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Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince (SPOILERS)

 
  

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ONLY NICE THINGS
06:34 / 19.07.05
Oh, yes. You don't want to drink felix felicis all the time because it leads to overconfidence...

Of course it fucking does. You already know that you're going to be lucky.

The idea of liquid luck is, I fear, an absolute shoo-in for Harry Potter and the Ounce of Sense.

On pacing... I can see that, to an extent. We're not getting the descriptions of every single thing that happens, day-by-day, as we did in GoF and OotP. I read this one overnight, rather than having to go through it in bite-sized chunks of tedium. I think I would have liked less Hogwarts detail generally; the OotP, diabolical book though it was, actally introduced quite an interesting idea - a group of elite wizards acting independently of the increasingly ineffectual Ministry against Voldemort - which is pretty much thrown away. This may be affected by the way I find that, decently written, most of the OotP are more interesting than Harry and Ron. If there is a quest narrative to be had in the final book, let's have meaty parts for Remus and Tonks - like Jack, I'm seeing Rowling bumping up hard against the limitations of the school story in what is increasingly becoming a world of operatic relationships and consequences.

On the disappointment of the final battle... I dunno: again, I would have liked to have seen a higher bodycount (prune Gryffindor!), but the combination of a small population of wizards and the easy access to healing for almost any injury is presumbaly intended to make death far _more_ shocking for the wizard population. Unfortunately, this does make the evil seem a bit pussy - it seems that you could not only count all Voldemort's victims, but also name them.

The Prime Minister bit at the front I found overlong, but I did quite like the inclusion of the non-magic world, especially in the context of muggles being soft targets - another TWAT reference, along with the useless advice leaflets sent out; something that is touched on repeatedly is that the wizarding world, however picturesque it may be, is socially and politically backwards - run by venal and ineffectual men. I'd like to learn more about the Aurors - we know Harry wants to be one, but why? What have they actually achieved?
 
 
nedrichards is confused
09:48 / 19.07.05
The Ministry of Magic seems optimised for dealing with Del Boy and in fact rather good at that, anything bigger or more serious seems rather a trial.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
14:11 / 19.07.05
You don't want to drink felix felicis all the time because it leads to overconfidence...

It's nice to know that her riches have confirmed Rowling's sense that cocaine is her favourite drug.
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
15:37 / 19.07.05
Haus, I believe the Aurors were responsible for locking up all those Death Eaters the first time around. Sort of the elite commandos of the Ministry.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
15:55 / 19.07.05
Yes, yes, but that was then, whereas the Ministry of Magic is, as we have established, now t3h sux0r. I would go further and say that the Aurors are also t3h sux0r, since the most able combat wizards seem to have thrown their lot in either with the Order of the Phoenix or the Death Eaters. See how little threat the new crop pose to Dumbledore... or indeed to Voldemort.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
16:17 / 19.07.05
the combination of a small population of wizards and the easy access to healing for almost any injury is presumbaly intended to make death far _more_ shocking for the wizard population. Unfortunately, this does make the evil seem a bit pussy

Yup. This is where we bump up against the limiations of Rowling's abilities, I think.

It would be possible, I think, to convey the insularity and claustrophobia of the wizarding world in such a way as to make the death of someone 'we' know as shocking to us as it is likely to be for the wizarding population. R can't do it. (Also, if she'd been able to give previous character development to the characters who die, that'd've been nice. See Amelia Bones, ffs.)

Haus, I suspect I'm wish-fulfilling/fan-ficcing here, but isn't a sense in which characters like Amelia Bones stand for the 'middle ground'. In fact, I think alot more could have been done with her as a figure who is neither a member of the order, nor a Death Eater. As far as we know, she doesn't pick sides, but is highly capable. Which is why I'd've liked to have seen more of her.
 
 
nedrichards is confused
16:20 / 19.07.05
So we're talking about the breakdown of state power and the increasing influence of NGOs? I'm also slightly interested as t why there aren't really any wizarding multinationals, seems to me partly to do with the lack of available capital and cheap credit. After all, when you're having to sponge loans off a 15 year old to set up a shop there's something wrong with your banking system.

Thus, Gringotts is the real Big Bad.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
16:21 / 19.07.05
See how little threat Dawlish poses to Dumbledore...

Not quite fair. Dumbledore is, at this point in proceedings, still considered pretty much unbeatable(all that 'the only wizard Voldy ever feared' bumph.) and, more importantly, has already planned for the situation he finds himself in with Dawlish/Fudge etc. *and* has Kingsley on board for backup.

In that book, he later duels with Voldemort/picks off the Death Eaters pretty easily(when he finally gets around to arriving) so is concieved as pretty all-around hard.
 
 
fuckbaked
17:20 / 19.07.05
Snape is evil. Get over it. I can’t believe how many of you think that, despite the fact that he killed Dumbledore, he’s not an evil asshole. I’ve always known that he was still an evil death eater, and that he was just biding his time before showing his true colors. Well, he’s done it. He’s evil.

I can’t believe Dumbledore is dead. I cried for hours, even though I knew it would happen. No one spoiled it for me, but after I read about his dead, black hand, I knew he was a goner. Rowling seems to take pleasure in killing off my favorite characters. I was in love with Sirius, and of course she killed him off last time around. And now she’s killed off Dumbledore, once he’s finally started filling Harry in on what’s going on (it was fucking stupid when he was keeping so many secrets from Harry. I mean, he’s the fucking Chosen One. He needs to kill Voldemort, and you want to keep info from him because he’s too young? wtf?).

One thing I’m curious about concerning the next book is if Harry, Ron, and Hermione will be made full members of the Order of the Phoenix. I remember back in the 5th book how they were not allowing the kids to attend meetings. Those kids obviously need to know what’s going on. I’m also extremely curious about what those kids are going to be doing if they’re not going to be in school. I’m excited. And I can’t believe that Harry, who wanted to be an auror, is giving up on school. Or maybe he isn’t. Maybe he’ll go and kill Voldemort and all his horcruxes, and then return to school to finish his education. I hope he does. Of course, once he’s killed Voldemort and all his horcruxes, there won’t be much for Rowling to write about anymore.

Those kids are way too naïve about sex. Harry needs to start jacking off, at the very least, and Luna needs to be queer. Or at least, someone needs to be queer. I wanted it to be Dumbledore, especially after Harry saw him wearing a flamboyant plum suit in one of the memories, but now that he’s dead I don’t think there’s much of a chance that we’ll see him snogging Kingsley Shaklebolt, or whoever. Luna reminds me of myself, so I think it would be really cool if she were queer.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
18:15 / 19.07.05
Snape is evil. Get over it. I can’t believe how many of you think that, despite the fact that he killed Dumbledore, he’s not an evil asshole. I’ve always known that he was still an evil death eater, and that he was just biding his time before showing his true colors. Well, he’s done it. He’s evil.

He's so not evil. Get over it. There's so many clues, from his and Dumbstein's argument that Hagrid overheard to his admonishment to Harry at the gate. D clearly wanted Snape to kill him as he's the ONLY chance the OotP has to get a handle on the missing horcruxes. Prediction: Harry will be getting anonymous tips next book on where to find the horcruxes, there will be much assumption that it's Regulus Black but in reality it will be Snape, finally redeeming himself. And Harry gets everyone's portraits together for his birthday since Snape is so totally going to die destroying the final horcrux for Harry.
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
19:36 / 19.07.05
The Unbreakable Vow he took at the beginning compelled him to either kill Dumbledore when Malfoy couldn’t or else Snape would die himself. When Dumbledore was pleading “Snape, no, don’t...” he was telling Snape NOT to sacrifice himself for Dumbledore. That seems like a Dumbledore kind of thing to do. Snape’s scowl was the Vow coming into effect. He literally had no choice. And Dumbledore didn’t want him to die.

I’m guessing that Dumbledore impressed upon him the absolute need and value of Snape staying undercover. That he was told to do whatever he had to not to be found out. He DID hesitate when they asked him to make the Unbreakable Vow, which shows me that he isn’t a willing Death Eater, but knew he had to do it. And knew what it would eventually mean, leading to his argument with Dumbledore.

Dumbledore can’t be wrong about Snape. Just for the sheer fact that Dumbledore’s reason for trusting him is still secret, I believe it to be an absolutely iron-clad reason. This will be a big revelation next book.

And yeah, Snape is going to die saving/helping Harry for sure.
 
 
Baz Auckland
21:36 / 19.07.05
...the big possible proof for the 'Snape is good' argument is that Dumbledore never says 'don't'. He says 'Severus...please....' but not 'Severus... please don't...'
 
 
Tryphena Absent
22:24 / 19.07.05
Oh god stop it. I shouldn't have to lose hope for at least two years.
 
 
fuckbaked
01:57 / 20.07.05
Benjamin said: ”D clearly wanted Snape to kill him as he's the ONLY chance the OotP has to get a handle on the missing horcruxes.”

Ok, so up to this point, Dumbledore has found information on several of the horcruxes and passed it to Harry. Snape has given Harry no information on horcruxes. It would seem that Dumbledore would continue to find info on horcruxes. Would Snape? Maybe he would. But I don’t see why leaving Hogwarts and joining the death eaters would help him do this. Voldemort already thought that Snape was on his side, and I don’t really see why Snape would be more likely to get info out of Voldemort after killing Dumbledore. Also, it would be a lot easier for Snape to get info to Harry if they’re in the same castle and seeing each other every day. Now that Snape’ll be out there hiding with death eaters, he’s going to have to find excuses to get away from the other death eaters to go send an owl to Harry with info. And owls get searched, whereas conversations that happen in the castle are more likely to be private.

Keith said: ”The Unbreakable Vow he took at the beginning compelled him to either kill Dumbledore when Malfoy couldn’t or else Snape would die himself.”

And why exactly did Snape make this unbreakable vow? Voldemort wants Snape to continue working at Hogwarts so that he can feed him info on Harry. Nobody knew until the end of the book that Harry wouldn’t be returning to Hogwarts for the next year. Voldemort thought he could be getting another whole year of info about Harry from Snape if Snape were to stay at Hogwarts, and considering what sorts of info Snape had probably already gotten (I mean, geez, he saw into Harry’s mind in HPATOOTP), I’d imagine that Voldemort would really want Snape to stay at Hogwarts. It would have been pretty easy for Snape to convince Draco’s mom of this. And he could have offered to help Draco in other ways. He knows a lot about the dark arts, so why didn’t he offer to help Draco, say, send cursed/poisioned stuff to Dumbledore more effectively? Ya know, so that Draco doesn’t fuck up and curse people on the Griffendor quiddich team in his attempts to get to Dumbledore? And he could have offered to give him lessons in how to be more evil. All he had to do was to say that Voldemort would not want him to kill Dumbledore, because he wanted Snape to remain in the castle. Draco’s mom told Snape that she thought that he should be the one to kill Dumbledore before Snape offered to help. He should have known what was coming, and if he didn’t, he could have stopped things without making that vow. If Voldemort had asked Snape to kill Dumbledore, it would be a different situation, but this is just Draco’s mom. Snape’s not supposed to be answering to her, if he’s a death eater, but to Voldemort.

And ya know, I think it would have been better for the cause for Snape to just die. Dumbledore is a more powerful wizard than Snape (and you know he wouldn’t have died if he hadn’t been weakened by that stupid potion from the cave), and he was on very good terms with Harry, which meant he could work with Harry and help him work out how he was going to beat Voldemort. Harry isn’t going to get that help from Snape. And, ya know, Snape can no longer avoid doing evil things by saying he needs to remain in Dumbledore’s favor to keep the job at Hogwarts. He’s going to be a regular death eater now, which means he’s going to be killing people, and torturing them, and doing all that horrible shit that death eaters do. Even if he’s sending info to Harry, he’ll still have to act like a death eater, which could mean doing things like, oh, killing Harry’s friends, or killing members of the order of the phoenix. Is that really good for the cause? Is it? As long as Snape remained at Hogwarts, he could spy on Voldemort without having to do anything awful.

Keith said: ”Just for the sheer fact that Dumbledore’s reason for trusting him is still secret, I believe it to be an absolutely iron-clad reason.”

Is it a secret? According to Dumbledore, “You have no idea of the remorse Professor Snape felt when he realized how Lord Volemort had interpreted the prophecy, Harry. I believe it to be the greatest regret of his life and the reason that he returned—“. But really, why would a death eater feel remorse for getting Harry’s parents killed? I mean, being a death eater is rather synonymous with being a fucking murderer, and surely Snape knew what he was getting into when he decided to become one. And why would Snape care about Harry’s parents? As Lupin explained, later in the book, “Snape hated James….” And ya know what I think? I think that if Snape were sorry about getting Harry’s parents killed, he wouldn’t have treated Harry like shit from the start and always looked for the worst in him.

Keith said: ”Dumbledore can’t be wrong about Snape.”

Really? None of the characters in the book are perfect, even Dumbledore.

Keith said: ”[Snape] knew he had to do it [kill Dumbledore]. And knew what it would eventually mean, leading to his argument with Dumbledore.”

I remember that argument, but I can’t find where it was in the book. Do you know what chapter it was in? Anyway, if I recall correctly, we didn’t know exactly what they were arguing about. I’ll admit that I speculated the same thing that you did about that argument, but there are other possibilities. I really want to find that argument and read it again before I comment on this.

Ok, so I’m not 100% convinced that Snape is evil, but I’m pretty damn convinced. The only thing that really makes me wonder is that argument that I can’t seem to find again.
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
12:14 / 20.07.05
Hagrid tells Harry about the argument when they go down to see him at some point. It's the scene where Hagrid is mad at the kids, I believe. Or the Aragog funeral.

Anyway... just a couple of things.

I'm not saying Dumbledore is always right and perfect. Just saying that since he died believing that Snape was still good, this suggests to me that there is something going below the obvious "Snape kill Dumbledore therefore he is eeeevil!" It's just not Rowling's way of writing or developing characters.

And yes, Dumbledore's reason for trusting Snape is suggested to be much more than his simple regret. Everyone notes at the end that Dumbledore never told anyone. Harry asks him point blank at one time, and Dumbledore says something to the effect that it's iron clad and he cannot reveal it.

And who's to say that Snape wasn't the one feeding Horcrux info to Dumbledore the entire time? The cave, the ring, etc. This could have all been tip-offs.

The climactic scene is going to go the way of Return of the Jedi. Emperor Voldemort will be laying the smack down on Harry Skywalker, as Darth Snape watches. Then Darth Snape will finally prove that he is indeed good, and throw Emperor Voldemort down while he is unawares. Darth Snape then dies.

Of course, all the motivations will be different, but you know.

The Snape plot is the Sirius Black plot on a much larger scale.
 
 
Baz Auckland
12:28 / 20.07.05
...for some reason it never occured to me that Draco was to kill Dumbledore. I assumed his mission was to kill Potter for some reason.

I'm hoping Snape is good... it was a big let-down to have him running off all evil and whatnot at the end...
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
13:03 / 20.07.05
The Snape plot is the Sirius Black plot on a much larger scale

Yep, this is one of the things I like about developments in book 6. (confessing my bias as a massive Snape/Sirius shipper, I like anything that brings out the parallels/complemnts. See also the Black family continuing to be central to events via Narcissa and Bellatrix, and latterly, Regulus)
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
06:59 / 21.07.05
Woohoo! I'd say 'best Rowling book yet' but I'm not sure if that's a great compliment. I think a lot of the greatness comes from the fact that, depending on your perspective, she either doesn't write a book where the characters are effectively kicking their heels for a year, or she's finally got the hang of disguising that the characters are kicking their heels for a year. Although I liked OotP some, I was aggravated by the way it opened with a shower of problems and issues that weren't even brought up in the lengthy ending to book four: Ministry resistance, Dumbledore not wanting to hang around with Harry which, while valid storylines, seemed dropped in because Rowling needed to delay things a year. By having Dumbledore/Harry lessons that either means stuff is progressing or, if you want to be cynical, Rowling has worked out how to disguise the fact things aren't progressing still.

Dumbledore's funeral = strangely moving.

But what I found odd was that the Order of the Phoenix seem to have shut down. In the last book, we continually heard in dispatches of Dumbledore sending people on little quests, Hagrid to the Giants for example. Although he's clearly not telling Harry everything, this year they didn't seem to be doing anything, as though they were waiting for the inevitable.

Did we know Snape was a mudblood? My copy of OotP is at the bottom of a big pile of books, but did Sirius and James tease Snape about his non-pure origins? Because if it's never been revealed before then that's what's known as a cheat, where we can't come to the right decision because we're not given the facts.

On the issue of whether Snape is good or evil, what reason has he to be good? The first time Voldemort popped his clogs, a lot of Death Eaters claimed to be under the influence, but from all we've seen and heard in the books, there is no reason why Snape shouldn't have replaced a teenage lust/hatred for James and Sirius with more reasonable lust for power so no man or woman will ever turn him down again. And Dumbledore is not always right. Isn't that the point of the end of 'OotP'?

What is odd is the moment when Snape kills Dumbledore. I'm not sure if that's deliberate on Rowling's part or her getting caried away again.

For the first time, Dumbledore was pleading.

Now, I think that was Rowling trying to sell us on the seriousness of the moment. If Snape really is Dumbledore's man then I expect it will be tried to argue that this was all Dumbledore acting to sell the assembled Death Eaters that Snape really is one of them.

Chapter Two is the best thing that Rowling has ever written.

Tonks/Lupin. Where did this come from? It reads a bit to me how in the Buffyverse, Willow and Tara got back together just in time for Tara to be shot, or Giles and the teacher he fancied, just in time for Angelus to snap her neck, or Wesley and Fred... One of them is going to be wearing a red top next book and talking about how 'when the wars over, I'm getting married...'

Anyone remember 'Dark Skies', trying to cash in on the 'X-Files' conspiracy telly market in the mid 90s? It didn't work because, at the end of the pilot episode, our heroes leave the big secret organisation to go and fight the alien conspiracy on their own with no resources. It was just daft. Although Harry has Sirius's place, a pile of cash and a load of friends and the remains of the Order, I'm not sure they have the chops to find either the latest MacGuffin (although in my experience wizards in stories tended to hide their enchanted shinbones in trees, so they should perhaps chop down the old forest) or prepare to confront Voldemort. Unless the portrait of Dumbledore is able to advise them, I don't see Harry as being bright enough to know what has to be done. I did chuckle when Snape killed Dumbledore, after all Harry has spent five and a half years irrationally convinced Snape is evil, he's proved right AT LAST!

Goodness Gracious Meme As pointed out above, she's finally done the slightest bit of character stuff with Malfoy, Voldemort, Dumbledore etc.

Thank God she finally found a use for Malfoy, as I was sick and tired of the character previously. But in many ways the most important characters in this book, Malfoy, Voldemort/Riddle and Snape, are all important by the vast sections of the book when they are absent. It's good to see that Rowling is still keeping her prejudices alive, if you've got bad parents then they will pass on the bad gene to you and you'll be evil and may well have bad skin too. All the other houses choose people on their inner attributes, Slytherin seem to choose people based on their poor skin hygiene (although they're probably spotty because of the oil that's exuded from their dark hearts).

While the first chapter was overlong and self-satisfied, did people really have no fun looking out for the parellels between the magical world and our War on Terror? The leaflets telling people what to do in case of a Death Eater attack, priceless!

fuckbaked Harry needs to start jacking off, at the very least, and Luna needs to be queer. Or at least, someone needs to be queer.

Aaaah, so this is why I don't read slash. I really, rilly don't want to think of Harry's face, contorted in the throes of... ugh god. I'm glad that there isn't anyone noticeably queer in the Rowlingverse, what with the sterling work she's done in the name of tokenism in the books with Cho Chang and the bloody Patil twins (who I'm sure would make wonderful shop girls at Fred and George's Hogsmead branch of their joke shop), best to leave aside that whole area.

Luna reminds me of myself, so I think it would be really cool if she were queer.

TMI. Still, why not write a Mary-Sue where you visit Hogwarts and sex her up?

Benjamin: Richardson Acolyte D clearly wanted Snape to kill him as he's the ONLY chance the OotP has to get a handle on the missing horcruxes.

Then I feel I must quote that known bastion of wisdom, Colonel Jack O'Neill.

Jack: Does anyone have a plan?
Anonymous Tok'ra Bloke: We die.
Jack: Okay, does anyone have a good plan?

Harry might be The Boy Who Lived and The One Who Might Kill Voldemort but he's also the Boy Without an Ounce of Common Sense and The One Who Has no Resources. Dumbledore found Macguffin-finding extremely difficult, he's a lot smarter than Harry, so unless Harry's going to be drawn to them thanks to his psychic link to Voldemort... ooooh for fuck's sake, surely not?

Keith you're breaking my heart It's just not Rowling's way of writing or developing characters.

She developes characters? Sorry, cheap shot.
 
 
fuckbaked
09:21 / 21.07.05
Our fifty-first century lady said: "It's good to see that Rowling is still keeping her prejudices alive, if you've got bad parents then they will pass on the bad gene to you and you'll be evil and may well have bad skin too."

Rowling does this to an extent, what with families like the Weasleys (none of whom are evil), but there are families in her books that are exceptions to this. Sirius, for example, came from an evil family of death eaters. Harry's aunt is a fuckbake, and do remember that Harry's aunt and Harry's mom have the same parents, yet they turned out differently. Even Malfoy, both of whose parents are death eaters, doesn't seem to be as evil as either of them. He was being forced to kill Dumbledore by Voldemort, who would kill him if he didn't, and when it finally came time to do it, he couldn't. Malfoy would rather die than see Dumbledore killed, and really I don't think he's going to make a very good death eater.

"I'm glad that there isn't anyone noticeably queer in the Rowlingverse, what with the sterling work she's done in the name of tokenism in the books with Cho Chang and the bloody Patil twins (who I'm sure would make wonderful shop girls at Fred and George's Hogsmead branch of their joke shop), best to leave aside that whole area."

Well, yeah, I want her to make someone queer, and to not make them a token. Someone like Luna. She's not exactly token lesbian material.

I said: "Luna reminds me of myself, so I think it would be really cool if she were queer."

and OFFCL said: "TMI. Still, why not write a Mary-Sue where you visit Hogwarts and sex her up?"

Why is this TMI? Luna reminds me of myself because she's weird, and she's really honest and says stuff that you're not supposed to say, like when she said she enjoyed the D.A. meetings because "It was like having friends." I think it would be neat if, like me, Luna were queer. I'm not saying I want to have sex with her, because I don't. Even if I did, I'm a guy, so doing that wouldn't help establish her as queer.

Something I've been confused about is why Dumbledore immobilized Harry at the start of the encounter with Malfoy and the death eaters. What good does it do to have Harry unable to fight? He could have totally fucked up all those death eaters. And if they'd found him immobilized under his cloak, he'd have been a sitting duck for whatever they wanted to do to him. It was pretty likely that they would find him, since there were 2 brooms on the tower. Why didn't anyone realize that Dumbledore wasn't alone? Malfoy knows that Harry has an invisibility cloak, and Snape surely knows also. This sort of makes me think that Dumbledore knew what was coming, and that he wanted to just get it over with and die, rather than having Harry hang all the death eaters upside down from the ceiling so that they could all later be arrested, which would mean sending Snape to jail.

Despite this, I still think that Snape's evil, even if Dumbledore never figured it out. More later, because I'm running out of battery.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
14:41 / 21.07.05
Ginormous JK entrevista (and this is only part 2) with some very interesting things being said. She's certainly playing it like Snape's evil, but the very fact that she can't say for certain means there's a chance. But from the way she talks about it and, most importantly, from the textual evidence, I still stand by my position. There have been many other instances of Dumbledore's overarching faith in the good of humanity getting people in trouble.

Most intresting, though, is her mention that we've read the very last Quiddich match she'll ever write. What this means for Hogwarts is unknown, but still, looking at a whole other ball of wax in Book 7. Good interview overall, even dwelling on this whole "shipping" phenomenon you all seem so concerned about. (Do you think there's a site dedicated to "shipping" and "shippers" and it's called The Shipping News? To the Google-O-Ometer!)
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
16:48 / 21.07.05
And anyone that does anybody/Malfoy slash is just wrong!
 
 
semioticrobotic
16:53 / 21.07.05
Okay, as someone from the States, I have to ask:

What is snogging, exactly? And how is it used as part of common parlance?

And what is a shipper?
 
 
semioticrobotic
16:55 / 21.07.05
As an addendum to my snogging question:

It appears the verb can take an object (you can snog someone) or not (you can just snog). As a gerund, it can stand alone ("snogging is good"). They don't "make out" or "hook up" -- they "snog?"
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
16:59 / 21.07.05
thanks Birdie, for that link. What a thoroughly interesting interview. And, there is still tons to come.

like you, i'm still firm in my Snape Is Good theory, but she IS certainly suggesting otherwise in the interview.

she dishes out a lot of info...
 
 
Tryphena Absent
17:48 / 21.07.05
I don't see Harry as being bright enough to know what has to be done.

But Hermione would have known what to do in the first year, that's clearly why she exists, so she can find out about the horcruxes. Harry can find them and Ron can tactically decide how to get hold of them once they've found them. Why else would Dumbledore have told Harry to let them in on their meetings? They're clearly going to have to do all the real work because Harry's too dumb.
 
 
Jack Fear
19:27 / 21.07.05
Snog = kiss (both noun and verb).

Shipper = fan (esp a writer or reader of fan fiction) who assumes intercharacter romantic and/or sexual relationships that are not explicit in the text; these assumptions tend to be based on approximately equal parts innuendo, textual deconstruction, and wishful thinking.
 
 
uncle retrospective
10:26 / 22.07.05
I don't think the next book is going to be the hunt for Lord V's soul. It will be a hunt for the person who has alread found most of the fragments.
 
 
semioticrobotic
14:22 / 22.07.05
Ha! Thanks, Jack Fear. It (the novel and surrounding Web commentary), makes so much more sense now.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
19:39 / 22.07.05
Then the hunt for the keeper of Voldie's soul.
 
 
Jack Fear
21:20 / 22.07.05
You say to-may-toe...
 
 
Lama glama
23:07 / 22.07.05
Oh, JKR will find a way to make it take place in and around Hogwarts

Who's up for "Harry Potter and the Hogwarts Horcruxes?"

I really hope that she will call the book something along those lines, or at least include the word "Horcrux" in the title-just so I can see uncomfortable newsreaders struggling with the word.

Ms. Rowling probably won't jettison Hogwarts, but I'm sure that a lot of the book will be set off-campus, searching for the Horcruxes. Lordy, a wave of numbing realisation has just washed over me- she'll probably set it up so that the Horcruxes are in bloody Hogwarts.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
02:05 / 23.07.05
It was I who invented them- I, the Half-Blood Prince
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
02:17 / 23.07.05
she'll probably set it up so that the Horcruxes are in bloody Hogwarts.

Arrrrrgggggh. I fear you may be right. I fear this more than a book 7 completely comprised of Quidditch.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
02:19 / 23.07.05
assumptions tend to be based on approximately equal parts innuendo, textual deconstruction, and wishful thinking.

Not sure I'd agree with this caricature, but I'm not in any way the best person round here to refute it. If no-one else does, I may have a go, but I'm aware that Jack has discuused this with far more articulate and knowledgeable people than me.
 
 
Mistoffelees
09:02 / 23.07.05
she'll probably set it up so that the Horcruxes are in bloody Hogwarts.

No, I don´t think so, and there´s no need to. Hermione, Ron and Harry can disapparate now. So, if they figure out a horcrux location, they can just leave the Hogwarts grounds and then teleport off.

And Hogwarts is history now, anyway. Hermione, Ron and Harry having classes and doing their dating and quidditch stuff in the last book seems ridiculous, if their first priority is defeating Harry´s nemesis.

Rowling already said, there will be no more quidditch in Book seven, so that too sounds, as if Hogwarts will take a back seat.
 
  

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