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Regrettable Juvenilia
10:52 / 22.08.05
I think it's ethical to eat mutton, so long as what you're eating used to be a sheep.

Not an individual.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
11:08 / 22.08.05
Mutton's very popular in many regions of India, partly because it's often easier, especially in restaurants, not to serve pork or beef so mutton and chicken become much more important.

As I remember, the slight(?) difference in consistency (compared to lamb) works very well in highly spiced regional cuisines, it's quite a gutsy meat, and can take richness.

Eg, Mughlai cooking is very good for mutton recipes, as I remember. Something like this?

A zillion Indian recipes here and here
 
 
William Sack
11:12 / 22.08.05
Mmmmm, might try some of that. But not the "brain fry".
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
11:16 / 22.08.05
mmmm brainssssssss
 
 
Bard: One-Man Humaton Hoedown
11:29 / 22.08.05
Sorry, weaving, missed that. Not a clue what an "Ian Blair" refers to (does England's "top policeman" often ignore parts of reports?), mind.

But yeah.

Meme, thank you. You've helped me decide what to have for lunch. Indian it is.
 
 
Mazarine
11:30 / 22.08.05
I wish I could find mutton around here, but lamb seems to be the exclusively popular sheep meat in the US. Admittedly, I haven't looked very hard. I was impressed by my local grocery store when they had frog legs, though. (I don't think anyone bought any, though.)
 
 
Bard: One-Man Humaton Hoedown
11:33 / 22.08.05
"Heat oil and saute sliced onion over medium fire. When it changes colour add green chillies and ginger. Saute and remove.

In the remaining oil fry chilli powder and it browns add pepper powder. When done add the brain. Sprinkle salt to taste. When it gets hot add the sauted ingredients and stir gently without crumbling the brain. Serve hot."

Oh man...Meme...heh. Heh heh. I know its a serious recipe, but I just plugged in another thousand words or so into my zombie story...so anything involving the word "brains" is almost certain to illicit a giggle for the next few minutes.
 
 
Bard: One-Man Humaton Hoedown
11:35 / 22.08.05
I haven't looked very hard. I was impressed by my local grocery store when they had frog legs, though.

I'm finding that a lot of organic food stores these days, at least the high end ones like Whole Foods, tend to carry frozen frogs legs, as well as frozen boar and venison, as well as rabbit, duck, and goose.

More importantly, these stores often sell cornbread. Mmmm mmm, cornbread. With beans and weiners, the ultimate food.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
11:37 / 22.08.05
See, I'd be quite interested in trying brain, if I weren't a veggie.

I think I have that thing from long years of not eating meat where I don't easily differentiate between meats in terms of squickiness.

Also, coming from a culture where those kinds of distinctions aren't really made, ie when I did meat, I quite happily ate anything.

So I have a hard time understanding the 'eewww' factor. I mean, if one eats livers, fish eggs, frogs legs, why not brains?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
11:54 / 22.08.05
I've eaten lamb's brains, although I probably wouldn't do so now without a very good reason - they're OK. Sort of creamy.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
11:58 / 22.08.05
Salty? Sour? Sharp? Am dead interested in this?
 
 
Smoothly
11:59 / 22.08.05
[tr] Sorry, weaving, missed that. Not a clue what an "Ian Blair" refers to (does England's "top policeman" often ignore parts of reports?), mind.

Sorry, Bard. It was just your defence of shooting healthy innocent creatures in the head as being in some way humane. Made me think Ian Blair could use you as a PR. [/tr]
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
12:01 / 22.08.05
Oh, and in answer to GGM's question:

I mean, if one eats livers, fish eggs, frogs legs, why not brains?

For me, it's primarily for the same reason I don't eat steak tartare - I've tried to avoid eating brains, spinal cord and certain types of offal because I don't believe it's possible with current technology to be entirely confident that they are not incubating nasties. There's also an overlap in the meat I don't eat out of ambivalence at how it is raised... I'd eat frog's legs more happily than beef, f'r example.
 
 
Sax
12:05 / 22.08.05
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
12:07 / 22.08.05
GGM - I had them creamed in a soup with lung (traditional recipe), so picking out individual tastes is tricky. I think brain is generally quite bland. It takes on flavours. Did actually taste a bit like chicken.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
12:10 / 22.08.05
not incubating nasties

Ah, I see. Makes alot of sense, that. I was more querying the general 'eewww' response as being a culturally-conditioned thing.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
12:14 / 22.08.05
Oh, yeah - that is odd. Given what bits of animals British cuisine _will_ eat, any squeamishness on those grounds seems perverse.
 
 
Mazarine
12:16 / 22.08.05
More importantly, these stores often sell cornbread. Mmmm mmm, cornbread. With beans and weiners, the ultimate food.

Ah, you see, I am in the American South, where cornbread is as common as crabgrass. I like it sweet, and with chilli.

My grocery store- which isn't actually organic or anything, it's just the local chain- is pretty ballsy. You can find rabbit, duck, goose, pheasant, quail, pretty much any damn kind of edible bird, really, all the time. Of course, I can't afford most of them, but still, it's nice to know that all I need is a quick financial windfall, and I can go crazy with the cheffing.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
12:17 / 22.08.05
Well yes, a culture that gives rise to the kind of stuff that goes into your average sausage is in a very fragile glass hous on the 'eeww' issue!
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
12:22 / 22.08.05
And I am that fragile glass Haus.

Flybs raises an interesting and worthwhile point. Is it ethical or desirable to eat sheeple? Most of them have had a good life, after all, watchhing reality TV shows, reading Harry Potter and listening to Girls Aloud. Can one say with confidence that eating sheeple is wrong?
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
12:36 / 22.08.05
They tend to be quite fatty, because they only eat McDonalds. Did you know McDonalds is bad for you if you never eat anything else? A man made a film.
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
12:41 / 22.08.05
If the juju had meant us not to eat sheeple, he wouldn't have made us of meat, clearly.
 
 
Mazarine
12:58 / 22.08.05
This is why I love Barbelith. I get such flack for bringing up cannibalism at work.

I would absolutely love to eat sheeple. There's plenty of recipes they'd be great in. I bet I could make a lovely tagine out of someone.
 
 
bjacques
13:01 / 22.08.05
Help is on the way for veggies who 'd eat meat if it weren't for the ethics, or carnivores who have to wash away guilt pangs with a bottle of good red. All that research into stem cells and nanotubes may soon pay off in the food department. Stem cells can be trained to grow into muscle cells, for the tenderest veal imaginable, supported on racks of nanotube. For example. It will be awhile before the stuff can be sold competitively, but you can probably get it at Fresh Fields or Marks & Spencer, e.g.

- Oysters Kassel for the German market

- certified CJD-free human brains

- Woolly mammoth steak cloned from frozen mammoth

- and...mmm...chimera scratchings.
 
 
Not Here Still
13:09 / 22.08.05
Apologies for this in advance...

Help is on the way for veggies who 'd eat meat if it weren't for the ethics

Whath Romford got do wiv it?
 
 
Bard: One-Man Humaton Hoedown
13:26 / 22.08.05
Sorry, Bard. It was just your defence of shooting healthy innocent creatures in the head as being in some way humane. Made me think Ian Blair could use you as a PR.

Ouch, man. Just...ouch.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
13:29 / 22.08.05
Well, at least that way _some_ good would have come out of this tragic, tragic blunder.
 
 
Bard: One-Man Humaton Hoedown
13:29 / 22.08.05
chimera scratchings.

Bird, cat, goat, and snake, all in one meal. I tell you, chimera's the way to go!

C'mon, don't YOU want to try such glorious combinations as mouse-squid-pidgeon, or the wonderful gastronomique delight of boar-deer-elk-bison-ox-squid. Remember, children, all cthuloid chimerical combiantions MUST include squid. For the rubber.
 
 
Lord Morgue
13:53 / 22.08.05
I found brains to be quite rich, like marrow. Then again, they also gave me food poisoning. Lamb's fry is good. Even after seeing the homicidal reanimated variety in "Dead Heat".
And hey- Turkey Spam. If Spam is Spiced Ham, shouldn't Turkey Spam be Spurkey?
God, I'd like to try haggis.
 
 
bjacques
13:28 / 23.08.05
I had some in Edinburgh, at a restaurant that's supposed to be famous for it. (They all say that, I guess.) It was pretty good, with neeps and tatties, but I expected something more spectacular. I suspect it came out of a can.
 
 
Lord Morgue
13:34 / 23.08.05
I had an Ulster Fry at the local Gaelic Club- sausage, egg, pancake, bacon, tomato, toast, black pudding (pig's blood) and white pudding (lamb's brains). Ooh yeah.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
15:24 / 23.08.05
oof. This thread is starting to make me feel queasy. Soo much meat.
 
 
bitchiekittie
15:39 / 23.08.05
*I like rack of lamb, though I can rarely afford it. it's definitely one of my top five favorites.
*all types of seafood - crab (had some for dinner last night), shrimp and lobster being my favorites, by themselves or with other ingredients. I eat most shellfish, in fact, except for scallops, which taste nice enough but cause an allergic reaction of SICK.
*I love most fish prepared in most ways - sushi, sashimi, fried ocean perch or catfish, broiled orange roughy or salmon, a nice pan seared tuna. mmmm. and other than the fried varieties, I prefer them with little seasonings and no dressings.
*I love a good steak, particularly a good NY strip, rare.
beef or pork ribs prepared with a sweet, spicy rub and cooked on a grill.
*roma italian sausage, boiled and served in its casing on potato bread, or loose in pasta.
*ostrowski's kielbasa, all by its lonesome!
*mm, lamb souvlaki, served with pita and a squirt of fresh lemon!
*crispy fried chicken! I like mine best - just flour and a bunch of old bay seasoning coating dark meat chicken.

I could go on all day. but it's lunchtime, I'm off.
 
 
Billuccho!
17:25 / 23.08.05
Mmm. Sponkey.
 
 
lekvar
17:56 / 23.08.05
Sally, if you're looking for muton, I'd suggest checking out any local Afghani markets you might have in your area. All of the Afghanis I know are mad for mutton.

As for long pig/sheeple-
Back in the 80's I read an article that suggested the reason we as a species made it as far as we have without claws or fangs or spikes or spines is that we taste really really bad, like spoiled pork. If free-range human tastes bad, I can't imagine that the diet of the average sheeple would improve that flavor much.
 
  

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