he highlights that terrifying glint that Michael Palin has in his eyes. Yes. He really is a torturer, isn't he.

Sherman's March - I've talked about this one before, I know. Ross McElwee, a mild-mannered Southerner and history buff, gets a grant to make a documentary about General Sherman's historic march to the sea, the hellish campaign that broke the back of the Confederacy. He starts out doing that, but it rapidly turns into Ross McElwee revisiting his ex-girlfriends who happen to live along Sherman's route, trying to figure out what went wrong in their relationships, and why he's been having recurrent dreams about nuclear armageddon. He's hysterically funny, self-deprecating to a fault... except he never turns off his camera. You get to hear his sister's plans for plastic surgery on her rear end, and his old teacher's plots to match him up with just the perfect girl. Michael Moore's in-your-face, this-is-me-and-I'm-making-a-documentary style was essentially cribbed from McElwee -- all he did was add politics, a pinch more obnoxiousness and a whole lot less self-examination. You gotta see this one.
 
  

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