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Dude, you're not supposed to hit girls!

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15:00 / 03.10.03

did this happen at harpo's?

15:10 / 03.10.03

No, it was Groucho's.

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

15:32 / 03.10.03

Pretty much all the women I know are harder than I am.

Now how's that for political correctness gone mad?

I'm gonna write to Richard Littlejohn, I am.

Yeah.

17:44 / 03.10.03

To honest i dont think you should have hit this girl until you knew exactly why the fight happened. For all you know this random woman could be the wife of someone your girlfriends sleeping with on the side.
Then you wouldnt be so eager to leap to your partners defence would you?

17:57 / 03.10.03

not to be nasty, but that's kinda dumb, man. you're saying that if someone you care about is in the wrong that they deserve to get their ass beat down, and you wouldn't feel bad just watching?

call me kooky, but if someone I cared about was getting hurt, I couldn't NOT get involved. I might not jump right into cracking heads, but I can't just stand there and wdo nothing. hell, I've been known to jump in and break up fights between strangers - there's no need to let that kind of thing go on if you can reasonably help

18:04 / 03.10.03

I dunno. It's all a bit confusing.

Clearly it's okay to slap bitches, or hos. I don't think that's in doubt. But this was more than a slap, it was a punch. Is it okay to punch bitches? Punching is something you do to men. I think if you punch a girl, even a bitch, you're a bad guy.

On the other hand, maybe it's okay to hit biker-bitch-type bitches. Maybe she was like that. And it's always okay to hit someone who's beating up on a girl. I think that's gender-neutral. If you hit a girl you deserve to get beaten up, that's how it works. Oh hold on, that means your mate deserves to get beaten up, doesn't it? Well, maybe he's just got to take what's coming to him. Why don't you make a deal with him that you'll beat him up, but not really do it very hard? That way everything would be okay.

I think some girls it's okay to hit. I think you could hit the Baroness, as long as you didn't break her nose or anything, and just the once. (It would be wrong to hit Scarlett though, but only a bad guy would hit Scarlett.) I also think it's okay to hit people as long as you knock them out immediately with a surprised look on their face, because that's funny and there's no real harm done.

18:09 / 03.10.03

Perhaps if Brian is skilled he could have just restrained the girls. But really, I hate the whole "I am a girl and you can't touch me because I am so frail and what would your friends think?..bleh, bleh, bleh...", especially if the girls were willing to dish out such violence. Why should it be that girls can only beat on girls and boys on boys? But then again, I don't think men should just start violence against a woman on a whim. Defensively yes, hit the bitch... but to overpower a woman violently (or any way for that matter) for dominance over her...that is just a sickness. I would eat him for breakfast, the sick fuck.

EE

20:04 / 03.10.03

To honest i dont think you should have hit this girl until you knew exactly why the fight happened.

Is this directed to me? Honesty is always appreciated, but I didn't hit anyone. Go read the first post a little better.

In Brian's defense, he wasn't really bragging. He has no need to pick on anyone smaller than himself. If he wants to assert dominance he'll pick on a big guy, because he can beat the hell out of those too. I'm telling you, he's a ninja.

20:42 / 03.10.03

I mean once you've hit one woman you'll hit any

Bullshit generalization. Here’s another:

Pot is a gateway drug.

13:34 / 04.10.03

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Hey Steelwelder, are you actually a steel welder? Cuz Qalyn's just getting into that. It seems cool... for a guy like me who's only ever soldered circuitry.
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14:32 / 04.10.03

It's not so difficult to push people over. Especially if you're big; like your friend, EE. Drunk people can take some time getting up.

Flowers - leave it.

15:16 / 04.10.03

Is it okay to punch bitches?

Fridgemagnet, thank you for finally bringing some lucid analysis to this thread!

02:00 / 05.10.03

I like these suggestions. Hey EE, is fridge's last comment accurate? Did she have little stars floating around her head, like Tom in Tom & Jerry, when Jerry hits him in the face with an iron or something? Or were they little birds? Like Tom in Tom & Jerry? If Brian's a ninja, couldn't he have taken the bitch out by waving his hand really fast in front of her face so that he created a vacuum and she passed out because she couldn't breathe because of the vacuum in front of her face? Man, I wish I was a ninja. Do you get female ninja, EE? Would a female ninja in a club be a bitch, a ninja or a ninja bitch? Not that I'm female, you understand, but if I'm going to train to be a ninja I need to know who I'm allowed to lay into and who I'm not. I guess there's some kind of code for ninja, like a ninja code, that says you can't hit other ninja, so I need to know what the code is if I'm going to be a ninja.

02:03 / 05.10.03

Wow. I typed ninja so many times there that I'm, like, totally unsure whether I spelled it correctly or not. Have you ever done that, EE, types a word so many times that you don't know if you've spelled it correctly or not?

ONLY NICE THINGS

02:06 / 05.10.03

Only when I'm speaking France.

EE

03:57 / 05.10.03

Have you ever done that, EE, types a word so many times that you don't know if you've spelled it correctly or not?

All the time when I'm high. I once spelled the word "correctly" with two sevens. Why, have I made several spelling errors? Sorry.

Do you get female ninja, EE?

Nope! Try as I might, I don't understand much about them. Women! Can't live with 'em, can't shoot 'em...

Would a female ninja in a club be a bitch, a ninja or a ninja bitch?

Couldn't tell you. All I can say is they've never been anything but polite to me.

09:50 / 05.10.03

:rolleyes A ninja is the opposite of a bitch, E. Randy Dupre, so how could you get a ninja bitch? It just doesn't make sense!

09:51 / 05.10.03

You could get a pirate bitch, though. That would be possible.

15:13 / 05.10.03

Bitch, like so many other words, has positive useage too.

e.g. "Rachel Steven's 'Sweet Dreams My LA Ex' is a top slice of bitch-pop."

Cheap. Easy. Cruel.

14:01 / 06.10.03

grant

Hey Steelwelder, are you actually a steel welder? Cuz Qalyn's just getting into that. It seems cool... for a guy like me who's only ever soldered circuitry.

I don't weld for a living. In the course of several projects I have worked on/assisted with I have had occasion to learn some welding skills. I have used a basic crackerbox arc welder and a MIG welder. Most of it has been maintenance welding. My cousin built a hotrod truck out of a '41 Chevy pick-up, we had to box in the C-channel frame rails and put in a six point stiffening frame. I have made several pieces of custom furniture of steel and glass that I did all of the welding/brazing on. I am currently designing a custom motorcycle frame and gas tank that will require some extensive welding.

I would really like to get access to a TIG welder, but at present I haven't found anyone that has been willing to let me putz around with theirs. A guy I used to work with once welded two soda cans together. I would be quite happy with just a fraction of his expertise.

15:26 / 06.10.03

Removing all penii from this issue, can we still say it is not okay for a girl who fights "like a boy", (whatever that actually means) to hit a girl?

This can't be all about penises.

My Mom Thinks I'm Cool

05:41 / 07.10.03

I don't think it's any better for me to beat up a guy who won't/can't defend himself than a girl. And if some karate bitch attacks me I can't imagine why I couldn't fight back. The issue ought to be "helplessness" rather than gender.

Personally I have a real thing about getting into a sweet fight with a hot chick who's just a little bit tougher than me and trying to kill each other. Mmmm. Yeah, I'm with Anna - if my girlfriend got in a fight with four chicks and lost, I'd just be embarassed and drag her out with an apology. Unless she totally didn't want to start the fight and four chicks were all on her at once and still kicking her when she was down...which sounds kinda like what happened...but any real girlfriend of mine would have started the fight, so I guess it doesn't apply to me, sort of.

18:27 / 07.10.03

One point:

four of them

one of your mate

one of his girlfriend

equals two-on-one odds at best, so IMHO, if outright violence was a viable strategy for your arse-kicking ninja mate then he should have used it. The velvetvandal code strongly favours the option of assisting the underdog in all situations: this is what your mate was doing, and so as far as I care he's in the right.

I don't go in so much for outright violence, myself - too clumsy and inefficient - but I have been known to slap the odd curse on people for fucking with my mates. So, an ethical dilemma for any of the other magick posters in this thread: if a male magician puts a really nasty curse on a non-magical female for hurting his gf, is that better or worse than Bruce Lee one-inch-punching the bitch in the tits? Discuss.

20:58 / 07.10.03

What if you saw a butch 12 year old beating your 10 year old nephew's teeth in. Would you hit a kid? I hope that I wouldn't, but I suspect I would.

21:36 / 07.10.03

Or a really strong femme 12-year-old?

21:50 / 07.10.03

Only if she was in a club. And only if I'd finished my ninja training.

07:53 / 08.10.03

Dude, if she was in a club, you should be beating on the bouncers for corrupting a tiny butch child.

18:56 / 08.10.03

Yeah, but you're missing the main point here. Bouncers = likely to kick the shit out of me. Tiny butch child = easy pickings.

Such is the way of the ninja.

19:36 / 08.10.03

I didn't meant butch as opposed to femme, just butch meaning tough. You can be femme and butch at the same time.

Which is no doubt another thread, already existing. My point was, if the issue is unequal strength, aren't kids at least as much weaker than adults than women are relative to men?

Not counting the 11 year old boys in my muay thai class who used to pound me. You haven't lived till you've been kicked in the head by somebody half a foot shorter and forty pounds lighter.

21:52 / 08.10.03

Which is no doubt another thread, already existing

Oddly enough, I don't think we have a butch/femme thread: I keep half-heartedly thinking about starting one in the Conversation, but never get round to it. Hmm.

ONLY NICE THINGS

22:48 / 08.10.03

equals two-on-one odds at best, so IMHO, if outright violence was a viable strategy for your arse-kicking ninja mate then he should have used it. The velvetvandal code strongly favours the option of assisting the underdog in all situations: this is what your mate was doing, and so as far as I care he's in the right.

Except, of course, that as an arse-kicking ninja he is worth at least three hos and bitches, and probably more.

Therefore, Brian the Ninja was in fact not the underdog but the overdog, and we must support the hos and bitches. Unless the hos and bitches had the ladyvenom, in which case we must support Action Force, for they are clearly Cobra, the enemy.

13:23 / 09.10.03

I've only ever hit one person in my life, his name was "Walter, I'm a HUMAN BEING" (he deserved it, he broke my sunglasses). I've never hit a girl but GOD I've wanted to on occassion. I don't think violence is gender based, merely aggression based. If someone asks for it, they get it and deserve it. End of story. People are people, whether or not they have breasts shouldn't enter into the discusiion of whether or not they should have been punched out as they robbed someone else of their right to enjoy a night out with their mates in peace. I hear the pubic bone hurts as much when given a good kneeing whatever the sex of the owner. I imagine the mindset of the aggressor is much the same whether or not the protagonist owns testicles or not.

13:41 / 09.10.03

I got punched out by a girl once. It was my fault, I was being a twat - but then again, I was 14, so I dind't know any better. Get off my case alright. Anyway, she's now a famous triple jump gold medal winner for England. True. Funny, eh?

14:07 / 09.10.03

dude.
you should sue.

havent yu always wanted a gold medal? maybe you could get one in the settlement.

01:33 / 10.10.03

Anyone else besides me find it hilarious that his friend punched the girl in the club and knocked her out? I both approve of it and find it highly amusing.

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