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wow haus, first you ridicule my observations and then contort yourself better than elasticgirl in order to defend the film.
No, you twit. I demonstrate that sufficiently powerful desires can interpret a film in a wildly divergent style. Mine was a parody of a left-wing reading, yours a deadly-serious right-wing reading. The difference being that I am joking. I was taking the piss out of your ill-thought out, inconsistent and self-serving interpretation. The fact that you did not understand this is probably because you cannot believe that anyone could possibly take you less than utterly seriously. This may change over time, but it will take human contact.
joking never mind that the last part of your interpretation relies on an assumption that will take four years to prove, do you honestly think most people are going to get your interpretation on the first seating or ever?
See above.
Because for most people, that part where syndrome goes on about how he made his fortune is easily associable to right now as well as hits the fear button for most people.
No, for you. That's all. I very much doubt you have talked to "most people" about it. Those you have talked to about it may have agreed with you in the hope that you will go away. You may note, for example, that Syndrome *is an industrialist*, *is a billionaire*, *is American*, *is not a Muslim*... your reading is utterly inadequate.
and what about elastigirl, elastigirl is a title that for all retro-ness aside is a little derogatory, how old does she need to be, until she is considered a woman?
You're getting desperate. Also, is Elastigirl called Elastigirl by anyone not referring to her previous career (e.g. Syndrome) after the 15-years-earlier set-up? I don't think she is... In that scene, she is presumably somewhere in her early to mid 20s, and she identifies *herself* as Elastigirl. Are you saying that she is not allowed to define herself? That you get to decide when a woman cannot think of herself as a "girl"? Fascist.
the problem with the film is that it uses stereotypes to such a level that it’s insulting. minorities are so marginalized it is ridiculous. look at the cops all young and white, you’re telling me in a metropolitan area there aren’t any black or brown, yellow or red cops.
Red? You mean, Native American? Are you, by any chance, a nutter? There is a possible argument here, for example that computer animation makes it easier to create homogeneous environments, but you're not making it coherently.
I couldn’t really feel for mr. incredible, especially after he had thrown his boss through three walls just because he could not maintain his composure.
Fair enough. People who harm Wallace Shawn are indeed not to be associated with. But that is a criticism of the film, rather than its politics, and also one based on the idea thatthe film takes place in an entirely realistic world. It does not. That is a metaphorical representation using the free physics of the Incredibles' universe of Mr. Incredible's mid-life crisis. Think of it as like American Beauty, which, you may wish to note, had not a black character to be found.
And again why do the super people go into hiding? Cause of those pesky trial lawyers. Now come on, if that was not a republican message you weren’t paying attention in 2004, remember John Edwards is a trial lawyer and they tried to make it seem like it was his fault health care is so expensive never mind the medical industry and millions of dollars and lobbyist right.
When was the script of the Invisibles written? When was it pitched? I imagine rather before the election. Probably before the New Hampshire primary. Before which, just so you know, the litigious nature of American society was already being satirised. I was present for 2004, thanks; you appear to have missed the previous two decades.
what I saw with mirage was a character of latin american origin being beautiful and seducing, thats what I got, I admit its not quite as blatant as the cool black guy stereotype but there it is.
Yes. And you are wrong. Again, Mirage has white hair and green eyes. Your assumption that she is Latina is based on nothing other than your racist assumption that Elizabeth Pena cannot voice anything other than Latina characters. The Simpsons must confuse the bollocks out of you.
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