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Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
20:52 / 24.06.04
Linesman: Yep, that's a goal.

Ref: No, I'm a bastard. Haha!

---> I think that's squarely where the blame should be. Can't we appeal? Can't we say "he was a bad man!" I expect not, I expect it will come out that he was wrong and bribed and secretly Portugese and had a secret face behind his yucky beard and we'll go "Oh, that's really good to hear now that we've lost. Again. In the same way as ever!"

Yaaaaay!
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
21:03 / 24.06.04
I'm glad we had a swiss ref. It's not like we beat them 3-0, or anything.
 
 
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21:11 / 24.06.04
Our lady that song was really funny.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
23:01 / 24.06.04
Gah. When did the occupying forces make us care so much?

I blame my mother. If it weren't for her I could enjoy the triumph of Wales' legal victory, and recognition as the champions of Europe.

So, who do we support now? Czech Republic? Everyone loves those guys...
 
 
Rev. Orr
23:51 / 24.06.04
Is there some kind of international conspiracy amongst referees to stop Sol Campbell scoring goals for England? I admit that it was a disgraceful foul and he was all over the player, but seeing as the individual Sol was cheerfully strangling to keep away from the ball was his own teammate I thought a little leniency might have been in order. Like smacking kids - it's legal to hurt your own.
 
 
The Falcon
23:58 / 24.06.04
Well, thank fuck for that.

Campbell fouled no-one except Terry. Unfortunately Terry was fouling my new favourite man, Ricardo. (With his bare hands! Ouch!)

Arguably.

England were terrible tonight, and it'd've been a bloody travesty if they'd progressed. That was the worst excesses of Nordic (and/or Italianate) football on display tonight.

Only players on pass-marks are Campbell and Cole, who was monolithic in dealing with C. Ronaldo. Possibly the worst performance I've ever seen by Beckham - certainly excluding this tourney.

Here's who gets into the Semis, bet-fans: France, Sweden and the Czech Republic.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
05:16 / 25.06.04
In terms of the refereeing on that goal, yes he was wrong, but considering that he would have been down and to the right when it was scored, I suppose he has some justification if his reason was that Terry pushed the goalie. He didn't, but I could see why he might think that. What annoys me more is the Portugal player picks the ball up out of the back off the net because he thinks it's a goal, he clearly holds it for a second or two before the ref tells them to play on, then drops it and hares off up midfield. If the ball is still in play then that's surely a foul?

Anyway, Portugal played better and so deserved to win, but we would have won if not for a poor referring decision. Anyway, I can now go back to not giving a toss about football again. See you for World Cup 06 or whenever it is?
 
 
Jub
05:24 / 25.06.04
Ha ha. Flowers... I like your style.

- I'd like to add to the chorus of disapproval.

That said, at least we lost to the home nation. At least it went to Penalties.
 
 
pointless and uncalled for
07:18 / 25.06.04
In terms of the refereeing on that goal, yes he was wrong, but considering that he would have been down and to the right when it was scored, I suppose he has some justification if his reason was that Terry pushed the goalie. He didn't, but I could see why he might think that.

C'mon, look at the replays. The arm is clearly hooked over in a way that prevents Ricardo from having a chance at blocking the ball. Positioning is one thing, physical contact obstuction is another. The stupid thing is if Terry hadn't done that Ricardo probably wouldn't have saved anyway.
 
 
lonely as a cloud...
07:29 / 25.06.04
Anyone else agree that England deserved to lose for the way they played last night...? I mean, come on, they sat back and defended for practically the whole match, while the Portuguese hared joyfully forward!
Campbell's not-goal was quite a dodgy decision - seeing it on telly it looked 50-50, but how could the ref see it? And I never got a chance to see the Portuguese not-goal, the one that might have gone over the line - no replays. Funny, that. It would've been a much more heroic defeat if Becks hadn't cocked up his penalty so completely.
Anyway, commiserations to the English.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
10:10 / 25.06.04
AARrrrrghhhhhh.

Portugal played better. We were too dependent on Rooney. Who is a fuckwit for getting himself sent off. Especially that fucking early. If we're 1-0 and it' 70mins in, yes it's worth the risk. Can someone explain this, slowly and clearly to Wayne, please?

arrgghhhhhhh.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
10:11 / 25.06.04
Oh, and switched off at the penalty shoot-out. couldn't bear to watch. *Knew* we'd lose it, and couldn't face another one of those....
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
10:11 / 25.06.04
They weren't utterly awful in the first half, just the second. I think they deserve some credit for dragging it out through the silver goal thing and in to penalties.

And SK, though I'm a football novice and barely remember any of the names, I think you and I are talking about different thinks, as I don't Ricardo was anywhere near the goalmouth at the time of the disputed goal. But from the refs perspective the England players might have pushed/blocked the goalie, the view from the Gods on TV showed that wasn't the case.
 
 
pointless and uncalled for
10:25 / 25.06.04
I was refering to the disputed England goal.

One would hope that Ricardo was somewhere near the goalmouth as he was the goalie in question. Yes/No?
 
 
lonely as a cloud...
10:26 / 25.06.04
Bengali - did Rooney not go off injured...?
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
10:55 / 25.06.04
Yeah bengali, bit harsh to expect Rooney to carry on playing when he couldn't even run. Did you think he got sent off, rather than taken off for injury?

I know England played badly, but I think it says a lot that we nearly won despite all our bad luck, having to change the team round drastically and whatnot (although maybe we should have been better prepared for that). They were pretty desperate circumstances, all told, and we very nearly squeezed out a win. In fact, some might say we did. Secretly.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
10:58 / 25.06.04
Some might say that. But some would then be straw-grasping tossers.

Come on the Czechs,
You play better than Becks
At this moment,
So does everyone but me...
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
11:13 / 25.06.04
sorry, was having a brainstorm. Meant to say 'having to be taken off' .

And yes, it was a bit harsh. I'm not claiming to be at all rational right now.

But England's utter dependance on him is *pathetic*, I feared this after last match.

You *can't* get on in internationl football by relying utterly on one player.

As any opponents with half a brain will make sure that player plays no part. Whether by shutting him down, fouling him, whatever.

er, unless you're Argentina and the player's Maradonna. And even he had some 'help'

Bright spot though: hardly any post-match trouble. Thank fuck.

Oh, and Beckhams penalty?!?!?!?!?! I have no words.
 
 
_Boboss
11:18 / 25.06.04
reckon there's a few portugese in norfolk might not agree with you as they try to clean up their fucked pub this morn
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
11:23 / 25.06.04
Rational has no place here, bengali!

I'm supporting Sweden.

I actually found I didn't much care after we lost, I just thought about something else.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
11:32 / 25.06.04
Fuck, yeah, only just seen that on the news. I *was* talking specifically about events in Portugal.

At least we may have got on top of the problem of exporting violence to any country foolish enough to host a football tournament.

Now if only we can apply the same princicples to Norfolk, Jersey, Boston etc...

 
 
Bed Head
11:56 / 25.06.04
“Erikkson must stay!’ trumpets the Guardian. Really? To my eyes it, looked like the worst tactical decision ever to just try and defend a one goal lead against opponents who were shite at everything *except* attacking. Replacing Scholes and Gerrard with Hargreaves and fucking, fucking Phil Neville = worst decisions ever. Bar none [/absurd hyperbole, sue me]. Beckham’s gonna get all the flak, but he never stopped working. It’s Ugly Phil that stood off and just let Rui Costa score. The grotesque dunce.

Pah, Erikkson. These subs were even earlier and even worse than his subs in the France match. Gave Portugal a chance when they shouldn’t have had any bloody chance at all. This defend, defend approach is absolute lunacy unless you’ve no other option; we’re not Italy. You can say there’s an over-reliance on Rooney, but the biggest impact he’s had has been in allowing all the other England players to really go at their opponents, like they’ve always been capable of. Result: a free scoring team and joy throughout the land. Finally, the tactic of hoofing it up the pitch and bouncing it off Heskey - ie, the entire justification for H’s presence in the team, has been discarded, so how about now giving some of the other boys a go? I mean, no Rooney? Well, Dyer can run with the ball, too. How come Neville has come on what seems like umpteen times this tournament, but Kieran Dyer hasn’t had a single kick? Or Joe Cole, for that matter: if you’re minded to replace Paul Scholes, why not replace him with someone else who can pick out that glittery wonder-pass? I mean, having had the Portugese on the back foot, why not try and keep them there?


Plus. Bent referee, dodgy penalty spot, blah blah. Yeah. We all saw it. But they could have just won the bloody thing without ever worrying about all of that.

Arrggh.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
12:10 / 25.06.04
Plus. Bent referee, dodgy penalty spot, blah blah. Yeah. We all saw it. But they could have just won the bloody thing without ever worrying about all of that.

Well yeah. Exactly. And utterly agreed re the substitions, wtf???? And on Phil Neville.

Hmm, d'you reckon I should takcle 'im then? Or give him a couple of yards of space?'

Least frightening defender in the world. People must rub their hands with glee when they realise who they're up against.

Rui Costa, after the match :Well, I was worried that Noddy and Big Ears were going to be marking me, they can be pretty nasty. But then I realised it would most likely be Phil Neville.
 
 
Bed Head
12:22 / 25.06.04
Ha ha!

But, not even a defender. A ‘midfield enforcer’, no less. I mean, bloody hell. He’s scary, but in all the wrong ways.

So, yeah. Fuck Phil Neville. And Nicky Butt. And the Other Guy, the one that gets so much stick, but really is simply incapable of playing international football, and *shouldn’t* ever be placed in the position where he will attract so much criticism, it just isn’t fair or right. Lets hope the emergence of Rooney naturally leads to the building of a fundamentally attack-minded England over the next two years. And that means Dyer, Cole, Defoe. Jermaine bloody Defoe, the best English striker in the prem. *Got* to be in the team for the World Cup. Please, God.


But - would you still have Alan Smith in your team, Bengali?
 
 
Tryphena Absent
13:37 / 25.06.04
Yeah bengali, bit harsh to expect Rooney to carry on playing when he couldn't even run.

Nonsense, he's a professional footballer, he should have wrapped that ankle up and played on it. This country is too soft on its sporty types, that's why we never win anything (except rugby- but then as ned said in the pub last night, Wayne Rooney was our Jonny Wilkinson.)
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
13:46 / 25.06.04
Nonsense! He broke his fifth metacarpal! Or meta something! He broke a meta something! Does that mean he entered the supercontext? Where are the people from the Matrix threads when you need 'em, eh?
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
13:58 / 25.06.04
BH:

do you mean in my England team, my Leeds team or my 'hung,drawn and quartered' team?
 
 
nedrichards is confused
13:59 / 25.06.04
Gloom, gloom and despondancy. Did we ever work out whose bloodied hand was clutching the park bench btw.?
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
15:11 / 25.06.04
Oh and have just been reminded *why* Sven continues to pick and subsitute in, Phil Neville.

Neville is Sven's (wonder if that's where Rowling got the idea from? Wish she could have written an 'Neville comes good' scene like the one in OOtP for Euro 2004) mistress.

Sven l-o-o-o-oves him.

The whole think with Ulrika was a smokescreen.

Think about it.

Can you offer a more plausible explanation?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
15:17 / 25.06.04
Zombies?

Did we ever work out whose bloodied hand was clutching the park bench btw.

Phil Neville's?
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
19:45 / 25.06.04
OOOOOOO!!!!

Looky what "favourite" team got outplayed and lost. This competition's been blown wide open!!!!!! etc.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
19:47 / 25.06.04
Ah bien! Oui ca va bien merci!
 
 
Bed Head
19:56 / 25.06.04
Hah! Suddenly a hard-fought 2-2 draw against mighty Portugal looks like an okay result. As opposed to a 1-nil humiliation at the hands of Greece, that is. I like the European Championship again. I’m that fickle. Hah hah!
 
 
Spatula Clarke
19:58 / 25.06.04
Did we ever work out whose bloodied hand was clutching the park bench btw.?

Peter Beale. Arthur loved that place.
 
 
electricinca
20:07 / 25.06.04
I know it's a lame pun but the Greeks really are the dark horses of this tournament I wonder if they bear gifts.

The competition is truly blown right open, with what were in my mind the two finalists now knocked out I have no clue who will lift the trophy. Based on form so far I would have to say Sweden is where my money would be placed.

Maybe Sven backed the wrong horse and should have chosen his own national team, or maybe he is part of some sinister copnspiracy to ensure the Swedes win by hampering England's chances through substituting Phil Neville.
 
  

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