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New X-Men #147

 
  

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Rawk'n'Roll
19:26 / 27.09.03
Spoil it doggie.







(K9, dog... geddit? Sigh)
 
 
Tom Coates
20:52 / 27.09.03
Everyone's seen this right? New Brotherhood of Mutants
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
21:17 / 27.09.03
Mmm. Jack Osbourne has been cast as the new Toad, it seems.
 
 
Quireboy
10:35 / 28.09.03
And Angel seems to have become Lil' Kim.
 
 
FinderWolf
17:35 / 29.09.03
Nice one, Quireboy! She does look at Lil' Kim-ish.

So can you tell us a little about what happens in this issue, BioK9?
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
19:43 / 29.09.03
I'll tell you what happens...



















...Magneto gets hooked on drugs. Bio tells me so.
 
 
FinderWolf
20:35 / 29.09.03
Huh?? Xorneto does Kick?!
 
 
sleazenation
21:00 / 29.09.03
It would be quite funny seeing mageneto's revolution fall into the same drug-induced lethargy of all those hip young revolutionaries... but only for 3 seconds...
 
 
bio k9
04:36 / 30.09.03
Ok. Spoilers.

The big scenes are when Esme offers Mags some kick and he takes it, "Yes..well...the mutant power performance enhancer...just this once more." and then destroys a bunch of stuff including the Statue of Liberty and the Brooklyn and Manhattan bridges. When hes finished hes still clutching the kick inhaler and hes sweating like a fucking pig. Mags is definitely headed for a fall. Also, Esme pushes a herd of humans along with her mind, some mutants flip outy and kill a "human flatscan" in what looks like a U Man suit and beak registers his disapproval with the violence. That boys gonna be a hero someday.

The issue ends with Professor X floating in a perspex box while Magneto (who has been wearing his helmet for most of the issue) taunts him from below. Seriously

Oh, and Mags has destroyed the school.
 
 
diz
10:47 / 30.09.03
drugs are bad, mmmkay?

but, more seriously: Magneto on Kick is a scary fucking thought. he's already insanely powerful. Mags X 5 = Holy Effing Shit.
 
 
Quireboy
10:53 / 30.09.03
Spoilers (so I'm told)



And Magneto tells Xavier he just wants him to admit he was right.
 
 
Rawk'n'Roll
11:10 / 30.09.03
drugs are bad, mmmkay?

but, more seriously: Magneto on Kick is a scary fucking thought. he's already insanely powerful. Mags X 5 = Holy Effing Shit.


Mags was seriously depowered before his "death" in Genosha. I expect the Kick is the only thing keeping him going at the moment. Look out for some Quentin Quire style overdose in issue 150. How appropriate.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
11:14 / 30.09.03
That school gets blown up so often! The architects, construction crews, interior decorators, and landscapers of southern Westchester must love that steady biannual flush of money that comes from the Xavier school and their inevitable rebuilding.

You'd think that the people of Salem Center would've figured out that something was up long before Xavier outed himself too - how many buildings get blown up and rebuilt that often?
 
 
Sebastian
11:33 / 30.09.03
Gee... And I thought that the x-men school was an organic sentient being endowed with a mutant healing factor.
 
 
diz
13:01 / 30.09.03
Mags was seriously depowered before his "death" in Genosha. I expect the Kick is the only thing keeping him going at the moment.

i'm not sure that GM is dealing with that aspect of continuity.
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
14:45 / 30.09.03
He had his spine hacked in two in 113 but to all intents and purposes he got his powers back in some stupid LS. Cortez (?) was juicing him up for a bit before then.
 
 
FinderWolf
16:58 / 30.09.03
>> destroys a bunch of stuff including the Statue of Liberty and the Brooklyn and Manhattan bridges

He really detroys that stuff? It's not a dream sequence or a kick-induced fantasy vision??

I'm a bit surprised Marvel would allow such huge Authority-style violence, especially against major Manhattan landmarks in NYC after 9/11. Esp. the Statue of Liberty. (and esp. given any hypersigilic affects Grant's writing may have here if you believe in that sort of thing)
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
17:05 / 30.09.03
Hunterwolf, did you miss the part about how the entire Marvel Universe is going to be destroyed in #150?
 
 
FinderWolf
17:44 / 30.09.03
True, very true, Flux - I do remember reading that that (and I laughed as I contemplated the hypersigilic effects of such massive destruction - hey, I have a sense of humor about this stuff even though I do believe in it to a large degree). I just thought it would be gradual and cosmic, i.e. everything getting wiped out instantly in one super-cosmic flash, as opposed to lots of real-world non-cosmic death and destruction building by building, city by city.

I wonder if the destruction of so much of NYC will be reflected in other Marvel books? Probably not, I'd guess...

Whatever - I'm just very psyched for tomorrow and my eager devouring of 147!! Although I hope the plot moves forward more than just "Mags blows stuff up, Mag's evil band wreaks havoc and Mags hangs Charlie upside down by his ankles and says 'say uncle!'".
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
17:58 / 30.09.03
I thought it was #154 that you could read as the end of the Marvel Universe, which seems more and mroe to me like Grant doing his version of "Days Of Future Past."

At first I was a bit upset that we'd have tp put up with Megneto again, since the character has been a constant presence in some of the more annoying X-Years, but Grant is making me like the character for the first time since he was "brought back" in X-Men #104.

*thinks a bit*

Fuck. I am So Old.
 
 
Ganesh
21:56 / 30.09.03
Does anyone throw eggs at Xavier's box?
 
 
Rawk'n'Roll
07:10 / 01.10.03
No, but Paul McCartney is seen in the crowd...
 
 
Uatu.is.watching
17:54 / 01.10.03
Apparently Toad has gotten a secondary mutation as well, the ability to talk with his tounge stuck all the way out of his mouth.

and where are the other Cuckoos?
 
 
quinine92001
20:49 / 01.10.03
Great Issue! Kick, Drug Abuse, Delusions of granduer, Ernst loving the mask Xorn instead of Magneto, Esme's new outfit and Magneto hero worship, Magneto's rampant destruction of the school and surrounding area ( there is a bit where a statue of Mercury is sheared off at the waist and demolished by Magneto. I wonder what is the significance of that?) And then In the throes of a wasabi heatwave a strange idea, what if the students of the special class are just fictionsuites/masks for the old X-Men we know and love. What if they plan to do to Magneto what Magneto did to them? Here is my theory of the New X-Men/ Old X-Men analogs:
Xavier=Martha
Basilisk=Cyclops
Esme= Jean or Emma
Angel= Emma or Jean
Ernst=Beast
Beak= Wolverine
I think it was the wasabi.
 
 
Mr Tricks
20:50 / 01.10.03
Xornvestite Huyk!
 
 
LDones
22:00 / 01.10.03
One issue after the reveal and Magneto seems like such a sad, angry, old man - able to conquer the world in a day and still clambering for relevance to the world at large. A Brotherhood who liked his old mask more than they like him (and some weird discomfort/attachment to the Xorn persona - that mask's liable to bite him in the ass with some karmic feedback), the impotent, attention-hungry worries to Toad, the growing emotional need for the Viagra-like Kick, those great metal phalluses thrusting through the streets of New York...

That shit with the human execution queue really got to me. I hope Beak goes Darth Vader and tosses Magneto down a radioactive energy pit.

The only panel in the issue that Toad retains control over his face-tentacle is when he doesn't have a line near the end. Maybe his secondary mutation involves his massive, throbbing tongue replacing his antiquated human vocal chords by vibrating at sub-sonic speeds in order to produce "speech-like vibrations!". Or not...

I feel sorry for old Mags - he's really going to swallow some shit before this is all over.
 
 
ciarconn
23:44 / 01.10.03
Huh, guys... if Esme provides Magneto with the Kick, it means that Mags didn't produce the Kick... and that means that, even as deep and complex Magneto's plans might seems, there is somebody planning even beyond... and it can't be Weapon plus, because if it was in asteroid M, it might mean that weapon plus, and Fantomex, are derived from Magneto's plans...
 
 
Burning Man
00:41 / 02.10.03
Great issue! I loved it : "You've been declared dead so many times that the people don't know if it's really you" or something to that effect" -then the mob couldn't see Magneto and their attention wandered off and Toad was left as warmup act.

One thing though...Mags wrecking the bridges...not all mutants, swim, hop or fly. Of the Brotherhood, only Angel and Beak (sort of) can fly. Mags might have pissed off some folks.

Now, I'll sit back and let X-perts dissect the issue.

Thanks for playing.
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
02:31 / 02.10.03
Grant sure is writing Magneto has some emotionally insecure attention craving megalomaniac, eh?

How...predictable. I'm sad to say, I'm a little disappointed in his Magneto. The only thing I can think is that Magneto isn't quite in control of himself. He certainly seems pathetic...and incoherent.

What's going on behind the scenes?
 
 
bio k9
03:53 / 02.10.03
Apocalypse!
 
 
Jack Denfeld
05:45 / 02.10.03
Not a lot happening in this issue. Besides Magneto destroying New York. It's sad when really old people use drugs.

Esme still has that "I'm better than you." attitude towards the loser class, I don't think she saw the losers of her school as her peers in the New Brotherhood. Toad seems unimpressed as well, which is saying something. Magneto never gives a good reason as to why the loser class are included in his new Brotherhood. He's grown fond of them? They don't seem powerful, and they don't seem to be awed by him or share his hatred for humanity.

Beak realises this whole thing is wrong when he sees the mob of mutants killing humans. The last panel which featured Beak showed him being disgusted at what was happening, and I suspect he'll make his move next issue. But who's coming with him? The whole class?

Someone mentioned earlier that they'd rather not have Quentin return, and that Magneto was more interesting. After this issue I disagree. I'll take Quentin's teenage rebellion and lashing out without a plan over the sad pathetic old man Magneto.
 
 
diz
12:14 / 02.10.03
Magneto never gives a good reason as to why the loser class are included in his new Brotherhood. He's grown fond of them? They don't seem powerful, and they don't seem to be awed by him or share his hatred for humanity.

yeah, totally. why does he need a bunch of scrubs like the Special Class? i kind of buy his "we were all losers once" spiel, and obviously there is some potential there, but for me the problem is they just aren't mutant revolutionaries. i'm sure he could find a bunch of low-powered young mutant thugs who could do everything they can do without all the moral qualms. i mean, god, most of the Omega Gang is still alive, right?

this issue was ... ehh. kind of disappointing. Esme is getting to be less and less interesting and more and more like a bad stereotype. GM's been handling the Cuckoo's teenage-ness very strangely. it seems like he's throwing in her bursts of petulance and naivete to make her seem more "real," as in, more like a teenager, but not all teenagers are like that, and the Cuckoos seemed a bit more savvy than that. Mags seems like a weird knock-off of Ultimate Magneto (not that i dislike Ultimate Magneto, but he's not really quite the same character).

and, well... i liked Assault quite a bit. however, part of that was based in the assumption that, when it was over, we'd find out what happened to Emma and the school and everything after the end of Murder, but that's been totally brushed aside. Xorneto i was coming to accept, but to go from "Magneto's been at the school all along!" to "all the X-Men are dead, the school's been destroyed, and MAGNETO RULES THE WORLD!" between issues left me feeling flat.

i've also been a big fan of the way NXM is sort of self-contained, without excessive reference back to the larger continuity, but this went a little far in that respect for me. it's just weird to have ongoing events in books like New Mutants and NYX (is this out yet? is it any good, if it is?) set in the affected areas and not seeming to deal with it. this is especially weird because so much of the rest of the X-universe seems to have reoriented itself to accomodate NXM, and the two books i mentioned in particular seem almost like spinoffs, but now the main trunk of the tree they're branching off from has been cut down. where does that leave them?

and, not to be too much of a wanker, but where are the FF and the Avengers during all this? or even fucking Spider-Man?

between this and the forthcoming destruction of the MU, the big Reset Button is looming large on the horizon, and that's kind of annoying.

the best thing about this issue? Toad. seeing him try to explain to the boss that he's just died and come back too many times for anyone to know what to think was effing priceless. and the "we will... umm... we will replace the old ways with ... with... new ways! SHINY new ways!" was perfect.
 
 
Rawk'n'Roll
12:21 / 02.10.03
and, well... i liked Assault quite a bit. however, part of that was based in the assumption that, when it was over, we'd find out what happened to Emma and the school and everything after the end of Murder, but that's been totally brushed aside. Xorneto i was coming to accept, but to go from "Magneto's been at the school all along!" to "all the X-Men are dead, the school's been destroyed, and MAGNETO RULES THE WORLD!" between issues left me feeling flat.

I completely agree. I'm wholeheartedly disappointed with this issue now I've got it in my hands.
I thought the art was poor, although Jiminez's pencils looked good I think it was the inking and the colouring that ruined it. Too sketchy, too red and not lavish, like I expect from PJ.

I feel like we've skipped an issue, or at least too much is taken for granted. Magneto has managed to destroy the school and demolish Manhattan without any other superhero taking him on let alone the Uncanny team or any of the other students/New Mutant characters. Where's Xtreme? I think an event of this magnitude should be effecting other titles for it to have the proper resonance. This is a BIG EVENT and its only happening in New X-men. Maybe its just me but it seems like a wasted effort.

I don't like the dialogue either. Magneto seems very distracted, almost as though he's only doing this whilst he's high on Kick. When it wears off I expect he's having doubts over the magnitude of his destruction.

I'm gonna have to wait for the next issue but I'm incredibly disappointed with Planet X so far. It all seems a bit rushed without anything actually happening...
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
12:32 / 02.10.03
Oh come on. If this was a big X-line crossover, everyone would be whining sooooo much more.
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
12:43 / 02.10.03
No one ever complained about this sort of thing when the Authority was out. Tons of stuff got blown up and nothing was ever adressed in the larger universe.
 
  

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