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Jub
09:15 / 07.06.04
My lovely fellow 'lithers...

I have decided to lose weight after my girlfriend very kindly pointed out that I was a tubby bloater. Bless her. I have been feeling rather rotund of late and so think it best to slim down to a svelte me.

I understand that it's not good to yoyo and all that and whilst I've gone through bouts of healthyness before - I've never actually tried to lose weight before.

At the moment, I tip the scales at just over 16 stone and the ideal weight for someone my height is, the internet reliably informs me, between a heavy 11, and a light 13. So I'm going for 12. That's four stone. Time wise, I'm looking at the end of the year.

Most of the weight I carry is on my belly and moobs, which is as a result of too much beer and lardy foods.

Obviously, I will cut out quaffing such great amounts of beer as well as not continuously munching on fatty munch all day. Some light exercise is on the cards too. I'm stopped smoking already.

However, I need your help (think Lord Kitchener). What is the best way to turn flabby belly lard into toned 6-pack, and fleshy moobs into hard pecs?

Any sporty Loids will know the best exercises, but bear in mind I detest physical exercise, so it's quite difficult, and whilst saying "go swimming 4 times aweek" seems sensible it most certainly will not happen. Nor will an atkinsesque diet suit. (am I being a bit precious with these?!).

I'm particulary interested in getting tips and advice from healthy 'lithers who were once tubby and went through that change; Foods, exercise, attitudes and anything else!

Thanks all!
 
 
pointless and uncalled for
09:49 / 07.06.04
If you want to avoid the yo-yo affect of "dieting" then the best approach for a beginner is

to make some changes to what you eat rather than the amount you eat.

The key to this is sustainability and making sure that you have a diet/exercise combination

that you will be comnfortable to continue for the forseeable future. This should lead to

some weightloss which will primarily be white fat (the quick access reserves that the body

creates). After you've got that down you can start looking at dealing with the brown-fat

(the long-term stuff, much harder to get rid of).

It's hard to give realistic advise without knowing in more detail about your current

eating/exercise habits.

However there are a few things that should be done automatically.

1) Learn that there is no such thing as white bread.

2) Switch beer for just about anything else.

I could probably give you more indepth advice if you want to meet up.
 
 
Mr Messy
13:02 / 07.06.04
I lost kilos by becoming addicted to exercise. And I'm not joking. I'm currently nearing Bangkok, having peddled there from Singapore.
But I don't think you need to go to these extremes. If you do absolutely no exercise at all, then build it in slowly. Its best to have a plan, so think about what sort of exercise you could stomach for now and work out when you'd like to do it, and how often. Then, if these goals are realistic and you manage to attain them, you can think of other harder ones.
I think its best to tackle diet in this way too. Cut down on certain foods slowly, and replace them with alternatives.

D'you know, I was drawn to answer this thread. And yet I loath myself for the reply I've just given. It sounds so 'perky' and well, 'healthy'. What have I become?
 
 
Mourne Kransky
14:06 / 07.06.04
Commandments for losing weight, getting fit and becoming even more gorgeous, Jub:

1. Never let the Seldom Killer lead you into the chocolate cafe he frequents, where everything has chocolate in it. 1a. Heed no advice from a person who would do such a thing.
Incidentally, his post, you will notice, is double spaced throughout. That's a very bad sign.

2. Hypnosis. Expensive but fun. Doesn't work forever, in my experience, but you can make great headway in a short space of time. Will kick you off on the path to self improvement and slenderous fabulousness.

3. Find some form of exercise that you actively enjoy. Obvious really but unless you can find something that has some secondary gain beyond eventual, ultimate weight loss, you'll never stick with it. I have found that being able to wear my walkman suring is obligatory. So I have sworn off the mountaineering and ballroom dancing.

4. Don't stop smoking. You will get even fatter.

5. Do stop the fags and stay off or else you'll never have the puff for all this exercise you're going to do.

6. Never take advice from a fat person about how to lose weight. Find someone who was once fat and got thin (like me) and stayed thin (unlike me). And only listen to them if you think they smile a lot and have better sex than you do. You may need to have sex with them to determine this of course, but that's very good exercise.

7. Never take advice from a mesomorph about how to lose weight. Just admire their muscles and accept that God shafted you when he designed you. You might get scrawny. You will never get Schwarzeneggery without a personality transplant and a nasty steroid habit.

8. Never take advice from Kate Moss. People who "just eat what they like and never put weight on" should be avoided, or shot. If they're over thirty years old, at least.

9. Have surgery on your legs to extend their length. You can weigh the same but will appear much thinner.

10. Seldom Killer was right (probably a fluke, though)about changing the kind of sustenance you take rather than the amount. Hence my present Atkins regime, which is going surprisingly well.

Realise too that you may become thinner, fitter and more productive but it might prove an empty victory. I got down to nine and a half stone once and everything in my life still sucked, as it did during that Dark Age I endured, and I had to buy lots of new clothes. I'm aiming for an Eddie Izzard level of cuddliness now, rather than my present King of Tonga proportions. I have abandoned any aspiration to being a Cher-like wisp. Fortunately my lovely partner is a chubby chaser.

Good luck.
 
 
pointless and uncalled for
14:14 / 07.06.04
Do you bite your thumb at me sir?
 
 
Ex
14:20 / 07.06.04
And is it a low-carb thumb?
 
 
Mourne Kransky
14:40 / 07.06.04
Phase two of Atkins allows one digit per day as long as you don't have the usual chips with it, and no barbecue sauce. A tasty high protein snack when the fridge is bare and you have a friend round whose fingers look unusually succulent.

I'm thinking of having sleazenation for lunch soon. He has legendarily large hands.
 
 
Dances with Gophers
18:45 / 07.06.04
Xoc said not to listen to chubby people but as a gopher (even a portly one) I guess I can pass on some tips.

Don't eat just before bed as the body burns less carbs when yer asleep.
Walk upstairs rather than use the lift etc.
Suck the thumb rather than chew as you will ingest fewer carbs.

It is a very slow way to lose weight but it does work.
 
 
cusm
19:00 / 07.06.04
1) Learn that there is no such thing as white bread.

2) Switch beer for just about anything else.


Having shed about 20 lbs myself recently, the above is fine advice to start with. Also, lose the soda. Its just unreal how much sugar one can pick up in a day from a nasty Coke (a-cola) habit.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
19:33 / 07.06.04
My diet plan:

Drink vodka, not beer.

Hang out with people who go out clubbing a lot, and dance around routinely for five hours straight, ideally on speed for the quickest results, but for the sake of your sanity, maybe not every time.

And that's it.

I've got no idea if this'll work or not, but it's got to be more fun than going to the gym.
 
 
pomegranate
19:33 / 07.06.04
yeah, what cusm said. you might feel like a pussy at the bar ordering a jack (or whatever) and diet coke, but that's about 80 calories, as opposed to maybe 200 or more for a beer. i know a girl who switched to diet soda (you get used to it!) and lost 15 pounds.
 
 
BigCedar
19:57 / 07.06.04
Agree strongly with finding physical activities you enjoy. Don't focus your excercise around weight loss. Find something physical you like to do and get better at it. The better you get , the more fun you'll have. The weight loss that occurs will be a fringe benefit to the sexy, confident feeling of having a body that can perform.

Also, your fat didn't get there overnight. It won't go away overnight. Long term weight loss takes a long term approach. You've got the rest of your life.

No matter what your strategy is, it all comes down to those moments of choice. Do I excercise now or veg on the couch? Do I pack my lunch or grab fast food?
Your human. So even if you make the right choice only 80% of the time you'll still get there.

Planning well and having support for good choices really helps.
 
 
pointless and uncalled for
06:50 / 08.06.04
you might feel like a pussy at the bar ordering a jack (or whatever) and diet coke

My drink of choice is vodka and cranberry (unless I'm south of the river where it seems that cranberry juice is outlawed in bars) which has been referred to as "to gay for the gay bar". If I can manage that, you can manage JD and coke which can at least be ordered with a swagger. Remember this though, shots have half the alcohol of pints and therefore you are not an alcoholic if you drink 2-1.

Besides, who gives a fuck what you order at the bar. I'd rather people look at me and think "who's that sexy thin man drinking a girlie drink?" than "who's that fat git with a pint blocking my view of the sexy thin man with a girlie drink?"

Another thing worth trying is the low fat option. Never buy anything at regular fat levels if there is a a low fat version available. If you can taste a difference you'll probably forget about it after about a month.
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
07:20 / 08.06.04
I'm not a huge fan of low-fat products, but it can't be denied that if you eat a lot of dairy etc. they could make a difference. I'd be more inclined to have the odd dairy splurge but to increase consumption of salads, stir-fry veg, fish etc. (& ignore any recipe that tells you to put more than a spoonful of cream in, they're usually too rich for hot weather anyway).

Make sure to eat breakfast as this will stop you picking at things during the morning, and take in lunch so you don't end up buying enormous made sandwiches from Benjy's or Pret or somewhere similar.

I lost a lot of weight last year by eating nothing but toast and pate for weeks on end (budget constraints) but I wouldn't recommend it as a long-term option...
 
 
pointless and uncalled for
07:23 / 08.06.04
Erm no, unless you are going on a limited-term diet then a balanced diet is critical to your health. They idea behind low-fat options is to be able to keep eating the things you like to eat with a lower biological impact.
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
07:24 / 08.06.04
Also, if you don't like exercise much (neither do I) you might try walking a bit more. Even half-an-hour a day helps a bit, I find... and it eases problems like indigestion, without being too strenuous. It takes me about an hour to walk from Bloomsbury to Shoreditch, which isn't too bad, and can easily be done if you have a bit of free time in the evening. But you will enjoy it more if you have a nice route, which Bloomsbury to Shoreditch is not.
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
07:26 / 08.06.04
Yeah, the pate thing wasn't intentional... forced on me by poverty and poor facilities.
 
 
Perfect Tommy
08:05 / 08.06.04
I'd like to second walking—it is ideal to find something physical that you enjoy doing, but it's also great to find something physical that is for something, namely transportation. That way rather than trying to fit an hour into your day to prepare to exercise, exercise, and return to non-sweaty life, you can just allot extra time to travel on foot instead of by vehicle (even if it's only part of the journey instead of the whole way).
 
 
illmatic
08:40 / 08.06.04
There's always cycling for instance if you really want to take your life into your hands. Just the terror alone should get you shedding pounds.
 
 
Squirmelia
08:51 / 08.06.04
Don't be afraid to embrace alternative forms of exercise:

The obvious one (lots of websites out there that tell you how many calories you lose while kissing, etc),
Playing on swings (exercising the legs),
Skipping down the street (less harsh than running),
Moshing, pogoing, or other forms of dance,
Swimming in the sea,
Walking up cliffs or other places with good views,
Meeting up with friends and just walking around,
Jumping on a bouncy castle,
Flying (might be difficult, but could be good exercise for the arms),
Running away from a real danger (oh no, there's a wasp coming towards you - run! run!).
 
 
pointless and uncalled for
10:59 / 08.06.04
Next week is National Bike to Work Week

What better time to start.

And look, the Government are doing a tax exemption plan for purchasing the bike
 
 
pomegranate
13:07 / 08.06.04
another good thing is to look at what you can add to yr diet, instead of just what's being *sob* taken away. for example, try to eat more vegetables and drink more water. fiber will fill you up and you will long a bit less for pizza or whatever it is you fancy.
 
 
salix lucida
13:14 / 08.06.04
To go with the "vodka, not beer" and "less soda" perma-change to keep the weight off: if you drink coffee and you drink it with anything in it, learn to like it black. My coffee consumption is legendary at work, and I attribute at least five pounds of what I've kept off for a year to that one little change. I suppose scary cancer-causing sweetener and fat-free milk will serve the same purpose, but it tastes rather fouler than good black coffee, I think.
 
 
bjacques
13:23 / 08.06.04
If you eat meat, substitute down the food chain. I draw the line at maggots and crickets, though I've heard they pack the most protein by body weight. Eat at places that don't load you down with food. When I moved from Texas (cheeseburgers, extra fries, refillable quarts of coke or iced tea) to D.C. (hills, more variety within walking distance) I lost 10 pounds. When I moved to Amsterdam (fresh herring stands! very lean beef, little bitty cokes...) I lost another 5.
 
 
Mr Messy
13:26 / 08.06.04
Are you still with us Jub, or have we scared you off with our enthusiasm to tackle your weight loss issue?
 
 
Bear
13:39 / 08.06.04
I'm planning on going back to the gym when I come back from holiday, maybe we should start a Barbe-fitness group that would be quite the site.
 
 
bjacques
13:52 / 08.06.04
But, um, you don't have to move to Amsterdam to lose weight. Anyway, it's probably too late, since I've gained that 5 pounds back since the restaurants got a lot better.
 
 
8===>Q: alyn
14:36 / 08.06.04
Last year I switched my staple diet from pasta to rice, and bought a bicycle. I'm not sure exactly how much weight I lost, but all my pants (trousers) are now several sizes too big.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
17:17 / 08.06.04
Cut out one of your meals. It sounds like madness but you'll lose quite a bit of weight. Trust me I eat 4 chocolate bars a day but no lunch. Also don't eat bread, it makes you fat.
 
 
pointless and uncalled for
06:36 / 09.06.04
I would seriously advise against cutting out one of your meals. It's very poor body management and can lead to some quite serious health problems, particularly if you're going to be engaging in exercise.
 
 
Jub
08:39 / 09.06.04
Mr Messy, still with you! Thanks you all very much for your words of encouragement and advice. SK, next time I see you at a Barbemeet - I will talk to you about this further thank you.

Let me tell you the changes I've made so far in light of all this. Before I used to cab/tube/bus it everywhere. Have breakfast, visit the patisserie for elevenses, have a big lunch (with pint!), snack at once I was home, then cook up something fairly standard (meat, two veg) for dinner.

Now I am having breakfast (cereal), cab to work (still, but it's very early and too far to walk), fruit about 9-10ish; More fruit for lunch about 3, walk from Kensington Hight St (where I work) to Waterloo - get train home. Eat light dinner. Seems to be okay.

I'm happy to eat less as I ate *loads* before, but have to do it regularly otherwise come across a bit faint!

Think the walk each day is a good start to the exercise - takes about an hour - but will encorporate more as the weeks progress, since after reading what everyone's said I don't want to over do it!

I've stopped drinking pints and am drinking G&T. Very nice...

So thanks again, and I'll keep you posted. If any of you think of anything else, please let me know!
 
 
pointless and uncalled for
08:49 / 09.06.04
I'm happy to eat less as I ate *loads* before, but have to do it regularly otherwise come across a bit faint!

I'll discuss this with you further but this sounds a lot like a high blood sugar metabolism. In this instance it's OK to eat sugary food as long as the fat count is lower.
 
 
Aertho
17:38 / 06.05.06
Its just unreal how much sugar one can pick up in a day from a nasty Coke (a-cola) habit.

Okay, so I'd finally had it with these peliminary lovehandle things and quit drinking caffienated beverages. No Coke, Pepsi of coffee drinks for five days now.

My body is in PAIN.

Is this normal, and what else can I expect?
 
 
Jack Denfeld
17:43 / 06.05.06
No caffeine!? My God, what's next, nicotine? You're a brave one Cass, good luck.
 
 
Aertho
17:50 / 06.05.06
Not a smoker, but sodapop's my vice. I don't feel brave. I feel vain and determined. And I feel PAIN.
 
  

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