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Power outage in the US?

 
  

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Ganesh
19:37 / 14.08.03
I've just heard a rumour that several US cities have gone dark. Can anyone confirm this?
 
 
MJ-12
19:44 / 14.08.03
from NY Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/14/nyregion/14WIRE_POWER.html

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Power outages were reported today throughout the Northeast. Blackouts were reported north to Toronto, south to Maryland and west to Cleveland, Detroit and Toledo.
 
 
Ganesh
19:47 / 14.08.03
More from Google News...
 
 
grant
20:08 / 14.08.03
I bet ConEd was running Windows.

Anyway, there's a power plant on 14th St. in NY that's apparently in flames. The NY barbelithers won't be able to comment on this one.
Unless they've got solar powered satellite laptops.

Apparently, some (but not all) phones are out, too.
 
 
grant
20:09 / 14.08.03
That's including cell phones, too, according to ABC News.
 
 
cusm
20:10 / 14.08.03
Yea, it looks like most of the NE is out. News is starting to get more details now. more
 
 
Mr Tricks
20:52 / 14.08.03
State and City officials have said that the Niagara Mohawk power grid was overloaded and that was causing the outages. The grid provides power to New York and into Canada.

"We believe it was a cascading effect that may have originated in Canada," said Joy Faber, a spokeswoman for Consolidated Edison, New York City's primary power provider.

Mayor Michael Bloomberg said there was "no evidence at this moment" the outage was connected to terrorism. A senior police official also said there was no evidence of terrorism.

Bloomberg confirmed that the outage appeared connected to a malfunction near Niagara Falls. Officials said they were working to determine the extent of the outage.


also...
Cities affected include New York; Cleveland, Ohio; Detroit, Michigan; Toronto and Ottawa, Canada. The power outage occurred shortly after 4 p.m.

Just got word of this myself... disturbing... especially this bit...
The New York City Police Department said a number of people were trapped in elevators. Thousands of people could be seen leaving buildings and walking into the streets. New York subways were reported stopped and people were trapped in the cars.
 
 
Cherry Bomb
21:52 / 14.08.03
Yeah not sure what's going on but apparently power won't be restored for up to a day. More from MSNBC
 
 
Mazarine
22:04 / 14.08.03
Hi. Just outside of Albany, we just got our power back, power's coming back slowly in certain areas. It supposedly started in Ottowa. I was freaked out for a minute there. I hope all of our NYC Lithers are okay, good luck to you.
 
 
000
22:28 / 14.08.03
It's impossible to ascertain this but apparently Neo has entered the Source and is AOK.

Sorry.

Telly brought an impressive image of thousands of people walking on a highway, alongside stranded cars. Reality's more impressive than a several million dollar movie. Hope not too many have suffered from the power outage.
 
 
Mister Six, whom all the girls
01:42 / 15.08.03
Right now on the boob, they just said Canada claims it was caused by lightning that hit the Niagra Falls generator, but the generator workers said there was no such lightning.

The lack of info is frustrating. My girlfriend cannot get in touch with any of her family in Long Island (and the fact that she HAS family in Long Island is stressful enough!).

Some jackass on the boob is droning on and not really saying anything. Like a cartoonfish, his mouth bobs open and closed and empty bubbles come out.

Any more news on this? I canna find a fucking thing!!
 
 
Mister Six, whom all the girls
01:45 / 15.08.03
From:

The power cut spread in a "ripple-effect" across Michigan, Ohio, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania and Connecticut, and across the border into Canada, as far as Ottawa and Toronto.

It was the largest crisis to hit America since the September 11 attacks and George Pataki, the New York State Governor, declared a state of emergency. Security has been high at reservoirs, power stations and utility plants in case computer hackers or bombers attacked power grids or water supplies.

New Yorkers were alarmed by black smoke emerging from a Con Edison transformer station in Manhattan. But Mr Bloomberg said it was caused by a fail-safe mechanism, which shut down the New York grid to protect it.

Bryan Lee, a spokesman for the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, said, however, that there were indications that a fire at a power station sent a wave of destruction across the grid.

The Niagara power grid, which is based in Buffalo, and draws much of its energy from Niagara Falls, was bought by the British company National Grid in September 2000.

It distributes electricity to 60 per cent of the northeastern United States, and parts of Canada.
 
 
bio k9
02:44 / 15.08.03
The average CNN "man on the street" interview:

CNN- Where were you when the power went out?
Man on the street- In an elevator.
CNN- Was it scary?
MotS- A little.
CNN- Were you here on September 11th?
MotS-(confused look)Uh, yes. (or no, this question doesn't matter)
CNN-As you can see, people here are very worried. And with good reason, its still dark here.

I think the power companies are in for some major emergency funding in the name of National Defense.
 
 
lolita nation
04:53 / 15.08.03
my best friend was stuck on the 1-9 train for 2 hours and then had to walk to williamsburg from 66th street. he said there wasn't much looting, though.

did they ever figure out what caused it? all i keep seeing on the news is "it's not terrorism..."

qalyn? todd? flux? you guys okay?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
05:03 / 15.08.03
I'm sure I just heard on TV that looting has begun...

I'm guessing this is Bill Gates' last ditch attempt to stop Blaster spreading before Saturday.
 
 
Cherry Bomb
07:38 / 15.08.03
The BBC has reported that looting has begun in at least four parts of Ottawa!

Those in affected areas (who I realize likely can't read this at the moment unless they're on a lap-top wi-fi connection), please check in when ya can...
 
 
Cherry Bomb
07:51 / 15.08.03
This is what I would do:


OLD NEW YORK IN SOHO

In Manhattan’s Soho neighborhood, it seemed more like the 19th century than the 21st as candles illuminated the few windows with any light. In bars, people sipped drinks purchased by candlelight. Some flouted the smoking ban, their lit cigarettes glowing in the darkness that enveloped the city.
“They’re New Yorkers. They’re making the best of it,” said owner Mark Whelan of Maggie’s Place in midtown. “Have a few cocktails and wait it out.”
At Patrick Conway’s, a bar near Grand Central, commuters hurriedly downed beers before the bottles turned warm.
The bar’s owner, to the delight of his patrons, promised to stay open as long as the power from his generator held out. Nearby, Mark Johnson — stranded outside the shuttered train station — sat drinking a can of beer with a friend.
“We’re taking in the sights,” he said. “You can’t let it get to you.”


I hope our Barbelithan crowd was doing something like this - sounds lovely!
 
 
Tryphena Absent
08:25 / 15.08.03
I love the idea that the power goes out and everyone starts to ignore the rules... screw it, everything's gone mad so I'm smoking.

Whoever this man is, great observation-- While New Yorkers poured out of immobile subway cars, emerged from stuck elevators, began long walks home or rested in local establishments, one unidentified man saw beauty. "You can actually see the stars in New York City," he said.
 
 
Quantum
09:46 / 15.08.03
I love blackouts, it's like a snow day at school. Hey, I just noticed National Grid are responsible for blacking out swathes of the US! Should never have privatised it, eh.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
09:46 / 15.08.03
It was pretty bad, though I didn't have to deal with anything quite as horrible as Lolita's friend.

I went in to visit with Todd and Qalyn, and very shortly after I arrived, the power went out. I walked about 35 blocks to Grand Central, and hung out at Grand Central for eleven hours until they finally sent a train out on the Hudson Line so I could get home. The train was super slow and super local, but I got home a little after 6 am, and it's about 6:45 now. I'm just glad that there's power here, really.

I feel as though I'm fucking cursed. Last week I had to spend 20 hours at LaGuardia. I just can't win lately.
 
 
wembley can change in 28 days
10:00 / 15.08.03
I rather liked the reporting on this one from The Globe and Mail:

In what could have been a disastrous situation, ordinary Torontonians, some of them still dressed in business suits and ties, got out of their cars or parked their bikes, moved into the centre of intersections, and began directing traffic.

"He's jumped right into the fray and made this corner manageable," said Barbara Lowe, who was visiting Toronto from Dublin, Ireland, and was gaping at a middle-aged man in a mauve shirt and tie directing traffic at the corner of Front and University Streets. "I am absolutely taken with his attitude. Look at this guy, he just got out of his car and got everything moving again."

"Five minutes ago ... this was chock a block, up and down. Nothing moving."

Ms. Lowe's friend, Holly Jackson, from Calgary, was equally taken.

"This, in a big city like Toronto," she said, waving her hand at the street as a waitress from Casey's bar ran out with an iced tea for the sweltering would-be traffic cop. "It's unbelievable. It's fabulous.

"This could just as easily be a disaster, but it's not."

The good samaratian, who wouldn't give his name, simply said he was trying to help.

"I'm just trying to direct some traffic to go through ... I'm just trying to help a bit because it'd be chaos here otherwise," he said. "It'd be nice if somebody did it at every intersection."

And at nearly every downtown intersection, someone did.

From engineering consultant Mike Khoa Nguyen, who was waving on cars at King and Bay Streets, to Peter Carayiannis, who was doing the same thing a block north at Adelaide and Bay, "Toronto the Good" lived up to its moniker during yesterday's rush hour.

Every five minutes or so, pedestrians would stop and applaud, thanking the impromptu traffic officials for their work.

Eduardo Viana, a chef at Turf Lounge, brought Mr. Carayiannis a chicken sauté with ginger mustard, while he worked the intersection. Mr. Carayiannis chowed down, to cheers from bystanders.

"Go see the chef," he yelled to the crowd.


Enough with the paranoia! Trash your mobile phone and behave like a social animal, dammit!
 
 
Cherry Bomb
10:31 / 15.08.03
I'm sorry, I just have to say, YAY TORONTO!
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
11:11 / 15.08.03
OK, before I say this, I'd just like to point out that I'm NOT dissing Americans here, okay? Just that this could have been better worded...

the late edition of the UK Daily Telegraph had a big picture of Brooklyn Bridge, jampacked with people. The caption was very unfortunately worded. Fearing a terrorist attack, thousands of New Yorkers crowded onto Brooklyn Bridge

Sorry. HAD to share that. Glad y'all seem to be ok. If it's any consolation, apparently the UK's gonna suffer severe powerdowns this winter... for economic reasons. How shit is that?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
11:14 / 15.08.03
Oh, and that IS a wonderful story. I particularly like the reporting Eduardo Viana, a chef at Turf Lounge, brought Mr. Carayiannis a chicken sauté with ginger mustard .

Hail to the chef!

Fuck, we have NO traffic problems where I live (London) and some bastard already tried to run me down once this morning!!!

Can't Canada at least attempt to rule the world? Gotta be worth a try, right?
 
 
Mazarine
11:37 / 15.08.03
From everything I saw/heard, things were pretty calm, all in all. Gas stations were pretty packed, and major intersections were a little touch and go, but all in all, it wasn't too bad (at least, outside of a subway or an elevator). According to CNN.com, there were only four burglaries over night in NYC.

As for the Brooklyn Bridge thing, they might've just been walking home.

Apparently George W. Bush's big contribution was "The American power grid needs to be modernized," and urging that the power be turned back on quickly. Which isn't suprising, I guess, considering the Texas grid is separate from the Eastern and Western grids.
 
 
Ethan Hawke
11:40 / 15.08.03
I walked home over the Brooklyn Bridge, and everyone was very calm. Actually, check that, some drivers were downright rude to pedestrians, which made me think that no one thought it was a terrorist attack, because in that case instead of being rude they'd be scared shitless and helping. It was actually kind of fun, though I'd hate to have been stuck in a subway (that sucks, lolita!) or an elevator.

As of quarter of 9, EST, some parts of Brooklyn and Queens still do not have power. I've got no TV, but I've got DSL. Our power in Park Slope came back on at 4:30 am, making the blackout for me just over 12 hours.
 
 
Linus Dunce
12:37 / 15.08.03
A journo friend of mine had to drive to the next state to work in an office with power so that the paper could keep their every-day-for-200-years record. Last I heard, she'd been driving and working for 19 hours solid.

Mr Stoat -- tell us more about the UK powerdowns. Are they going to be outages or brown-outs? Where did you hear this?
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
13:15 / 15.08.03
That guy in the pink shirt in Toronto who just started directing traffic, wonder if he got his orders over the Global Frequency?
 
 
Lionheart
13:23 / 15.08.03
First of all, the Brooklyn bridge was crowded because there was no way to get to Brooklyn from Manhattan other than walking. The trains weren't running (obviously cause they're powered by electricity), cars weren't moving cause of heavy traffic, and busses weren't allowed onto the bridge due to the fact that if anyone of the busses broke down on the bridge it'll cause a major problem with traffic. So you had to walk...

I'll cross post what I posted in the Gathering:

You bastards! None of you showed up!

...

I'm kidding. Actually when I stepped off the ferry (probably around 4:15pm) I didn't notice anything weird going on. The one intersection I had to walk through to get to the train was fucked up. But I didn't pay much attention to it cause it always has something wrong with it. So I walked on. There seemed to be a bit more people out than usual but I thought that they were just looking at some guy standing on the edge of a building's roof. So I kept walking. Then I got to the train station (Bowling Green station on the 4/5 line) and the lights were out and MTA workers were telling us that the station was closed. I asked if the Wall Street station was operating and some guy told me that he had just come from there and that it too was closed. I thanked him and started climbing the stairs out of the station telling people that the station is closed and that there's probably a blackout in the New York business district. I started walking north and started talking with some lady who told me that her cell phone was on the fritz and that before the phone died her husband told her that the power was out on 59th street (where the woman's husband works) as well as in Long Island and Westchester. I thanked her and told her to use a payphone due to the fact that phone systems run off separate power grids. I kept walking up north, running every once in a while past the crowds. Everytime I passed a radio I slowed down and listened. That's how I found out the extent on the power outage.

I arrived at alt.coffee (137 Avenue A) at exactly 5pm. I had a full 2 liter bottle of Mountain Dew in my bag, still cold, and I bought an iced coffee for 2 bucks. The doors and windows were open so there was enough light and enough air flow to keep the place quite cool. I took out my Invisibles trade paper back and started reading it. I realized that most likely none of you would show up but decided to stay there anyway just in case. I'm hoping that none of you got stuck in the subways because of this meet.

I got home (in Staten Island) at 10pm. It took me 2 hours to get home and I'm glad that I always carry a flashlight with me. Hope you all had fun. What's the new plan?


*******

There was almost no looting. I just heard on the radio that 20 people broke into a shoe store in Brooklyn. There was also a break-in reported in a cell phone store but that's about it.

Hope everybody's alright.
 
 
moriarty
13:57 / 15.08.03
The BBC has reported that looting has begun in at least four parts of Ottawa!

Those in affected areas (who I realize likely can't read this at the moment unless they're on a lap-top wi-fi connection), please check in when ya can...


Um, I'm ok! You wouldn't happen to have a link to this, would you? It was a very peaceful night in my neighbourhood. I live in the Four Holes, the worst part of Ottawa, and I guess nobody would start anything around this area because no one has anything worth stealing.

Though one guy across the way did yell at a passerby, "Hey, you still owe me $100, asshole. If I don't get it in ten minutes, I'm going to hunt you down. I don't have TV or tunes, so you're going to be my entertainment for the night..."
 
 
PatrickMM
14:05 / 15.08.03
I'm in Westchester, and our power was out until at least midnight, and turned on at some point overnight. For one night, it was actually pretty fun, bringing out the candles and flashlights, and walking around the streets with absolutely no light on. And, it was incredible to actually see the stars instead of the usual orangeish glow.
 
 
cusm
15:00 / 15.08.03
Meanwhile, Megatron wheels a cart laiden with full energon cubes deep into his secret lair beneath the falls...
 
 
Helmschmied
15:40 / 15.08.03
I'm about 45 minutes south of Toronto. I think the power came on at about 2 or 3 am. My one brother in Toronto still doesn't have power (though Baz does).

As soon as the power went out I rushed to the beer store to stock up....CLOSED DUE TO OUTAGE....SHIT. No booze was available yesterday. The bars all closed even.

Interestingly....everything seemed to catch fire when the power went out. The steel plant near me burst into flames when the ventilation systems died, and also an oil refinery near here caught fire.
 
 
Not Here Still
16:13 / 15.08.03
As far as I can work out, this is a domino effect caused by one power station going down, and more demand being plaecd on the others - which then also go down, and so on.

A couple of reports I have heard have linked it to the number of air conditioning units being switched on, due to the hot weather.

Wonder if that's got anything to do with global warming? Hmmmm. What would help deal with problems caused by global warming?

[looks to the east]
 
 
Professor Silly
16:17 / 15.08.03
I think that right now, while the general public is focused on the issue of power grids, is the best time to push an actual solution. Here's a link to Bucky's Global Energy Network Institute. If enough of us pass the information on, perhaps we can see some actual significant change happen in the world....
 
  

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