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Being an Internet Fuckwad on arrival at Barbelith

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01:31 / 17.06.04

VKUK aka Britannia's DOOM got me thinking about this again, i'd decided against posting about this but then i saw his thread and thought i'd make this because it interested me.

So, basically what the summary says, after being a fuckwad for a period of about three months i was just wondering how many other people acted like a goon and for how long. I have to admit that even though i acted so stupid for so long i really did have a lot of laughs doing it, even if i did pay after. Also the fact that i never trolled any particular person seemed to make me think that it was ok to do it. Do you think it's something that just wears itself out after a while and if so do you think it's reflected in how much people want to stay here, knowing that to carry being a fuckwad would get them banned?

Mainly just wondering how many of you fucked around here though and for how long, i don't know why i'm asking, i think it's because it would be suprising to know who and how many of you did.

Me personally : i turned 25 and woke up a little.

01:51 / 17.06.04

I had a major meltdown in the "Touched by an Angel?" thread, but given it was a RRM/chrome/Laila creation I think I can be forgiven - I mean, it's not like I was doing any damage to anything that mattered, you know? It was more a stupid thing to do because it probably made them feel legitimised to prompt that sort of reaction and might have set a nasty precedent if I had't been talked around by those good folks at Jack Fear Inc. and Nick Ltd.

I'd been posting here without incident a year or so when it happened, too. But still, not my finest hour.

02:37 / 17.06.04

As Ubermisfit, I would start threads like "Who's better, the USA or the UK?"

As Jack Denfeld, some people thought I was a little self absorbed.

As Mike Robot, I rock the muthafuckin' house like your momma's leftover gravy steak biscuits2000! Boo-ya!!

03:05 / 17.06.04

I did get a well-deserved smack-down in the Switchboard soon after I started posting here, but I think that's fairly common for new arrivals who aren't used to message boards and thinking twice before hitting 'post.' (The last message board I was on before Barbelith was probably a BBS back in 1995 or so...)

03:29 / 17.06.04

Good lord, it was so long ago I don't even remember what I did when I first got here. I vaguely recall helping judge the first (only?) Barbelith poetry slam. I've been occassionally bratty, but nothing terribly controversial.

I did threaten to pistol whip someone once, but you know, in a fun way.

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

04:43 / 17.06.04

Was that the sh*n*n*g*ns thing? I'm still scared of you, you know.

I was quite the prick for a while- not in a brash and offensive way, just a sort of *cringe to think of it now* sort of way. Actually, my current behaviour makes me cringe, too... I tink it's just a habit.

VonKobra,Scuttling&Slithering

05:16 / 17.06.04

It's all right Stoatie, I'm right here behind you covered in Rotten Tomatoes.

I'm going to scrape them off and make a nice cheap Ragout.

06:48 / 17.06.04

I was too frightened by all of the intelligent people to be a fuckwad......huh.............did I just admit to being a fuckwad?

08:08 / 17.06.04

Can I plead the fifth?

pointless and uncalled for

08:36 / 17.06.04

I think it's safe to say that I was reasonably well vilified on barbelith when I first managed to arrive. I was petulant, opinionated, rash, witless and largely had a lot of problems with the manner in which serious matters were argued. I think that I expected discussion rather than debate and at the time the debate had a flavour of oneupmanship with a hint of Theoryier-than-thou. As someone with a rather anti-theory stance on life you can imagine the shitstorms I managed to bring.

I think my greatest example of utter fuckwaddery came when someone basically said that my posts were garbage and I had said nothing of value. My response was to post a whole hearted agreement and then delete every entry that I had made in that thread and thus render it largely unreadable. I don't think that it would be unreasonable to say that I significantly detracted from the quality of the board during that period.

Another notable follow on from this was when attending a meet BiP refused to introduce me to Haus on the grounds that the world might end.

ONLY NICE THINGS

10:02 / 17.06.04

I think that I expected discussion rather than debate and at the time the debate had a flavour of oneupmanship with a hint of Theoryier-than-thou.

No, no. You were just off the pace.

10:11 / 17.06.04

"My response was to post a whole hearted agreement and then delete every entry that I had made in that thread and thus render it largely unreadable."

Killer, you're my new hero. ^ ^

pointless and uncalled for

10:25 / 17.06.04

No, no. You were just off the pace.

That was my impression at the time. I'm not entirely sure that I have ever been on pace.

I act like I'm wise now and avoid the Headshop for fear of uric contamination of the pyrotechnics.

ONLY NICE THINGS

10:44 / 17.06.04

Oh, huggles - I'm sure it would be fine now. And I daresay I made an utter tit of myself when I arrived. To be honest, I can't remember - it seems so incredibly long ago now...

10:45 / 17.06.04

Is there anyone here who didn't argue with Haus when they first arrived?

Apart from Haus. And anyone before Haus. I seem to be feeling rather obvious this morning.

12:05 / 17.06.04

Not me. I was wise and calm and measured when I arrived. I've had to evolve into fuckwaddery.

12:06 / 17.06.04

Well, there was the time I effectively told Cameron he didn't understand the Invisibles... [cringe]
and all that stuff with Rage...
and a misjudged anti-sport rant...

I'll get me fuckwad coat...

12:51 / 17.06.04

My fuckwaddery comes in waves, I think. I first came on site during one of the new member shut-outs, so I got to do a lot of observing before I made myself known. I fuckwadded strategically to get the asscandling out of the way, something I still periodically attempt. I like to think that makes me especially clever and manipulative, but then all that restraint starts to chafe and I start riding up on the block with two glocks screaming fuck the world like Tupac. So sorry about that.

13:11 / 17.06.04

Well, nothing other than using my name....

Which still makes me smile, y'know. At the time, I honestly thought the *other* grant was already on the board in one guise or another.

13:27 / 17.06.04

Oh, he totally is.

14:41 / 17.06.04

..how do you know?

....oh.... you're him! Quick! Grab him!

Tryphena Absent

15:21 / 17.06.04

I try to be philosophical about the whole thing- we're all getting older so we're probably all getting wiser too. Well, I am.

16:33 / 17.06.04

Oddly enough, I - like 'Nesh - demonstrated a reverse of this usual pattern, being all shy and sensible for some years before something (and I still know not whether it was stress, cynicism, boredom or just a basic release of my more infantile tendencies) caused my fine and upstanding behaviour to degenerate into a rather more abominable cyberself. I'm not sure whether I've grown back up again now or not, we'll see. I was terribly proud that I managed to resist jumping into Rage's recent severed head shitstorm but then I realised I was just too busy, rather than too mature. Actually I'm still a little sad that I didn't. So anyway, to answer the thread title enquiry no, I was not a fuckwad when I first arrived but much later and only time will tell how long it has, or will, last. (Mwahahahahaaaaaaaaaaa... etc etc)

18:46 / 17.06.04

I still am a fuckwad.
unintentional spammer.
Lurked for yonks. Posted...instant idiot.
I do this in real life too.
So not an internet fuckwad.
Just a fuckwad.
*sigh*
So the end of fuckwaddery came naturally to you people.
What exactlly did you do to change?
How do I become `lither?

18:58 / 17.06.04

I don't know if I'm a fuckwad or not, but it seems like almost every time I post to a thread it dies instantly, and I think I may have unintentionally offended a few people by being too obvious and coming off as condescending. I'm not condescending really. I'm too clueless to condescend to anybody. Please don't be mad.

Dammit, I'm new and clueless. I wanna be cool. What do I haveta do to be cool? (*whimper*)

Is it possible to become a fuckwad just by being pitiful?

19:13 / 17.06.04

Thanks everyone, this has been good to read. Around the time that F2B went down for a few days some people from there came here and there was some really mad and funny stuff in threads, that's about the time that i started terrorising this forum instead of being the total fool of the Magick/Temple, maybe it just gets like that from time to time.

Reminds me, i haven't been to F2B in ages.

What exactlly did you do to change?
How do I become `lither?

All i did was post some really stupid drunken stuff in Rage's art thread in creation and then turned another mod against me, then i turned 25 and realized that i actually liked coming here (especially for the Temple, now i have 2 main forums that i visit, Temple and Comics.) and that it was pretty much amazing that i hadn't been banned.

I had to conform, they broke me in the end.

Ha, i just stopped before i got banned, wouldn't say i'm a 'lither' or whatever that actually is, but i'm a little more hackable now hopefully.

19:19 / 17.06.04

I wanna be cool. What do I haveta do to be cool? (*whimper*)

Stuff all that, just be yourself, it the easiest thing to do and it's what almost everyone here does anyway.

Being yourself will be cool, trust me.

I say almost everyone because i'm not sure that every member here is being themselves, i can't generalize for 4000+ members, most of whom i've never even exchanged symbols with.

19:46 / 17.06.04

I like you, Sekhmet!

20:30 / 17.06.04

I've always been really nice here. Why be a fuckwad? That's incredibly immature!

Brigade du jour

20:40 / 17.06.04

Um, what's a fuckwad? Is it the same as a dickhead? Or more like an arsehole? Same thing really. I suppose it makes me a fuckwad asking that question, right?

I don't know, we all make mistakes (as the Dalek said, climbing off the dustbin), so I'll just apologise to anyone I've ever fucked off with my purely unintentional fuckwaddy behaviour. I was drunk, I was stupid, I was young, I needed the money.

20:42 / 17.06.04

You know what I'd like right about now? A cool, slightly skunked beer in a longnecked bottle. That would be so sweet.

21:05 / 17.06.04

For me, there's a delicate balance between posting so little that I don't make enough mistakes to learn from, and posting so much that I make too many mistakes to learn from at once. I have rarely got that balance right, sadly.

ONLY NICE THINGS

22:37 / 17.06.04

I don't think you were in much danger of being *banned*, Robbie - I think only about 3 people have been banned in this incarnation of Barbelith, and they all did pretty dire things, one way or another. This isn't like other message boards. You would just have been mocked or ignored, which you largely were.

I'm actually getting quite nostalgic about some of the big Brother-style bad behaviour now. Ganesh demanding to know whether bread made you gay, me accidentally picking an almighty fight with Cameron about the use of the word "girls", Bill accusing me of corruptly abusing my moderator powers by deleting a post I had never even read... ah, happy times.

22:58 / 17.06.04

I was never a fuckwad, and I'm not sorry - I do feel some kinship with you though, Rob; Haus has a theory about posters reiterating each other and I can kind of see it (you & me - though I'm suprised you're the same age as me) sometimes. I may have misjudged the tenor of the place on occasion though, and accidentally caused distress, for which I am sorry.

Barbelith seemed fairly self-contained when I arrived (it had just opened up to new members after quite(?) a long period of self-sustenance) and was slightly hostile. It seems a lot sunnier now.

00:58 / 18.06.04

I might actually vote Falconer Least Fuckwaddish Member. I dunno. Depends on who else got on the ballot.

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