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The darkest place I've ever been to

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13:04 / 27.09.05

If only other topics generated as much interest in the Temple as the Revenge of the Syph...

13:43 / 27.09.05

GL: May start a new thread on that.

Unconditional Love

15:35 / 27.09.05

Those sephira make the cross, at least in the way i look at it, the nessecary firmament for christ consciousness, does make sense when dealing with forgotten ones to be firmly rooted in solar spirits.

Is there a cross correlation between those sephira and the hermetic cross? (forgive the really bad pun), its something ive come into contact with very briefly while reading lon milo duquettes understanding the thoth tarot.

The hexagram being solar centric, lets me put saturn as daath, rather than as i see from duquette binah as saturn.

I am not sure ive made my mind up wether daath is actually an entrance to the shells yet, i think it may be far more beneficial to see it as knowledge that is non dualistic.

20:22 / 27.09.05

I have spent decades entrenching myself in literary filth and horrible shite. Eventually you wake up - life appears as life - not a hats off to every darkside deed perpetrated by those damn fools that evolved from the Simians.

You will have darkside obsessions that you will eventually have to conquer and subdue. I admit I have darkside obsessions from bad sigils I have done and I occassionally invoke sentences of dark books that still shock me.

I have had to change my ways of thinking and use servitors to take away obsessive word viruses, that just cling like a memetic plague.

The best exorcism seems to not just confront these fears but to conquer them.

Breaking the sacred and destroying the sacred as taboo-kleesha smashing may give you an edge of "malamat" but for chaos' sake - we are real people after all. There only seems so far you can go with Aghora.

Nazism is no joke - thousands perished! Child abuse is a horrid thing, you were once a child and children are the future.

Sometimes when we were younger we thought all this nasty shite was a laugh well it isn't. Grow up time.

Don't torture yourself at all with these Dark Glamours. That's not Goetia that is eternal selves-destruction.

I was deeply obsessed with all shit nasty I reckon most of us were in the Eighties with Industrial Culture and Obnoxious Punk Culture.

I'm crying here because I feel sorry for you, if someone abused you when you were young I don't think you would have these obsessions at all.

One day some one will have to time break your obsessions to un-knot the obsessional binds they have given you.

To gaze at the infernal abyss invites only a pallid drop to the infernal depths. Please disassociate yourself and look at yourself from a distance and become reborn.

Can't you see and intuitivley feel that these books have negatively installed you they are indeed a high work of hypersigilised entropy magick.

GET REAL!!!!

08:02 / 28.09.05

Those sephira make the cross, at least in the way i look at it, the nessecary firmament for christ consciousness, does make sense when dealing with forgotten ones to be firmly rooted in solar spirits.

Well the way I see it, those first five Sephira correspond to the first five initiatory grades in the Golden Dawn or A.'.A.'., which correspond to earth, air, fire, water and spirit. The process of moving from "Neophyte" to "Adept" is a process of expressing and balancing these things within yourself. Until you've done that, and are genuinely an Adept in every sense of the word, you're not ready to incorporate and assimilate the Forgotten Ones. According to Nema's book anyway, but I think it makes a lot of sense. Then again, being a lowly probationer in the world of magick, I wouldn't know for sure.

08:58 / 28.09.05

I have spent decades entrenching myself in literary filth and horrible shite.

I am crying because I feel sorry for you. Wait, no I'm not- don't entrench yourself in filth. Next week rocket science as they say.

09:11 / 28.09.05

Nazism is no joke - thousands perished!

10:18 / 28.09.05

Guess I'd better cross 'Holocaust' off my stand-up routine, then.

17:19 / 09.11.05

A quick correction, people. Sypha has PMed me to say that, when I refer to him as "qlipponaut", I am "spreading lies", because a) he has not used the word "qliphoth" in this thread, and b) although he may have compared the qliphoth to the banal nastiness of humanity in the past, he has since shed that perspective.

(Me, I can barely spell this stuff.)

Sypha asserts that, as a result of my actions, many people assumed he was talking about the qliphoth, which was not the case at all - and this ended up making him look bad.

Of all the reasons I think Sypha might "look bad", this is not one which crossed my mind. I apologise unreservedly for suggesting he is a fearless qlipponaut, when I merely think he's a bit of a sad qunt.

18:00 / 09.11.05

Well, I'm glad that's cleared up.

18:25 / 09.11.05

Dark Side, Bright Side, it's all the same.

If you ask me, reading books on serial killers and nazis, and taking a peep on one quasi-pedophilic site is not yeat "taking a walk on the dark sidE" It's taking a quick look from outside... I used to do stuff like this when I was younger, but it turns out it was no more than normal adolescent melancholy. Way over it now.

My thing with the dark side is guilt. Not the feeling you get when you do something that doesn't turn out the way you thought and you wish you din't (that's regret), or the fear and embarassment of being caught (that's shame). No, I mean Guilt, that feeling you get when you didi something that was great to you ,that you got away with, that only brought yoy benefits, but that makes you feel odd, on the acconut someone else might have been hurt. It's a strange feeling I rarely ever get (the last time was six years ago - I won't go into detais, mostly for legal matters), bu, paradoxally, makes me feel like I'm a better person. I mean, if I feel gilty, there must be hope of salvation, right? Right?). Sooo, doing "Evil" made me feel closer o "Goodness".

Go figure...

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18:58 / 09.11.05

I actually agree with that, Megatron. In the past couple of months I've become very attuned to the suffering of others, and have shed much of the "I don't give a shit" attitude I've felt concerning the world as of recent. Now I have to ask myself, "What can I do to ease the suffering of others and make the world a better place"? So, in this aspect I'm glad I explored MY "dark side" (notice I said "my", not "the"... I don't believe I've ever explored the full spectrum of human darkness, only my own little corner). Of course, you could come to that same conclusion without putting yourself through mental torment, but live and learn, 'eh?

19:13 / 09.11.05

One might come to the same conclusion by physically engaging with other people - suffering people. Usefully, if one were to do some part-time voluntary or charitable work, perhaps? Gets one out of the house, too.

I think one's Darqqe Syde is about fear as well as guilt, addressing personal terrors as well as enjoying stuff that negatively affects other people then feeling faintly bad about it. In fact, the guilty stuff might easily become masochistically fetishised and incorporated into the turn-on itself - making it more of a pleasurable, self-indulgent fantasy than anything truly challenging.

20:01 / 09.11.05

Ganesh, you got it right. The wierdest part of that experience of mine is the way I enjoyed feeling guilty. Even today I wonder why is that, but my favorite theory is that guilt is such a rare feeling for me, it was actually something alltogether new. It's not that I'm a sociopath with no concern for others, I have a lot of compassion (which I believe is the only thing the world needs more thereof). It's just that I so rarely do things that I find wrong(In fact, there are very few things I find helplessly wrong), I don't get much oportunities for guilt, and I was kinda happy to know I was capable of feeling it like everybody else.

08:22 / 10.11.05

For the record, I was the one who mentioned qliplop first, I think. And it was based on seeing a post on Sypha's LJ back in September re Sotos/qliplop.

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