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The Avengers

 
  

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LDones
19:10 / 04.07.04
Shown actual size, no less.
 
 
Triplets
19:48 / 04.07.04
Who's that last guy. Lab-man? Persil-man? Elijah Snow?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
20:16 / 04.07.04
I was wondering that myself... Hank Pym or Bruce Banner, maybe?
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
17:27 / 05.07.04
It's Hank Pym, aka the Best Character In The Avengers.
 
 
bio k9
19:37 / 05.07.04
The Best Character In The Avengers is Jarvis.
 
 
The Falcon
23:46 / 07.07.04
Probably.

Dr. Strange?!! Are you crazy? No way. He's all ethereal and shit - I guess you could play it like the Doc in The Authority, but it's not really proper.

I've been looking forward to this for ages, actually; Finch's art is absolute studio slick-sheen and aksheeun. Boom! Twice - good for emphasis, I think.

I think Marvel may well dick around with a 'big 7' team for a while; you can see Bendo doing this a bit in the nice Secret War shenanigan. In fact that shapes up pretty sweet for big 7 status: Spidey, Daredevil, Wolverine, Fury, Black Widow, Cage and - of course - Cap. Token bird and ethnic minority characters included.

Bendis is like AC/DC to me; it's all kinda similar, but you want to hear the new stuff anyway. This could well be his 'Ballbreaker'. And it's a bit tough to get a critical angle on him.

Lastly - Scott Lang had to die after his shagging shame, exposed in the hand-crafted paparazzi pages of Alias #17.
 
 
Rawk'n'Roll
10:22 / 08.07.04
All of Grant's talk about Seven Soldiers (in the popimage interview) have really soured my desire for this now.
At least it's only running for three issues so I could still stretch to checking the rest of the first issue out in-store and possibly buying it if my appetite is re-ignited.
Is #500 out yet? Anyone want to tell me to rush to the comic shop or not bother?
 
 
doctorbeck
12:31 / 09.07.04
rushed there myself yesterday, they reckon another 2 weeks to number 500 (that's in london, may be sooner in the US)
ended up spending 20 quid on ultimate spidey 1-13 hardcover instead fool that i am

curse my innate geekness

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Sax
12:37 / 09.07.04
Who's that blonde woman in a Captain Britain-type outfit on page seven?

(And please don't say Captain Britain without further explanation).
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
13:04 / 09.07.04
Dr. Strange?!! Are you crazy? No way. He's all ethereal and shit - I guess you could play it like the Doc in The Authority, but it's not really proper.

I think Dr. Strange is a pretty natural choice for a few reasons - first, it's something of a concession to the "icons" thing, because he's a pretty classic Marvel character who is generally underused, and would add some marquee value since he's had his own series. Why hasn't he been a regular Avenger?

I think his ethereal quality would add something to the dynamic, and it would make some sense in the context of the kind of villains that the Avengers usually face. He's powerful, but also very knowledgeable about arcane stuff. He can play the role of Mr. Exposition rather well in some stories. Make him more Rupert Giles than Anton LeVay and it works just fine.
 
 
_Boboss
13:13 / 09.07.04
but he's in the defenders

and is no way going to heel for shield or that twat rogers

and they've got one alchy already. no.
 
 
The Falcon
14:06 / 09.07.04
Aye, Doctor Druid?

Scarlet Witch is a bit magicky too.

Doc Strange's continued underexposition bothers me too, though, yeah. Best Marvel costume by a Dark Dimension street.
 
 
_Boboss
14:12 / 09.07.04
meant alcoholic rather than alchemist, the h was misleading, if not downright mistaken.

plenty other characters in the vengers know magic like ye say, and strange is aloof and arsey, really not a team player.
 
 
Sax
14:25 / 09.07.04
So... Captain Britain? Union Jack? Union Jacqueline? Joan Fucking Bull?
 
 
_Boboss
14:31 / 09.07.04
saxual harrassment that is.

asked this some other thread the other day, 'parently it's a new lady cb courtesy of your pal chucky gets lucky austin.

yeah whatever you do don't let someone from britain write her, that'd be stupid.
 
 
Warewullf
14:45 / 09.07.04
It's the new Captain Britian. She's a woman who got killed during an Avengers mission and became the new Captain Britian (as you do) but can't ever tell her son (and mother?) that's she alive and well and living in Avengers Mansion. Although her son (and Mother?) are living there as well. I think. Something like that.
 
 
fluid_state
14:56 / 09.07.04
geez, if you were talking about a soap opera, it would seem forced and contrived. A comic book? yeah, I guess it makes sense. What Dr. Strange should really do is join Days of Our Lives. Shake things up a bit.
 
 
FinderWolf
15:24 / 09.07.04
So what happened to the old Capt. Britain? I flipped through one of the bad Austen-written AVENGERS and saw his life was being threatened by Morgana LeFey or something -- I think he survived at the end, but I was wondering what happens to his Capt. Britain-ness?
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
10:18 / 30.07.04
Read this in the shop. It's a lot less fun than I'd imagined watching 'Cap' and his goons suffer horribly for that many pages would be. The wrong Bendis showed up.
 
 
LDones
11:17 / 30.07.04
Don't mess with the WRONG BENDIS.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
11:55 / 30.07.04
I thought this was the comic equivalent of a nasty exploitation flick. It was scrappy and brutal, and fairly relentless. I can't say I really enjoyed, but it intrigued me enough to buy a couple more. Their does seem to be a returning trend of sadism and miserableness to superhero titles (see: Identity Crisis) at the mo. We couldn't be due an early 90's revival could we?
 
 
FinderWolf
16:30 / 30.07.04
MacGyer, that's pretty much exactly how I felt. Felt sort of all over the place 'Let's fuck shit up!!' but I do want to see where Bendis goes with this.

And why do they go back to the old numbering (#500!) if they're just going to cancel it at 505 and then restart it at issue again? I know, I know, sales and marketing, but still....it annoys me. The latest restart of Avengers (with Busiek & Perez, oh those fun days) only made it up to something like 87 anyway.
 
 
The Falcon
12:23 / 31.07.04
I thought Finch completely owned it this ish.

Not so much exploitative as grandiose, too. No cape-rape for a start, and that whole bit with the Vizh as harbinger was ice cold.

I'ma definitely rack the rest.
 
 
FinderWolf
19:43 / 13.08.04
They announced the new line-up at Chicago today.

It's pretty wacky.

Who wants to be spoiled??
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
21:24 / 13.08.04
Spoil me do, daddy!
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
21:27 / 13.08.04
Spoil me do, daddy!
 
 
Simplist
21:34 / 13.08.04
Click for spoilage.
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
22:31 / 13.08.04
Neat!
 
 
spacemonkey
13:16 / 14.08.04
Bendis is playing with using The Sentry – which is the Paul Jenkins character from the mini-series a few years back that was retro-fitted into the Marvel Universe. Bendis said, “He is the most powerful superhero in the Marvel Universe but he’s scared to leave his house.”
-- Newsarama

Crazy. Does this mean the new Avengers HQ will be in the Watch Tower? Are they going to fight the Void again?

Well, Bendis tends to write good books, so I'll try it out.
 
 
FinderWolf
12:41 / 02.09.04
Yikes -- Avengers 501 is out and Bendice is kinda stinkin' up the joint. To me, the issue felt forced, cramped, and people were acting out of character all over the place. Hank saying Jan has been going out of his way to make her life miserable for a while now? (I know under Austen she had a fling with Hawkeye, so I suppose some anger and jealousy could be justified for Hank, but I'd rather just pretend the Austen issues never happened, thank you very much) Hawkeye not trusting Tony Stark?

I usually like or really like most of Bendis' stuff - but this Avengers story is the first piece of Bendis' work where I find myself saying "Wow, this really sucks!"

I think I'll be just reading these in the store and not paying my hard-earned money for 'em, unless they get better. (Byrne-stealing, as frantic JB calls it)
 
 
FinderWolf
12:43 / 02.09.04
It's a shame, cause I really wanted to like this, too.

Mostly nice art by Finch, though.
 
 
Simplist
16:37 / 02.09.04
To me, the issue felt forced, cramped, and people were acting out of character all over the place.

I enjoyed it ok; decent talky/transitional issue, setting up what'll obviously be further carnage in parts three and four (it undoubtedly helps that any out-of-character behavior is largely going over my head, as I haven't read these characters in maaaaany years). If anything it just highlighted my ongoing frustration with the monthly format in general--monthly comics, with rare exceptions, are just too damned short to be any kind of satisfying read, and four to five weeks between shrimpy installments is just too long for any kind of decent narrative momentum to be maintained. Still, I'll be coming back for the next one, assuming I happen to go to the shop that week...
 
 
Imaginary Mongoose Solutions
16:20 / 03.09.04
I dind't notice too much out of character stuff, myself. Although I haven't been an avengers reader much of late... I think the last arc I read was Geoff Johns Red Skull arc. but given how most of the characters seem to be getting fucked with personally and gaslighted (Cap both his own title and Cap and Falcon, Iron Man in his own title) and how Hawkeye and Iron Man developed issues in Avengers vs. Thunderbolts, none of it seemed too out of character to me.
 
 
FinderWolf
14:17 / 24.09.04
Guess who they just killed in Avengers 503, buckos???
 
 
FinderWolf
14:27 / 24.09.04
I mean 502. D'oh!!!
 
  

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